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  • kaetorade

    • 2013 DraftStreet DSBBC Finalist

    Effective May 1st, 2016, Texas residents will no longer be allowed to play paid games. This is certainly a difficult pill to swallow. This was the email that I received:

    Dear Texas Fans:

    We have some important news to share regarding our contests for users in Texas. As you may know, fantasy sports was founded in Texas more than four decades ago. In 2009, FanDuel was formed at Austin’s SXSW Interactive Festival, paving the way for millions of sports fans to play fantasy in a whole new way. We are proud of the business we’ve built and our ability to innovate fantasy sports and create a new product that fans love.

    We believe FanDuel has always been legal in Texas and strongly disagree with the recent advisory opinion of the Attorney General, but understand that the laws surrounding fantasy sports require clarity. As such, we have worked with the Texas Attorney General to map out our plan to wind down our operations in Texas, suspending paid contests on May 1st. The Texas legislature will be in session in 2017 and we will work to pass legislation that protects fantasy sports and consumers so that we can bring our paid contests back to Texans as soon as possible.

    In the meantime:

    - Users will still be able to participate in free head to head challenges and leagues after May 1st.

    - As has always been the case, users in Texas can withdraw their funds at anytime. Users can also play FanDuel when visiting other states in which FanDuel continues to operate paid-contests.

    Please follow us at www.FantasySportsForAll.com and let your lawmakers know that you support fantasy sports. We have more than 20+ bills in state legislatures across the country that safeguard fantasy sports and provide consumer protections. It is our intent to work with the Texas legislature to pass a similar bill in 2017, when back in session. Your support will help ensure that all fantasy companies are able to continue to operate in Texas.

    Thank you for your support,

    FanDuel

  • smyoung17

    @badtouch Tried to send you a PM, but the link didn’t work (maybe because I’m new to the forum?). Anyway, I’m a journalist in Dallas interested in talking to you about Fanduel’s agreement with the AG’s office. Any chance you could make some time for me this afternoon? I can be reached at stephen.young(at)dallasobserver(dot)com. Thanks!

  • thehammer74

    @smyoung17 said...

    @badtouch Tried to send you a PM, but the link didn’t work (maybe because I’m new to the forum?). Anyway, I’m a journalist in Dallas interested in talking to you about Fanduel’s agreement with the AG’s office. Any chance you could make some time for me this afternoon? I can be reached at stephen.young(at)dallasobserver(dot)com. Thanks!

    Here’s some much more interesting and controversial news to report. Read all 61 pages. He lives in Texas.

    https://rotogrinders.com/threads/withdrawal-issues-on-fantasyhub-1167884?page=1

    Go to town on it.

  • rockinrileys

    What A joke it’s legal to smoke cigarettes that cause lung cancer but it’s not legal to play DFS . I thinking smoking is harmful not DFS these politicians are an absolute Joke !!!!

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @rockinrileys said...

    What A joke it’s legal to smoke cigarettes that cause lung cancer but it’s not legal to play DFS . I thinking smoking is harmful not DFS these politicians are an absolute Joke !!!!

    Common sense leaves the door once elected. And this is BOTH parties. But then again you have idiot voters who put them in office. The politicians since the 1980s on both sides always want to look tough on “Law and Order” or “Protecting the Little Guy”. While sometimes well intentioned it can go to politicians heads and guys like Schneiderman and Paxton think this is how they get their 15 minutes of fame.

  • thehammer74

    @PJGuin23 said...

    Common sense leaves the door once elected. And this is BOTH parties. But then again you have idiot voters who put them in office. The politicians since the 1980s on both sides always want to look tough on “Law and Order” or “Protecting the Little Guy”. While sometimes well intentioned it can go to politicians heads and guys like Schneiderman and Paxton think this is how they get their 15 minutes of fame.

