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  • drewcrawford03

    • 2019 FanDuel FantaSea Finalist

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    https://twitter.com/FanDuel/status/1025067080549326849?s=19

  • escot4

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    • 2016 DraftKings FFWC Champion

    Also, pretty epic twitter exchange between FanDuel and DraftKings there… very entertaining, and refreshing to see them trying to outdo each other again instead of just trying to hang on through a bunch of legal mess. Should be a fun season!

  • drewcrawford03

    • 2019 FanDuel FantaSea Finalist

    • 256

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    • 2018 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    Wow, I thought this would be a hot topic issue all day…Nothing guys???

  • scott33

  • gaelicgirl

    So is there any difference between FD and DK now?

  • TnRiddles

    • Blogger of the Month

    @gaelicgirl said...

    So is there any difference between FD and DK now?

    No there isnt and that leaves me with ZERO reasons to play FD for NFL anymore.

  • kbarnhill7523

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    • 2018 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

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      2017 FanDuel WFBBC Finalist

    @gaelicgirl said...

    So is there any difference between FD and DK now?

    yeah FD doesn’t have the goofy bonus points

  • sochoice

    • 2017 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    • 2017 FanDuel WFFC Champion

    Big mistake by FD. Removes the differentiation between the sites for NFL. So people who favor DK will play DK only now.

  • bucherpsu08

    PPR (DK) vs .5PPR (FD)

    That’s still a fairly big difference.

  • bigez952

    @sochoice said...

    Big mistake by FD. Removes the differentiation between the sites for NFL. So people who favor DK will play DK only now.

    This assumes that people who favor DK were only playing FD as well so they could have the opportunity to select a kicker. I can’t imagine that would be a large % of people. Pricing and scoring is still different between the sites so people that usually play both sites probably will continue to do so.

  • TnRiddles

    • Blogger of the Month

    @sochoice said...

    Big mistake by FD. Removes the differentiation between the sites for NFL. So people who favor DK will play DK only now.

    you are correct sir

  • TnRiddles

    • Blogger of the Month

    @bigez952 said...

    This assumes that people who favor DK were only playing FD as well so they could have the opportunity to select a kicker. I can’t imagine that would be a large % of people. Pricing and scoring is still different between the sites so people that usually play both sites probably will continue to do so.

    I played both sites because they were unique to one another. Now , I have no real reasons to play FD.

  • hendog

    • 2017 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    Anyone have theories what the other big announcement is? Referenced at the end of this video: https://twitter.com/dan_back/status/1025077939682111488

  • gaelicgirl

    @TnRiddles said...

    I played both sites because they were unique to one another. Now , I have no real reasons to play FD.

    I only played FD because I didn’t want a flex spot. Maybe I’m the only one in the DFS universe who doesn’t like flex spots, but that seems unlikely. At any rate, it leaves me with no real reasons to prefer FD now.

  • TnRiddles

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    @gaelicgirl said...

    I only played FD because I didn’t want a flex spot. Maybe I’m the only one in the DFS universe who doesn’t like flex spots, but that seems unlikely. At any rate, it leaves me with no real reasons to prefer FD now.

    I totally agree with you on the flex spot. I dont think its needed in any sport

  • gaelicgirl

    @bucherpsu08 said...

    PPR (DK) vs .5PPR (FD)

    That’s still a fairly big difference.

    Since DK LUs aren’t competing with FD LUs, this seems like a wash, no?

  • bigez952

    @TnRiddles said...

    I played both sites because they were unique to one another. Now , I have no real reasons to play FD.

    They still are unique as every week the pricing will be drastically different so you would be targeting different guys on each site. Also with DK being a full PPR and FD being a half point PPR without bonuses some guys are valued more on one site vs. the other.

    So unless you really loved picking a kicker then by all means stop playing FD in protest so they add them back.

  • TnRiddles

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    @bigez952 said...

    They still are unique as every week the pricing will be drastically different so you would be targeting different guys on each site. Also with DK being a full PPR and FD being a half point PPR without bonuses some guys are valued more on one site vs. the other.

    So unless you really loved picking a kicker then by all means stop playing FD in protest so they add them back.

    I disagree that they are unique…and this isnt about the kicker at all.

