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  • SmartWater

    Marketing and Social Media Manager

    Hey guys,

    With the FanDuel Single Entry Series recently announced, I was thinking about what the best way to approach it would be.

    Here are some of the topics/questions that came to mind:

    1. Should we approach it like a normal single entry tournament each day and not “over-think” it?
    2. Should we treat it like a week long slate?
    3. Is focusing on floor more important because it is your top 4 lineups?
    4. If you were leading the competition one week with a few GPPs left, would/should your strategy change?

    There is TONS of cool game theory discussion that we can have and I wanted to get your thoughts on some of these questions.

    Also if you have any of your own, POST THEM!

  • CruzinToVictory

    RG Product Coordinator

    • Blogger of the Month

    It seems to me like focusing on your floor too much shouldn’t ever really be a strategy in a contest like this. But the nature of the “only include your best 4 scores” does add a bit of strategy on a slate by slate basis. The further along in the week you get, the more risky you have to play if you’re not on the top. It’s so fluid based on where you are on the leaderboard, but it seems like it’s best to treat it like a normal GPP early in the week, and practically a qualifier in the later parts of the week if you’re too far behind.

    In general you need to have 4 pretty high scores out of the 9 or so slates, so playing even higher than normal variance lineups seems like the way to go. Dropping the lower scores makes it even more appealing to go the all or nothing approach, because you won’t be punished as much for a dead lineup if you can counteract it with 4 stud lineups.

    Now, if I was ahead with just a few GPPs to go, I’d probably just play it like a normal GPP. If I have another big score, awesome. If not, I put myself in a decent spot already.

  • ChrisGimino

    • 2015 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    • 2016 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    I will play this contest as I would any other single entry GPP. I don’t currently see merit to strategizing for the long term, and will set my lineups aggressively each night as if it is the only tournament. Perhaps somebody can provide a reason why this is bad game theory, but to me playing cautiously is a losing proposition. I won’t even consider floor for one second when I have 24,000 opponents.

    As it relates to holding a lead… I wouldn’t change my strategy even in this case. I can picture a single strong finish from anyone remotely close as being able to knock me out. I need to be trying to CLOSE OUT and capture another high finish in order to seal the deal.

  • Mikie5454

    K.I.S.S.

    Keep It Simple Stupid

    Don’t over think it or you will find yourself wondering what went wrong.

  • BennyRamirez

    Does the payout structure change any approach, though? Tonight’s $21k prize pool is after $3,277 in rake (13.5%) and only pays $1k to 1st (4.76%). I don’t know about you all, but I did a triple take after seeing that. Still playing because it is a dollar and glory, but the prize is glory with disregard for ROI. Not gonna overthink things, because I don’t know how I would, but this is a variable from the standard GPP.

    By comparison, the $10 Single Entry Ace has a $6k pool after a $930 rake (same ), but $750 to 1st (12.5). The larger pools pay smaller percentages, but the $150k Squeeze still pays 10% to 1st with double the entries as tonight’s $1 Series GPP and the $1 $20k Sac Fly has a higher rake (~15%) and still pays the standard 10% ($2k) to 1st.

  • emac

    This format lends itself for going big because it a $1 entry fee and with so many participants in the field there are going to be some very high scores and likely we will need to have our four counting scores in the top 1-2% of their respective days in order to qualify for the added prizes.

    When we get to Week 2 where the “Pickoff” is the featured contest at the $25 price point, the strategy will start to diverge with more bankroll conscious gamers who are focused on the overall Nashville prize may not be nearly as aggressive with their strategy and with Week 4 featuring the “Blast” at a $50 price point, there will likely be less risk taking by the bulk of the players. Keep in mind there is absolutely nothing wrong with this and you are still putting in your “best” lineup against no more than one from each of the other participants and second, we should see these be the largest single entry MLB tournaments at each price point in the history of DFS. THAT is the immediate thing most people should be focused on in my humble opinion.

    If I were on the verge of winning, I would keep being aggressive because of the volatility of MLB scores, a 250+ would be golden and to be in contention it is going to take at least four of those each week.

    EMac

  • RotoCoach

    I think there are a variety of interesting strategies to consider here, and I’ll be curious to see how folks who have a few top scores under their belt start approaching it later in the week. I think to Chris’s and Emac’s points there’s a lot of merit to firing away every night as if this is an all or nothing proposition.

    But…it’s going to get interesting over these closing weekends once you aready know where all the other scores are falling out across the leaderboard from the week. Depending on how the weeks go, it’s not inconceivable that someone could be looking at 3 very high scores and a bunch of very dead lineups. If the math is telling you on Sunday that the next closest player or players need 275+ to catch you if you can put up 180-200, you gotta be thinking about retreating to a little safety, no? I mean it’s sort of like being up six shots on Sunday going into the back nine-par should be good enough to win.

    I feel like those willing to adjust their strategy over the course of the next month are going to find success in this thing…says the guy with two days worth of dead lineups :-)

  • Houseman

    Doubt any of these are really “single entry” games. More likely a group of the gamblers that have taken over fantasy sports, and who work together using a number of names, different addresses, different accounts. They work together creating a number of same lineups and different lineups, similar lineups, etc. I caught this happening on DraftDay where of THE big money winners in these games had four entries, all with different names but all four lineups were identical except for one variation.

  • ailk

    @Houseman said...

    Doubt any of these are really “single entry” games. More likely a group of the gamblers that have taken over fantasy sports, and who work together using a number of names, different addresses, different accounts. They work together creating a number of same lineups and different lineups, similar lineups, etc. I caught this happening on DraftDay where of THE big money winners in these games had four entries, all with different names but all four lineups were identical except for one variation.

    Yup, check out the early today, top 20 all have the same lineup.

  • tvsfrink

    I’m in 12th place with one day to go. I can assure you I’m not a professional gambler.

    With that said, I have no idea how to attack these last two slates. I know I need to swing for the fences, but that’s not my style…

  • edro990

    @ailk said...

    Yup, check out the early today, top 20 all have the same lineup.

    Hard to imagine that many people getting together to use the same lineup to win a $1 GPP. What is more likely the case is they all used an optimal lineup posted by one of the sites. Don’t worry, we’ll know soon enough as whoever posted or sold it will be tooting their horn ad nauseam. Remember the “Chisen-call”? Lol. Anyway, I don’t think it’s a big deal, if it were this would occur much more often. With the amount of lineups being sold and posted it’s inevitably going to happen now and then.

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