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  • cccalloway

    Fanduel upping the game to $2.5M total pool with $500k now to first place. This would be a good week to strike gold I guess!

  • danliebl

    been playing a single entry in this since week 1. now it is over 100K entries and 500K for first… that is crazy.

    I will take it for the team and win and pay the taxes on it, no need for anyone else to try.

  • britdevine

    • 2014 StarStreet MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    Switched from the DK million to FD last week due to prize structure, and now its very DKish with how top heavy it is….please think about spreading it out more next week.

    $250k to first would be perfect this week, instead you took the extra 250k in the prizepool this week and gave it to 1st, and then actually took another 50k out of the remaining prizepool and gave that to first.

    Would love to see this with the old payout structure while you keep growing it.

  • easternmh

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    @britdevine said...

    Switched from the DK million to FD last week due to prize structure, and now its very DKish with how top heavy it is….please think about spreading it out more next week.

    $250k to first would be perfect this week, instead you took the extra 250k in the prizepool this week and gave it to 1st, and then actually took another 50k out of the remaining prizepool and gave that to first.

    Would love to see this with the old payout structure while you keep growing it.

    Agreed

  • db730

    RotoGrinders Media Director

    • 777

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    • 2016 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

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    I agree with Brit on this. Not sure why they felt it necessary to tinker with something that has show high demand as is.

  • myb821

    I agree not a fan of the change at all

  • cccalloway

    Meh. Don’t agree with this here. Look at the payout structure as a whole. A top prize of 20% of total prize pool is not too top heavy to me. It’s still nowhere near as top heavy as DK.

    If you finish right at 1% in FD, you would win 6.5x your buyin compared to about 3.75x buyin on DK. Structure is still very favorable to DK structure with more upside. I think it’s a very good change overall actually. I would rather them get rid of paying 20% of the field too but I know that isn’t favorable either. Think 15% of field is a better number, lower payout on min cashes and increase top 10. Yes, more like a poker payout.

    The bigger issue is they don’t need such a discrepency b/w 1st and 2nd. Think second should be more in the $200k range but again that can probably only be done by lowering total payouts.

  • rotokevin

    2014 RG Bowling Co-Champion, CPA & DFS Tax Guru

    • 2014 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    Let’s not compare the FD contest to DK in terms of top-heavy payouts. This is 20% to first. DK is 45%. They are still two entirely different animals…and both F*CKING AMAZING, I might add.

  • tprokopenko

    Definitely not a fan of the updated prize structure. You will actually make less money next week finishing in 1000th or 2000th than you would have this week, despite the increased entries. I stopped playing NFL completely on DK because of their horrendous prize structure in the Millionaire Maker, so I hope that FD isn’t going down that road with making 1st place more top heavy.

  • winsome

    Obviously FD has been watching DK’s success in the Milly but also heard all the complaints about being too top heavy and decided that they could push the envelope and STILL have the “better” overall product.

  • Hallison

    DK did this to attract new players. They were not concerned about the grinders or even 1 million leaving the economy every week. Their goal to get market share at any cost. I am surprised FD would just give the extra $$ to 1st place. This is bad for us. Please answer FD.

  • otcprofits

    I think it sucks, to me the more spread out the better … keeps everyone coming back

  • iconfantasyJoe

    I am with Brit on this too.

    Hate that they decided to start tinkering with what was a great payout structure, and one that was obviously working.

    I don’t even get it to be honest. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

  • otcprofits

    Yeah im pretty sure they did it because DK, but I really beleive casual players will leave after few weeks of losing… I cant see casual players throwing $50-$100 weekly for long with no return

  • otcprofits

    Like that its up to $2.5 million total but need old structure, spread that extra over top 50

  • waiverwire

    Thanks for the feedback. We’ll see how it goes this week. We realize lots of people liked the old format but tried this out as we were getting requests for a bigger first place prize.

  • T0mmyJ0hnZipper

    Don’t screw up Fanduel. A 250K binkage is fine. Spread the wealth around like a good Obola,err I mean obama socialist…..

