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  • bholloway

    Here’s our story on the new look at FanDuel. Dan will be talking with Nigel Eccles on today’s Fantasy Fix, and should have more details available for us then.

    Cliff’s notes version:

    - the new “Friends Mode” will launch later this month. It sounds like a blend of season-long and DFS, allowing users to play against a set of leaguemates in DFS contests in each week of the NFL season.

    - NFL contests for Week 1 are up. Kickers are staying and prizepools are unsurprisingly down quite a bit from last year’s Week 1. We saw pools shrink quite a bit during the 2015 season, but there was some debate over whether that was due to a contracting player pool or just part of the seasonal rhythm of DFS.

    - Kickers are staying at FanDuel.

    - The lobby looks a bit different with a new logo and color scheme, but the lobby functions pretty much the same as ever (at least as far as I’ve noticed so far).

  • SouthernShield

    I found the 2 different payout structures for the $2 NFL contests to be an interesting experiment. One pays $30K to first with a top heavy payout while the other pays $10K to first with a much flatter payout.

  • Lathum

    At first glance it looks like they are spreading out the prize pools and not making them so top heavy creating more pay outs. I am assuming this is to cater to the casual player who just wants to maintain a bankroll.

  • thedude404

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    @SouthernShield said...

    I found the 2 different payout structures for the $2 NFL contests to be an interesting experiment. One pays $30K to first with a top heavy payout while the other pays $10K to first with a much flatter payout.

    After what five years they are still “experimenting” with payouts? Lol.

  • thedude404

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    Of course the top heavy payout is filling faster. At least we know the fish supply is healthy.

  • jr1886

    • 2017 FanDuel WFBBC Finalist

    Fanduel is so timid. This is more proof why a merger would be bad for this industry. We need Draftkings to push Fanduel.

  • SouthernShield

    @jr1886 said...

    Fanduel is so timid. This is more proof why a merger would be bad for this industry. We need Draftkings to push Fanduel.

    The industry needs to be timid until all the regulation sorts itself out. Once it’s legal everywhere it’s going to be legal, that is the time to be bold.

  • Lathum

    @jr1886 said...

    Fanduel is so timid. This is more proof why a merger would be bad for this industry. We need Draftkings to push Fanduel.

    I would be curious to hear you elaborate on why you feel they are timid.

  • scsa1998

    I was really hoping that I will actually accomplish some work today at work but no starting to build lineups

  • tristanwolf

    color scheme is kind of annoying. a darker blue/ contrast would have looked much nicer

  • awilson45

    @jr1886 said...

    Fanduel is so timid. This is more proof why a merger would be bad for this industry. We need Draftkings to push Fanduel.

    You mean like $20 mil on ads per week kind of pushing?

  • jr1886

    • 2017 FanDuel WFBBC Finalist

    @Lathum said...

    I would be curious to hear you elaborate on why you feel they are timid.

    200K first prize to open the season is really timid. They are very risk adverse, and that’s why I like having Draftkings as another force to push them to take risk and innovate.

  • thedude404

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    @jr1886 said...

    200K first prize to open the season is really timid. They are very risk adverse, and that’s why I like having Draftkings as another force to push them to take risk and innovate.

    as being an average football dfs’er i’d personally be more concerned with the the payout structure for the rest of the field vs worrying about the top prize that i have a 1 in 92,485 shot at winning. How many lifetimes would i need to actually have a shot at winning this?

  • jr1886

    • 2017 FanDuel WFBBC Finalist

    @thedude404 said...

    as being an average football dfs’er i’d personally be more concerned with the the payout structure for the rest of the field vs worrying about the top prize that i have a 1 in 92,485 shot at winning. How many lifetimes would i need to actually have a shot at winning this?

    Well that’s true, but I think they should have raised the entry fee in order to have a better payout. Unless you are top 10, you make nothing in this contest.

  • TheRyanFlaherty

    The “Welcome to the new FanDuel” link caught me off guard this morning.
    I was both excited and worried as I started to read through,but then it turns out it’s just essentially framing and putting in a positive light things that already exist.

    Since I use, and generally enjoy the site, the fact that there isn’t much anything “new” isn’t that disappointing.
    Overall, it’s likely to be a positive, because it will appeal to new players and the uninformed.
    If I was someone that was considering Daily Fantasy, but I was unsure due to the negative public narrative…If I visited both sites, and saw what amounts to The FD Mission Statement on their front page, I’d feel good about depositing and depositing on their site…Which I assume is the goal of all this.
    I’m happy FD is going out of their way to inform new players and dispel some myths, which hopefully will keep the player base growing.

  • thedude404

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    @jr1886 said...

    Well that’s true, but I think they should have raised the entry fee in order to have a better payout. Unless you are top 10, you make nothing in this contest.

    there will be higher dollar entry contests rest assured. Twenty five dollars really is the sweet spot for these massive contests. you go too much higher and people start to question if its worth it. I actually laughed out loud as i finished typing that.