  • bigez952

    @TnRiddles said...

    I totally agree with you on the flex spot. I dont think its needed in any sport

    The flex spot drastically reduces duplicate lineups by creating an exponential amount more of lineup possible combinations. For DFS which host massive 700,000+ entry contests in my opinion it is needed so you can have shot to build a unique lineup.

  • TnRiddles

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    @bigez952 said...

    The flex spot drastically reduces duplicate lineups by creating an exponential amount more of lineup possible combinations. For DFS which host massive 700,000+ entry contests in my opinion it is needed so you can have shot to build a unique lineup.

    It isnt hard to make a unique lineup anyway if you put any effort into it. And tbh , the flex wouldnt bother me as much if FD were capable of pricing players correctly instead of letting you fit everyone

  • Dunzor

    @bigez952 said...

    This assumes that people who favor DK were only playing FD as well so they could have the opportunity to select a kicker. I can’t imagine that would be a large % of people. Pricing and scoring is still different between the sites so people that usually play both sites probably will continue to do so.

    Honestly for me it was less about the kicker than the need to now pick a flex. I felt I had a pretty solid edge at identifying the ideal kickers to play over the public, but having to fill an entirely open flex spot makes it much more of a crapshoot for me. I know some people will like the change, but one of the big reasons I liked playing FD over DK was not having to fill a flex slot and using my edge on kicker selection

  • bigez952

    @TnRiddles said...

    I disagree that they are unique…and this isnt about the kicker at all.

    Then just play Draftkings and it is as simple as that. I don’t play Fanduel at all myself so I really don’t care about this change but I know that their pricing is always so much different that even if the roster construction is exactly the same the teams you build won’t be.

    The only change they made was the kicker so if you stop playing because of this change it kinda is about the kicker. I am sure they will lose some players who loved playing kickers but my guess is that loss will be minimal to be at a point where it won’t be coming back.

  • Stewburtx8

    • 2012 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @gaelicgirl said...

    Since DK LUs aren’t competing with FD LUs, this seems like a wash, no?

    Player valuation each week can be very different with PPR vs 0.5 PPR. I would think the flex spot on Fanduel is much more likely to be used on a RB while the flex spot on DK much more likely used on a WR.

    Also, within positions, some guys are much better in PPR than 0.5 PPR, and vice versa. Boom or bust WR’s carry more value on Fanduel while possession receivers carry more value on DK. Same goes for early down/goalline backs versus 3rd down/pass catching backs.

    Would think this would affect pricing across sites too which will lead you to very different roster construction/lineups.

  • bigez952

    @Dunzor said...

    Honestly for me it was less about the kicker than the need to now pick a flex. I felt I had a pretty solid edge at identifying the ideal kickers to play over the public, but having to fill an entirely open flex spot makes it much more of a crapshoot for me. I know some people will like the change, but one of the big reasons I liked playing FD over DK was not having to fill a flex slot and using my edge on kicker selection

    I believe you can still paly kickers in your flex spot so you can keep your edge if your good at picking out the guy who scores 30 points every week.

  • TnRiddles

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    @bigez952 said...

    Then just play Draftkings and it is as simple as that. I don’t play Fanduel at all myself so I really don’t care about this change but I know that their pricing is always so much different that even if the roster construction is exactly the same the teams you build won’t be.

    The only change they made was the kicker so if you stop playing because of this change it kinda is about the kicker. I am sure they will lose some players who loved playing kickers but my guess is that loss will be minimal to be at a point where it won’t be coming back.

    Like I said before this basically has nothing to do with the kicker. For me , its a continued trend of FD messing with a product that didnt need fixing. IMO , they ruined MLB and now NFL isnt as attractive to me anymore. I will simply just play at DK now. I am going to be in the minority with this opinion and I am ok with it

  • gaelicgirl

    @bigez952 said...

    The flex spot drastically reduces duplicate lineups by creating an exponential amount more of lineup possible combinations. For DFS which host massive 700,000+ entry contests in my opinion it is needed so you can have shot to build a unique lineup.

    This sounds true and is a good point if you like the massive contests. But for those who prefer single-entry contests and smaller player pools for a more even playing field, it seems like a flex spot will be just another advantage for pros over less skilled casual players.

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