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  • golfgalaxy

    Since July 2014 when I referred my first player to the Fanduel website the rakeback that was generated was a good source of income for me. My business has continued to grow with additions of a few very high volume players. In the last year I havent played much DFS just continued to refer players and since I had more then 5 players and more then 5k in revenue I was able to collect 35% of the rake that my players payed.

    On December 10th after not receiving my referral payments that month I inquired if payments had been paid out yet. I was informed that yes they had been and I would not be receiving any more payments via the referral system because my account was under investigation for “suspicious activity”. It took me 37 emails back and forth with Fanduel customer support, before they told me what I had done wrong. Here was their response.

    Thanks for following up. I’ll be happy to reiterate.
    FanDuel accounts are intended for gameplay, however your account’s sole purpose for almost one year has been to pull in large amounts of referral earnings and immediately withdraw those funds. Since our Accounts Team found you to be using the service in a way in which it is not intended, this was deemed suspicious activity. As a result, the account was suspended so that it can be further reviewed by our team.
    As per our Terms of Use, FanDuel, in its sole discretion, reserves the right to suspend an account where conduct is deemed improper and/or not used as intended.
    There is no timeframe on the suspension, so as of now you can consider it indefinite. FanDuel needs to further look into not only your particular case, but also the referral system as a whole to make sure that it is being used only in a manner that is in the true spirit of the game.
    I hope this helps provide some more clarity. If you have any further questions about this or how to proceed, please let me know.
    Best,

    So I brought Fanduel a lot of business via the referral program which is the exact purpose of them having a referral program and not only did they cut ties with me there, they also suspended my account. Ill copy below the Fanduel terms of service for referral and nowhere did I violate any of their rules. Reaching out to the RG community because I feel like I did nothing wrong and got very screwed.

    Terms and conditions

    The FanDuel Referral Program – The FanDuel referral program allows all FanDuel players to financially participate and benefit in the growth of the site by receiving commissions from players they refer to FanDuel.

    Eligibility – All registered FanDuel players are eligible for the Referral Program, except in cases where an account has been explicitly suspended from FanDuel or from participation in the referral program.

    Referrals – In order to be tracked, the referred player needs to have signed up after clicking on a referral link. A referral link can be provided by cut-and-pasting it from the Referral Center, via an email generated from the Referral Center, shared via Facebook or Twitter from the Referral Center, or via a system generated challenge link for a specific contest. If a player signs up without using your referral link, we will not be able to manually credit you for the referral.

    Additional Referral Rules – You will not receive credit for referring yourself, any member of your immediate family, or any member of your household. In addition, you will not receive credit for referring someone who already has an existing FanDuel account. Referrals determined not to follow these rules may have payments suspended at any time. Commissions earned from referred players which have not followed program rules may be retroactively removed from your account, and you may face suspension from the FanDuel referral program. If one of your referrals is deemed (through the use of a promocode or other tracking) to have been introduced to FanDuel via another source, we will not pay referral fees to you for that user.

    Commissions – Commissions will be earned based on the real money activity of players who have been credited to you as referrals. As long as The FanDuel Referral Program exists you will receive commissions for all credited referrals, subject to the Referral Rules stated above. Commissions will be based on Net Revenue Generated.

    Net Revenue Generated – Net revenue generated will be based on the portion of gross contest fees remaining after all costs that can be attributed to a specific player have been removed. In other words, the referred players’ share of contest entry fees minus contest prizes, with certain subtractions based on bonuses, cost of promotions, FDP spending and other transactional costs associated with the referred players’ accounts.

    Commission Thresholds – Commission will be paid at the following rates for each Net Revenue level each month. As each new higher rate is achieved, it will be applied only to dollars earned above that level. In other words, your commission on the first $1,000 of net revenue will be earned at a 20% commission rate, your commission on each dollar of net revenue from $1001-$1999 will be earned at a 25% rate, etc. You will only be able to achieve earning rates above 20% if you have referred a minimum of five players who are active in the month in which commissions are earned. If you have less than 5 active players in a given month, your commission is capped at 20% for that month. An active player is defined as one who entered at least one real money contest during the month.

    < 1000 —————- 20%
    $1000 – $1,999 ——- 25%
    $2000 – $4,999 ——————- 30%
    $5,000+ ——- 35%

    Payment – Payment will be made directly into your FanDuel account once per month, generally within ten days of the end of each month.

    Referral Center – The new Referral Center (accessible when logged into FanDuel.com) will provide extensive ability to invite your friends to play on FanDuel, to track your referrals and commissions, and to learn more about how to recruit new players. One point worth noting is that the breakdown by individual referral will show an estimate of the contribution to your total commission earned that each referral made each month. This estimate is based on player prizes won, and it’s done this way to preserve the confidential information on entry fees paid and profitability of each player.

    Retroactive Credits – Referrals will not be credited retroactively for those who made referrals prior to the introduction of the new program on March 14, 2012. Referrals made prior to that time were made under our older program, which awarded $10 in Pending Bonus into the accounts of the referring player and the referred player. However, if you made a referral under the old program between February 14, 2012 and March 13, 2012, you may notify us via a support ticket that you would like to transfer that referral to the new program. If you do so, we will make this change by subtracting the $10 in your pending bonus account. Your referred player will keep the $10 of Pending Bonus in his/her account, and their generated commissions will be tracked and awarded under the new program rules going forward.

    Referral Program Changes – FanDuel reserves the right to make changes to the referral program (including terminating the program entirely) in the future.

    Taxes – You are responsible for paying any sales, use or other taxes related to any commissions awarded to you in connection with the Referral Program. FanDuel reserves the right to withhold taxes from commissions, as appropriate.

