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  • golfgalaxy

    Since July 2014 when I referred my first player to the Fanduel website the rakeback that was generated was a good source of income for me. My business has continued to grow with additions of a few very high volume players. In the last year I havent played much DFS just continued to refer players and since I had more then 5 players and more then 5k in revenue I was able to collect 35% of the rake that my players payed.

    On December 10th after not receiving my referral payments that month I inquired if payments had been paid out yet. I was informed that yes they had been and I would not be receiving any more payments via the referral system because my account was under investigation for “suspicious activity”. It took me 37 emails back and forth with Fanduel customer support, before they told me what I had done wrong. Here was their response.

    Thanks for following up. I’ll be happy to reiterate.
    FanDuel accounts are intended for gameplay, however your account’s sole purpose for almost one year has been to pull in large amounts of referral earnings and immediately withdraw those funds. Since our Accounts Team found you to be using the service in a way in which it is not intended, this was deemed suspicious activity. As a result, the account was suspended so that it can be further reviewed by our team.
    As per our Terms of Use, FanDuel, in its sole discretion, reserves the right to suspend an account where conduct is deemed improper and/or not used as intended.
    There is no timeframe on the suspension, so as of now you can consider it indefinite. FanDuel needs to further look into not only your particular case, but also the referral system as a whole to make sure that it is being used only in a manner that is in the true spirit of the game.
    I hope this helps provide some more clarity. If you have any further questions about this or how to proceed, please let me know.
    Best,

    So I brought Fanduel a lot of business via the referral program which is the exact purpose of them having a referral program and not only did they cut ties with me there, they also suspended my account. Ill copy below the Fanduel terms of service for referral and nowhere did I violate any of their rules. Reaching out to the RG community because I feel like I did nothing wrong and got very screwed.

    Terms and conditions

    The FanDuel Referral Program – The FanDuel referral program allows all FanDuel players to financially participate and benefit in the growth of the site by receiving commissions from players they refer to FanDuel.

    Eligibility – All registered FanDuel players are eligible for the Referral Program, except in cases where an account has been explicitly suspended from FanDuel or from participation in the referral program.

    Referrals – In order to be tracked, the referred player needs to have signed up after clicking on a referral link. A referral link can be provided by cut-and-pasting it from the Referral Center, via an email generated from the Referral Center, shared via Facebook or Twitter from the Referral Center, or via a system generated challenge link for a specific contest. If a player signs up without using your referral link, we will not be able to manually credit you for the referral.

    Additional Referral Rules – You will not receive credit for referring yourself, any member of your immediate family, or any member of your household. In addition, you will not receive credit for referring someone who already has an existing FanDuel account. Referrals determined not to follow these rules may have payments suspended at any time. Commissions earned from referred players which have not followed program rules may be retroactively removed from your account, and you may face suspension from the FanDuel referral program. If one of your referrals is deemed (through the use of a promocode or other tracking) to have been introduced to FanDuel via another source, we will not pay referral fees to you for that user.

    Commissions – Commissions will be earned based on the real money activity of players who have been credited to you as referrals. As long as The FanDuel Referral Program exists you will receive commissions for all credited referrals, subject to the Referral Rules stated above. Commissions will be based on Net Revenue Generated.

    Net Revenue Generated – Net revenue generated will be based on the portion of gross contest fees remaining after all costs that can be attributed to a specific player have been removed. In other words, the referred players’ share of contest entry fees minus contest prizes, with certain subtractions based on bonuses, cost of promotions, FDP spending and other transactional costs associated with the referred players’ accounts.

    Commission Thresholds – Commission will be paid at the following rates for each Net Revenue level each month. As each new higher rate is achieved, it will be applied only to dollars earned above that level. In other words, your commission on the first $1,000 of net revenue will be earned at a 20% commission rate, your commission on each dollar of net revenue from $1001-$1999 will be earned at a 25% rate, etc. You will only be able to achieve earning rates above 20% if you have referred a minimum of five players who are active in the month in which commissions are earned. If you have less than 5 active players in a given month, your commission is capped at 20% for that month. An active player is defined as one who entered at least one real money contest during the month.

    < 1000 —————- 20%
    $1000 – $1,999 ——- 25%
    $2000 – $4,999 ——————- 30%
    $5,000+ ——- 35%

    Payment – Payment will be made directly into your FanDuel account once per month, generally within ten days of the end of each month.