    It’s easy to blame the voters for the elected officials (all the way up to the President), but when your available choices are a career politician or a different career politician, you aren’t left with much choice. That’s why Trump is creating such an uproar. Although there are many things with Trump you can disagree with whether you are on his side or not, I think it’s a good thing he is attempting to run for one main reason – it might open the door to America considering non-politicians in the future. I’d like to see more average Joes on the same ballots as the career politicians. As long as they are intelligent, have good morals, and display values that are consistent with what the American people want to see, I hope in the future we will see them on the same ballots as politicians that are lifelong liars and have a track record of being disingenuous at best. A person with an honest heart that is willing to learn the system is probably better than nominating and electing another snake in the grass.

  • ballabal

    @thehammer74 said...

    It’s easy to blame the voters for the elected officials (all the way up to the President), but when your available choices are a career politician or a different career politician, you aren’t left with much choice. That’s why Trump is creating such an uproar. Although there are many things with Trump you can disagree with whether you are on his side or not, I think it’s a good thing he is attempting to run for one main reason – it might open the door to America considering non-politicians in the future. I’d like to see more average Joes on the same ballots as the career politicians. As long as they are intelligent, have good morals, and display values that are consistent with what the American people want to see, I hope in the future we will see them on the same ballots as politicians that are lifelong liars and have a track record of being disingenuous at best. A person with an honest heart that is willing to learn the system is probably better than nominating and electing another snake in the grass.

    Unless they do something about campaign finance reform, only wealthy people can run for office. that would leave out the average Joe’s.

    Also the politicians know nothing of how DFS works. They probably have never tried it. Also, they know nothing about technology and computers. And here they are making decisions like Paxton did. I just wonder what will happen if he gets convicted of the crimes he was indicted for.

  • TPSC

    @PJGuin23 said...

    Common sense leaves the door once elected. And this is BOTH parties. But then again you have idiot voters who put them in office. The politicians since the 1980s on both sides always want to look tough on “Law and Order” or “Protecting the Little Guy”. While sometimes well intentioned it can go to politicians heads and guys like Schneiderman and Paxton think this is how they get their 15 minutes of fame.

    This is not an accurate depiction of Ken Paxton’s motivation.

    I live in Texas. I practice law. I’m a heavy DFS player. This has not received media coverage in the least. If I wasn’t on this board, I wouldn’t have heard of it.

    Ken Paxton is extremely well-known already in Texas because he’s aligned with the Ted Cruz/Greg Abbott/Dan Patrick line of Tea Party Republicans.

    I don’t know what his crusade is. But if it was about publicity, he’s done a terrible job of garnering it.

  • BobGrinder

    @TPSC said...

    This is not an accurate depiction of Ken Paxton’s motivation.

    I live in Texas. I practice law. I’m a heavy DFS player. This has not received media coverage in the least. If I wasn’t on this board, I wouldn’t have heard of it.

    Ken Paxton is extremely well-known already in Texas because he’s aligned with the Ted Cruz/Greg Abbott/Dan Patrick line of Tea Party Republicans.

    I don’t know what his crusade is. But if it was about publicity, he’s done a terrible job of garnering it.

    That’s because as in most cases, the AG was asked to look into the legality of DFS.

    http://kxan.com/2015/11/15/rise-in-daily-fantasy-sports-raises-gambling-concerns/

  • ballabal

    @BobGrinder said...

    That’s because as in most cases, the AG was asked to look into the legality of DFS.

    http://kxan.com/2015/11/15/rise-in-daily-fantasy-sports-raises-gambling-concerns/

    It looks like the state congressperson who asked the AG about this is not running for re-election. It looks like the conservative group Eagle Forum is involved with this. This the kind of group that wants to tell everyone else how to live. They say that “big Government” should get out of the way. However they think it is OK to get into people business concerning things like DFS, women’s heath issues, etc. To me that is “big government”. What I do in the privacy of my own home that doesn’t other people is none of their business.

  • Mattg45

    @thehammer74 said...