  • thedude404

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    i find the blue color scheme calming. also, i have to commend fanduel for not sending out “you’re a winner” emails like draftkings does when in fact i’m usually a massive loser.

  • jsw3ent

    @thedude404 said...

    Of course the top heavy payout is filling faster. At least we know the fish supply is healthy.

    That is because FD jumped the shark———-the top heavy payout is filling faster because the reason people play fantasy sports is that chance to win enough $$$$$money$$$$$ to change way of life . First 1st place should mean something—-it should be enough to make a difference. I disagree with FD for the reason people play—- it is not for the reasons they listed———it is for the chance to win BIG MONEY. That is what drew them to the site in the first place BIG MONEY.

  • SouthernShield

    @jsw3ent said...

    That is because FD jumped the shark———-the top heavy payout is filling faster because the reason people play fantasy sports is that chance to win enough $$$$$money$$$$$ to change way of life . First 1st place should mean something—-it should be enough to make a difference. I disagree with FD for the reason people play—- it is not for the reasons they listed———it is for the chance to win BIG MONEY. That is what drew them to the site in the first place BIG MONEY.

    HUGE 1st place prizes and nothing for the rest is not a sustainable business plan.

    I play to be profitable and that’s much more realistic with flatter payout structures.

  • tonytone1908

    @jsw3ent said...

    That is because FD jumped the shark———-the top heavy payout is filling faster because the reason people play fantasy sports is that chance to win enough $$$$$money$$$$$ to change way of life . First 1st place should mean something—-it should be enough to make a difference. I disagree with FD for the reason people play—- it is not for the reasons they listed———it is for the chance to win BIG MONEY. That is what drew them to the site in the first place BIG MONEY.

    As a guy who seemed to straddle the cash line and usually finish just below it, I like the bigger cutoff line. But I think, why not hedge by entering your LU’s in both? If your LU isn’t good enough for 30k hopefully you get your money back for both entries in the other one.

  • Lathum

    @jr1886 said...

    200K first prize to open the season is really timid. They are very risk adverse, and that’s why I like having Draftkings as another force to push them to take risk and innovate.

    They really can’t raise the entry fee, like dude said, $25 is really the perfect spot, anything more and your average guy has a hard time justifying it. Hell, I play a lot and am fortunate to be very financially secure, and I don’t want to pay more than that.

    As for the prize pool I think it is important to remember this is entertainment for most people and they want bang for their buck. Week one we are going to see an influx of new players and the goal is to keep them around. If they spread out the prize pools and pay out more on the back end it means more people can come back week two and play. Even if those people bust week two they will be more willing to reload since they at least know they can cash. If a guy can play 2-3 weeks off their deposit it is much easier to justify reloading.

    The worst thing for the industry is for new players to think they have zero chance of winning, because they will then deposit once and never come back because they will feel cheated. I think FD is making some great efforts to ensure this doesn’t happen for the sustainability of the game. Without a steady stream of new players or people willing to reload the industry becomes a bunch of grinders trading money while paying off the rake.

  • xdan3220

    After some of the craziness in the other threads about TOS and just the general state of DFS I was very intrigued by this new branding by FD and figured I’d share my thoughts (with the caveat that I play DK for baseball more than FD so some of this may already have been in place I just haven’t been on enough lately to notice):

    1) GPP options, first thing I noticed is that when it comes to GPP’s it seems like they are giving us some real options as to the prize structures we want. The squeeze tonight, very flat, only 5k for 1st with 140k prize pool, 25% of entries win. The rally only 19% cash and 10k top prize on 60k prize pool.

    2) Like the entry mode feature makes that much easier

    3) The “Bill of Rights” is kind of a nice selling point to potential new players to DFS, that would make me feel a little better about getting into it if I were new.

    4) BUT, after debating some of these TOS issues related to the Milly Makers on DK lately, FD’s TOS may be even more lax in terms of outlining what constitutes illegal play and specifically I didn’t see any mention of collusion/syndication in there which may be a problem.

  • DailyLoser

    Want to hear more about this friends mode

  • theoddsmaker

    DO THEY FINALLY HAVE AN OWNERSHIP % PAGE???

  • jdtrey

    @jsw3ent said...

    That is because FD jumped the shark———-the top heavy payout is filling faster because the reason people play fantasy sports is that chance to win enough $$$$$money$$$$$ to change way of life . First 1st place should mean something—-it should be enough to make a difference. I disagree with FD for the reason people play—- it is not for the reasons they listed———it is for the chance to win BIG MONEY. That is what drew them to the site in the first place BIG MONEY.

    Only new or losing players are usually overly concerned with having a huge first place prize. I think the majority of profitable or break even players are actually liking the flatter structures across the board.

  • ElSlappo

    Kicker remains – lame

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