    Referral Center – The new Referral Center (accessible when logged into FanDuel.com) will provide extensive ability to invite your friends to play on FanDuel, to track your referrals and commissions, and to learn more about how to recruit new players. One point worth noting is that the breakdown by individual referral will show an estimate of the contribution to your total commission earned that each referral made each month. This estimate is based on player prizes won, and it’s done this way to preserve the confidential information on entry fees paid and profitability of each player.

    Retroactive Credits – Referrals will not be credited retroactively for those who made referrals prior to the introduction of the new program on March 14, 2012. Referrals made prior to that time were made under our older program, which awarded $10 in Pending Bonus into the accounts of the referring player and the referred player. However, if you made a referral under the old program between February 14, 2012 and March 13, 2012, you may notify us via a support ticket that you would like to transfer that referral to the new program. If you do so, we will make this change by subtracting the $10 in your pending bonus account. Your referred player will keep the $10 of Pending Bonus in his/her account, and their generated commissions will be tracked and awarded under the new program rules going forward.

    Referral Program Changes – FanDuel reserves the right to make changes to the referral program (including terminating the program entirely) in the future.

    Taxes – You are responsible for paying any sales, use or other taxes related to any commissions awarded to you in connection with the Referral Program. FanDuel reserves the right to withhold taxes from commissions, as appropriate.

    Marketing – All marketing activities conducted as part of your recruiting efforts for the FanDuel referral program must meet the following requirements:

    You are required to follow all applicable laws.
    You may not use any incentivized marketing that provides any your recruits financial incentives to sign up with you, beyond those that are standard parts of the FanDuel Referral Program.
    You are prohibited from engaging in spamming activities via email, facsimile, social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter, or any other means. Engaging in such activities may result (at FanDuel’s discretion) in non-payment of commissions.
    You may not recruit or use recruiting materials that in any way promote inappropriate content (such as that promoting violence, discrimination, or lewd or pornographic material) or that use deceptive, unethical or illegal means of soliciting referrals.
    You are not permitted to use any third-party trademarks in your recruiting activities.
    Do not use paid advertising to promote your referral link. If you want to become involved in paid promotion for the site please apply to join our affiliate program.

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  • akarkennny

    yeah this is definitely some bullshit

  • pokerrob1970

    DraftDay BLB Finalist

    There are loads and loads of loop holes in the tos. Not sure if its still there or not but in 2011 it used to state that if your “referral” was inactive for a period of 6 months you lost the person as a referral. With all that’s going on i think its pretty safe to say that the sites will be looking to find any way out of these affiliate or referral programs in the months ahead.

  • deejones49

    Since the ads are not running now you would think they need referrals more than ever

  • MTro86

    RG Writer

    The funds to pay these lawyers has to come from somewhere.

  • DoubleTime

    • 2016 King of Summer: August

    This is super F’d up

  • tonytone1908

    @DaveNYC said...

    this is flat out shady and their affiliate manager needs to come on here and answer some questions. I am a very high volume affiliate marketer and this seems eerily similar to what happened to me in the late 90’s with online gambling & poker. I sent over a million $ in gameplay referrals to some well known sites back then and they refused to pay and cancelled my affiliate account for similar terms. real deal shady, you do not have to put back in your affiliate earnings. For 99% of things I promote as an affiliate, I don’t use personally.

    I inquired a while ago about setting up a seperate business account on a few of these DFS sites, solely for affiliate purposes, and got mixed answers. I have a ton of daily fantasy traffic and need to start monetizing it. I hope FD and DK reps can come on here and answer.

    Except this is not an affiliate account, it’s a players account. You would expect DirecTV to pay you for referrals, if you had Uverse? They have an affiliate program, this wasn’t one.

    Were your 5 people all located within a general vicinity of each other, at least in the same state? I’m guessing they think that you could someone be the actual owner of these 5 accounts and think you were trying to manipulate the system.

    As stated, they do have the right to change the program as they please, I’m guessing that’s what they did.

    I’m curious as to whether or not those 5 accounts got shut down as well? Honestly, there are so many ways they could think there is some kind of fraud involved here.

  • Nobakov

    Super shady on FD’s part. Yeah it’s in the “TOS” that they…“reserve the right…”…but that means they can do things like this for any reason they want, unjustly as it seems here.