  • absolutbronx

    • 2015 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    Totally agree, top prize should be 250K, 10th should be around 25k with top 3 all getting at least 100K. Make first 250k and add the other 250k to the top 10.

  • bestintheworld

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    @absolutbronx said...

    Totally agree, top prize should be 250K, 10th should be around 25k with top 3 all getting at least 100K. Make first 250k and add the other 250k to the top 10.

    this

  • Maynardj4193

    I’m confused by some of this. The payout for the $10 500k, seems pretty similar to the payouts for the 2.5 million, with the exception of the top prize.

    If you finish at % 4, you quadruple your money. Are yall saying it sucks for the others in the top 10? I’m just confused by how it’s too top heavy when taking $250,000 and spreading it over the 20,000 ppl getting paid, you all make $10 extra. Seems like the point of this tourney is to win big bucks isn’t it?

    If you are trying to eliminate variance, why not enter your lineups in $25 worth of $1 tourneys…sorry if I’m way off base.

  • iconfantasyJoe

    Yes, everyone wants to win 1st, but we all know that the odds are extremely long. Therefore as a mass collective we should want them to distribute the payouts more evenly across the whole prize structure.

    This tourney should be about longevity, slowly building up to a 1Mil top prize within a flatter payout structure that can be sustained over the long haul. When you top load it too much you have a situation like the MM where people who were enamored at first, but just stop playing because it isn’t profitable. We want the Sunday million to be a tourney that lasts forever, and there is already a massive top prize that was drawing in people. If they wanted to increase to 300K could have been just as effective.

    That could have satisfied their want for a more eye popping top prize, and then kept 200K into the meat of the prize pool, which is where most people end up landing. And its those people who you need to keep coming back.

  • Maynardj4193

    I still don’t get it…this tourney is all of the sudden not profitable because you make $10 less?

  • RikkiDee

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    I know I’m in the minority but I think all these GPPs gotten so big and hard to win that 1st place shouldn’t have to be the old standard 10% anymore.

    1st place historically was artificially bumped up because sites wanted an enticing 1st place prize but now that the prizepools have gotten so massive, they shouldn’t have to do that anymore.

    I mean Why not just make it $100k to 1st and give a bunch of people a shot at a big payday? Is 100k really not enough to get people excited?

    I realize DK’s ridiculous millionaire maker kind of proves otherwise, but its just so bad for everyone involved.

  • otcprofits

    @RikkiDee said...

    I know I’m in the minority but I think all these GPPs gotten so big and hard to win that 1st place shouldn’t have to be the old standard 10% anymore.

    1st place historically was artificially bumped up because sites wanted an enticing 1st place prize but now that the prizepools have gotten so massive, they shouldn’t have to do that anymore.

    I mean Why not just make it $100k to 1st and give a bunch of people a shot at a big payday? Is 100k really not enough to get people excited?

    I realize DK’s ridiculous millionaire maker kind of proves otherwise, but its just so bad for everyone involved.

    agree

  • Jup13

    Yeah, not a big fan of this either.

    I look at it like this: If I ever get mad for even a split second that I won 60k, something’s wrong. And I would be irate if I took down 3rd in this thing. Probably 2nd too, but there’s just something about that 6th figure that might soothe the pain more.

    I actually remember a top 10 player in a thread a month or so ago saying that topheavy payouts actually favor the more skilled players, and although I didn’t really bother responding because I was so late to the party, I guess I can address that here and just say that that’s absolutely incorrect for anyone who has that impression. I’m sure it honestly goes without saying, but you shouldn’t ever expect to win over a 100,000+ entry tournament. Ever.

    I’m all on the train that daily fantasy sports ARE a game of a skill, but where do we draw the line when it becomes luck because of how topheavy we are getting? I know we definitely aren’t there yet, and this isn’t that big of a deal currently, but if we don’t at least try to do something to scale this back around the industry, we might get to the point in a couple years where we are just entering a sweepstakes. Or buying a scratch off ticket.

  • tprokopenko

    I find it similar to a large multi table tournament poker. The better players are going to be more likely to have high finishes, and finish in the money consistently. But actually finishing in first place still requires a tremendous amount of luck.

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