    I respect your opinion although I will have to disagree…and I will tell you what I think the difference is. In season long formats, you are paying a ONE-TIME fee upfront for the entire season (unless your league requires payments for waiver wire and trade transactions, etc), whereas DFS requires wagering money EVERY SINGLE DAY you play, which generally equates to an extremely higher volume of bets and sums of money over time.

    DFS has ruined my ex-brother in law’s life. First, he abandoned his friends to constantly research and create lineups while alienating his own wife and children (which he now admits to but wouldn’t for over a year). He got terminated from a career as an investment adviser for lack of production and breaking company policy because he was constantly on the computer working on DFS. He said he played every single day. When they blocked the computers by a program he said was called Websense, he found ways around it using proxy sites. He claimed his smartphone alone wasn’t enough and that he felt he needed a desktop to do everything he wanted. Subsequently, his wife left him and took his two children and he still has almost no relationship with them anymore. He is now divorced, broke, had to do a short sale on his home, and is two weeks away from his “meeting of creditors” in his bankruptcy journey. He was a fraternity brother jock who had always liked his beer since his college days, but now he is drunk every time we see him or talk to him on the phone and is always talking about how “well” he is doing now that he is divorced. He doesn’t want to go anywhere unless there is alcohol involved. It is strange how he thinks he is doing well when he lives at a poverty level and his own family and friends want nothing to do with him anymore. He couldn’t even stay sober long enough to make it through a damn week when he was fortunate enough to find another job as an investment adviser three months ago. Obviously, alcoholism is a huge problem in his life now. Alcoholism was not present at the time he was addicted to DFS, so we cannot blame that as the initiator of his wrecked life, but more of an after effect.

    His problems are not things that I’ve ever heard of with anyone that solely plays season long leagues. I know there are other people in similar situations even though they aren’t all this bad of course. He has played in season long leagues with no problems starting back when everyone played with only paper, pen, calculator, and the newspaper. I bet that anyone who would try to tell his family, friends, ex wife, children, or anyone else that knows him, that DFS isn’t gambling or is no different than playing season long leagues, will probably get looked at with anger, disgust, and perhaps even tears.

    Is it his own fault? Absolutely. But I cannot fathom any argument that would say he wasn’t gambling.

    I respect your opinion, watching someone you care about with an addiction of any kind is no laughing matter. But what bothers a lot of people including myself, is for every one person who is addicted to dfs (were it is affecting someone’s life, and their family and friends life in a negative way) there are thousands addicted to casinos, lottery, otb, ect. So for say Texas to make dfs illegal, label dfs as gambling, give the same reason over and over again that if dfs ruined one persons life it ruined too many peoples lives. While other forms of gambling remain legal is hypocrisy at its best.

  • Stevej2344

    Okay guys, just play on Draftkings or any of the other sites. Im personally sick of fanduel anyway for not having a late swap. I also believe FD will be allowed back as there is talk that legislation may alter Texas laws in 2017 which would no doubt favor DFS.

    Not a big deal. Texas is whack. Cant wait to finish school n get out of this hell hole. The nice weather was cool at first, but I personally can’t deal with a state where every single personal or legal decision feels clouded by religion and with the intent to control SOMEONE ELSE’S moral standards.

    And please, no one come at me with that proud Texan nonsense. It gets old.

    Good for Draftkings for having some balls though. Really made me happy to see them stand up to that criminal Paxton.

    Apologies if this comes off wrong, but MattG your brother in law’s story is tragic, but also very believable. I do pray he and others in his situation get help and recover, but I agree that one person does not reflect all DFS players and our levels of self control

  • northdallasforty

    @Stevej2344 said...

    Good for Draftkings for having some balls though. Really made me happy to see them stand up to that criminal Paxton.

    I am switching soon as well. I feel exactly as you do on this topic. Not really sure why FD is letting DK do all the dirty work for them. I think I read somewhere that the same happened in NY. FD let DK fight alone there too. I personally, would like to see both giants take on Texas. They are gonna need to!!