    I’m withdrawing and taking my business elsewhere until they explain themselves here. Unless this guy referred himself, it’s bullsht.

  • LegiaWwa

    It sounds fair to me if you quit playing. It seems like common sense that the referral money is only to be played on FD. Should have worked something out if you were just gonna stop playing.

  • FunkyColdModella

    Sounds like they’re trying to recoup some of those millions spent on the 24/7/365 ad blitz they were running.

    Questions to OP: So you’re recommending a bunch of people to play on Fan Duel but you don’t play anymore yourself? Are you good with recommending people play something you’re unwilling to do any longer? I wouldn’t be…….

    Just my .02¢

  • Putz

    @LegiaWwa said...

    It sounds fair to me if you quit playing. It seems like common sense that the referral money is only to be played on FD. Should have worked something out if you were just gonna stop playing.

    If it makes sense, why wouldn’t it be in the referral rules? That’s what people are saying. Why wouldn’t they give him a warning? That’s why people suggest it is shady.

  • Putz

    @FunkyColdModella said...

    Sounds like they’re trying to recoup some of those millions spent on the 24/7/365 ad blitz they were running.

    Questions to OP: So you’re recommending a bunch of people to play on Fan Duel but you don’t play anymore yourself? Are you good with recommending people play something you’re unwilling to do any longer? I wouldn’t be…….

    Just my .02¢

    Life events may not allow him to do so. Maybe he works a mid shift and is at work during evening lineup lock. Maybe he works weekends. Maybe he had kids and time is limited lately and the hobby was sacrificed. Lots of reasons, but if this was not stated in TOS, how is he able to decide? The site made the decision for him with a loophole.

    There may be more facts we don’t know, so I’ll reserve judgement. What I will say is if these are the only facts, and this happens to others, sites are not in as good of a position as we thought and maybe they are scrounging for $$. It also adds ammunition for those trying to regulate and/or shut down the industry.

    I didn’t play online poker, but did similar activity by the sites occur before that industry was shut down?

  • barro

    Few thoughts:
    I see FD side cause then what stops me from making one account to refer myself and then just play on the referred account and take back to myself. That’s the protection they seek in the term ‘player’.

    Sounds like FDs mistake is not making this a bonus credit like they do with deposit bonuses

    Lastly, if you don’t think you did anything wrong and your referrals are truly generating that much money, play their game and sue their asses or threaten to tell some media outlets. Last thing they want is more negative pub at this point. I think a strong letter from a lawyer will give you more leverage very quickly.

  • golfgalaxy

    @tonytone1908 said...

    Except this is not an affiliate account, it’s a players account. You would expect DirecTV to pay you for referrals, if you had Uverse? They have an affiliate program, this wasn’t one.

    Were your 5 people all located within a general vicinity of each other, at least in the same state? I’m guessing they think that you could someone be the actual owner of these 5 accounts and think you were trying to manipulate the system.

    As stated, they do have the right to change the program as they please, I’m guessing that’s what they did.

    I’m curious as to whether or not those 5 accounts got shut down as well? Honestly, there are so many ways they could think there is some kind of fraud involved here.

    I believe I have referred 7-8 players in the last 2 years. 2 were from minnesota where I live and the others are spread out. A couple from California, denver. 1 was from Vegas.

    None of those accounts have been shut down (they would be costing themselves a lot of money in rake if they did that).

  • FunkyColdModella

    @Putz said...

    Life events may not allow him to do so. Maybe he works a mid shift and is at work during evening lineup lock. Maybe he works weekends. Maybe he had kids and time is limited lately and the hobby was sacrificed. Lots of reasons, but if this was not stated in TOS, how is he able to decide? The site made the decision for him with a loophole.

    There may be more facts we don’t know, so I’ll reserve judgement. What I will say is if these are the only facts, and this happens to others, sites are not in as good of a position as we thought and maybe they are scrounging for $$. It also adds ammunition for those trying to regulate and/or shut down the industry.

    I didn’t play online poker, but did similar activity by the sites occur before that industry was shut down?

    I work rotating shifts (day shift, evening shifts, midnight shifts and weekends) on a regular basis and if anything, it allows me more time to get my lineups ready.

    I’m sure there are other things that may distract him but I would stop referring people if I weren’t playing. Some people look at it as if they’re giving up money but to me I won’t refer someone if I’m not using that product.

  • ItzJamesFTW

    @SEAHAWK03 said...

    golfgalaxy, look at the fantasydraft.com 6 Degrees of Pay. It is for people just like you wanting to build a business, with NO Qualifiers ( you dont have to play) and it costs nothing to sign up.

    Yeah, you just have to spam your referral link everywhere hoping one stranger you spam doesn’t tell you to eff off.

  • phillydilly

    as someone who is not getting rakeback, this thread leaves me super thrilled with DK and FD.

  • barro

    @phillydilly said...

    as someone who is not getting rakeback, this thread leaves me super thrilled with DK and FD.

    Why?? What give you pleasure at someone else not getting something?

  • phillydilly

    @barro said...

    Why?? What give you pleasure at someone else not getting something?

    my tone was meant to be sarcastic, obv didn’t come through. stupid internet.

    I have no problem with anyone getting rakeback. I’d like to see everyone get rakeback.

  • sethayates

    @golfgalaxy said...

    I believe I have referred 7-8 players in the last 2 years. 2 were from minnesota where I live and the others are spread out. A couple from California, denver. 1 was from Vegas.

    None of those accounts have been shut down (they would be costing themselves a lot of money in rake if they did that).

    In your profile here on RG, your username for FanDuel is “golfgalaxy” You joined RG January 5th 2014. On DK your username is “anomoly.”

    On FD there’s a rather high volume user named “anomoly” who has played on FD since 4/8/2014. He’s played 99,101 contests. Is he one of your referrals?

    https://www.fanduel.com/users/anomoly

    https://rotogrinders.com/profiles/golfgalaxy

    Also, looking at your results you play quite a bit of NBA on DK as anomoly but you dont play on FD at all? Or at least not as golfgalaxy.

  • myb821

    @sethayates said...

    In your profile here on RG, your username for FanDuel is “golfgalaxy” You joined RG January 5th 2014. On DK your username is “anomoly.”

    On FD there’s a rather high volume user named “anomoly” who has played on FD since 4/8/2014. He’s played 99,101 contests. Is he one of your referrals?

    https://www.fanduel.com/users/anomoly

    https://rotogrinders.com/profiles/golfgalaxy

    Also, looking at your results you play quite a bit of NBA on DK as anomoly but you dont play on FD at all? Or at least not as golfgalaxy.

    Ding Ding Ding we have a winner.

  • sethayates

    @myb821 said...

    Ding Ding Ding we have a winner.

    I don’t know. This all could be an anomaly (which is the correct way to spell it, not anomoly).

  • golfgalaxy

    @sethayates said...

    In your profile here on RG, your username for FanDuel is “golfgalaxy” You joined RG January 5th 2014. On DK your username is “anomoly.”

    On FD there’s a rather high volume user named “anomoly” who has played on FD since 4/8/2014. He’s played 99,101 contests. Is he one of your referrals?

    https://www.fanduel.com/users/anomoly

    https://rotogrinders.com/profiles/golfgalaxy

    Also, looking at your results you play quite a bit of NBA on DK as anomoly but you dont play on FD at all? Or at least not as golfgalaxy.

    Anomoly is a referral yes. Regardless that isnt why they shut down my Golfgalaxy account. The RG account is a shared account.

  • golfgalaxy

    @sethayates said...

    In your profile here on RG, your username for FanDuel is “golfgalaxy” You joined RG January 5th 2014. On DK your username is “anomoly.”

    On FD there’s a rather high volume user named “anomoly” who has played on FD since 4/8/2014. He’s played 99,101 contests. Is he one of your referrals?

    https://www.fanduel.com/users/anomoly

    https://rotogrinders.com/profiles/golfgalaxy

    Also, looking at your results you play quite a bit of NBA on DK as anomoly but you dont play on FD at all? Or at least not as golfgalaxy.

    Regardless I have also referred 2 other high volume players as well that make up the majority of my business.

  • mooseHAMMER78

    • Moderator

    Welp…..

  • slcseas

    @golfgalaxy said...

    Regardless I have also referred 2 other high volume players as well that make up the majority of my business.

    Well your credibility is now gone, so you may as well just give up on this one. You aren’t going to find a single person that is sympathetic that you got popped for multiple accounts. /thread

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