  • dallasmavsallday

    @cjhopkins07 said...

    Moderator Notice

    Hi everyone, i wanted to post and let you all know that i had to delete multiple posts in this thread relating to ways to circumvent regulations and play from restricted areas. Although i understand your frustrations, this is not the forum for such discussions.

    Setting aside personal feelings on the subject, and trust me when i say that as a Texas resident my personal feelings are particularly strong on this one, we must respect the regulations imposed, whether you view them as right or wrong. To discuss ways around these restrictions does more harm than good and we cannot have such conversations in the forums.

    Instead i urge you to continue sharing your DFS stories and commit your efforts to finding constructive methods of helping the cause to ultimately ensure the legal status for DFS in the State, and the country.

    Thank you,

    CJ

    You should delete anything posted from these armchair legal experts as well.

  • dallasmavsallday

    @rockinrileys said...

    What A joke it’s legal to smoke cigarettes that cause lung cancer but it’s not legal to play DFS . I thinking smoking is harmful not DFS these politicians are an absolute Joke !!!!

    This argument is so played out and tired. stop it.

  • Olhausen

    @dallasmavsallday said...

    This argument is so played out and tired. stop it.

    And why is that? It’s an absolute joke that things like cigarettes and alcohol are legal but Dfs is not. These things kill people and destroy families daily but hey since the government makes millions it’s cool. But my god we better not play Dfs cause that’s destroying life’s according to our law makers. The real reason though is because they aren’t making money off of Dfs and that’s why they are trying to take it away. So why don’t you stop it since you clearly have no clue what it is your talking about!

  • dallasmavsallday

    @Olhausen said...

    And why is that? It’s an absolute joke that things like cigarettes and alcohol are legal but Dfs is not. These things kill people and destroy families daily but hey since the government makes millions it’s cool. But my god we better not play Dfs cause that’s destroying life’s according to our law makers. The real reason though is because they aren’t making money off of Dfs and that’s why they are trying to take it away. So why don’t you stop it since you clearly have no clue what it is your talking about!

    well, because cigs and booze have been deemed legal and are regulated. dfs has not.

  • Olhausen

    @dallasmavsallday said...

    well, because cigs and booze have been deemed legal and are regulated. dfs has not.

    And you don’t see that it’s insane and that the argument should be a valid one?

  • ballabal

    States make much tax $$$ off of booze and cigarettes. It seems every time there is a budget issue, these taxes are raised. Due to this, stuff like beer/wine, etc is more expensive. I am surprised that states aren’t looking to tax DFS.
    What I get tired of especially in Texas is that there are people who constantly try to impose their ideological beliefs on everyone else. They don’t want us to drink, play DFS/Poker, have birth control, etc. All of these folks here complaining about DFS being made illegal need to get out and vote and contact our representatives. In Texas the governor won by about 53% of the vote – which was about 37% of the eligible voters. The Texas lottery commission was looking into DFS, but Gov Abbott is the one who stopped this. He is against what he sees as expanding gambling – which is what the far right wants. I have a feeling that even the legislature votes for DFS, he may veto it. also Texas governors many times veto bills after the legislative session is done and won’t be back in another 2 years. So I thing that DFS has a better chance in the courts in Texas.

  • stayready40

    @badtouch said...

    Pretty sucky. Looks like it’s time for me to find something else to do with my time.

    Same thing I was thinking

  • geardaddy

    Anyone hear any Texas DFS updates specifically with fanduel?

  • tgs1976

    • 2016 FanDuel MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    Blows.

  • Jdizzy007

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    Other than DK, what DFS sites currently allow Texas residents to play?

  • madmanjayWV

    Someone smarter than me might have the answer, but I’d try Fantasy Aces ???? New Yorkers can play there so maybe TX can 2?

  • deactivated84892

    As far as I’m aware, FanDuel is the only DFS site not allowing Texas.

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