    Marketing – All marketing activities conducted as part of your recruiting efforts for the FanDuel referral program must meet the following requirements:

    You are required to follow all applicable laws.
    You may not use any incentivized marketing that provides any your recruits financial incentives to sign up with you, beyond those that are standard parts of the FanDuel Referral Program.
    You are prohibited from engaging in spamming activities via email, facsimile, social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter, or any other means. Engaging in such activities may result (at FanDuel’s discretion) in non-payment of commissions.
    You may not recruit or use recruiting materials that in any way promote inappropriate content (such as that promoting violence, discrimination, or lewd or pornographic material) or that use deceptive, unethical or illegal means of soliciting referrals.
    You are not permitted to use any third-party trademarks in your recruiting activities.
    Do not use paid advertising to promote your referral link. If you want to become involved in paid promotion for the site please apply to join our affiliate program.

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  • britdevine

    • 2014 StarStreet MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    Looks like Seth got to the bottom of this

  • slcseas

    Seth A. Yates, DFS Detective

  • sethayates

    @golfgalaxy said...

    Anomoly is a referral yes. Regardless that isnt why they shut down my Golfgalaxy account. The RG account is a shared account.

    Apoligies if my response above sounded mean. I was trying to keep it light-hearted and joking. Obviously, only FanDuel knows why they shut down your account and they may or may not pass that on to you.

    It sure seems to me that what they are accusing you of is creating an alternate account to refer your own play. You signed up here on RG in January 2014. Then four months later someone who shares this RG account with you created a FD account and spelled anomoly the same way you do. They started playing heavy volume on FD and you basically quit. Then, they either linked their DK name to this RG account or you play under their name on DK.

    It all seems pretty confusing, but I can certainly see how FD could get the idea that you are simply referring your own play.

  • pdidier86

    Wow, golfgalaxy had quite the scheme going here.

    Another thing to point out is that fact that he was making so much money off of just “7-8 referrals”. So all the referrals just happen to big players? lol.

  • sethayates

    @pdidier86 said...

    Wow, golfgalaxy had quite the scheme going here.

    Another thing to point out is that fact that he was making so much money off of just “7-8 referrals”. So all the referrals just happen to big players? lol.

    Also interesting that right here in this thread he said:

    “I was a player a couple of years ago during NBA lost about $30,000”

    When you look at his FD results under Golfgalaxy he had 5 wins last year but otherwise hasn’t played FD NBA since Feb 7th 2014. Looking at the results previous to Feb7th 2014, the $30K claim is very believable. Then suddenly, anomoly created an account in April 2014 and golfgalaxy basically never played again (except 5 contests in 2015).

    So, if we are only following the statements in this thread golfgalaxy lost $30K on FD and quit playing himself but was able to convince a friend to start playing at roughly the same volume that caused the $30K loss.

    It’s all very interesting. I don’t want to sound like I’m a shill for FD though so I’ll stop. The only reason I even came back to this thread is because it was very one-sided and taking a negative tone against FD. There is always more to any story.

  • bkamm1

    This is such a good flashback to the good ol days of online poker multiacounting. The OP always fail to mention ALL of the details in the first post.

  • h4v0c

    @Putz said...

    Follow the $$. There is your amswer.

    Get Lester Freamon on it, he alway’s find the $$

  • iverson

    @bkamm1 said...

    This is such a good flashback to the good ol days of online poker multiacounting. The OP always fail to mention ALL of the details in the first post.

    yep.

    lol. i love it when a cheater OUTS HIMSELF in an online forum. what an idiot.

  • winsome

    @sethayates said...

    It all seems pretty confusing,

    Not really. Also, Wtf is a “shared” account at RG?

  • JustDFSin

    Golfgalaxy are you not going to address these allegations of multiple accounts?. Trying to win sympathy knowing you are breaking the rules is not cool. It sounds like you had something good going on and then you decided to be greedy. Take that as a life lesson.

  • winsome

    This also raises another interesting question. What exactly are FD & DK doing to prevent multi accounting if this has gone on for almost 2 years and Seth sniffed it out in less than a few minutes. Safe to say “nothing”?

  • Razzle11

    @winsome said...

    This also raises another interesting question. What exactly are FD & DK doing to prevent multi accounting if this has gone on for almost 2 years and Seth sniffed it out in less than a few minutes. Safe to say “nothing”?

    But that is because Seth has a “Nose for the….ball…….”

  • tonytone1908

    @winsome said...

    This also raises another interesting question. What exactly are FD & DK doing to prevent multi accounting if this has gone on for almost 2 years and Seth sniffed it out in less than a few minutes. Safe to say “nothing”?

    well the only ones it hurts are the sites themselves. besides, it seems they did do something.

  • dude_abides7

    @winsome said...

    This also raises another interesting question. What exactly are FD & DK doing to prevent multi accounting if this has gone on for almost 2 years and Seth sniffed it out in less than a few minutes. Safe to say “nothing”?

    Not a site apologist…but in this case they did exactly what they needed to do. Shut this joker down.

    He is essentially here bitching because it appears he got caught. Seth just was able to read between the shit stains in order to uncover the likely truth. (well done by the way)

  • winsome

    @tonytone1908 said...

    well the only ones it hurts are the sites themselves. besides, it seems they did do something.

    Agreed, they did do something which is great. But it took 2 years and what sounds like a manual review. What I was referring to is what are they doing to prevent it from happening in the first place.

    And yes in this instance they are the ones who got their pockets picked but multi accounting is far more damaging to us as players than the sites.

    Did golfgalaxy/anomoly go into hiding?

  • dakimbell

    I’m still not smart enough to get it, but it seems you have caught him Seth.

  • sethayates

    @winsome said...

    Agreed, they did do something which is great. But it took 2 years and what sounds like a manual review. What I was referring to is what are they doing to prevent it from happening in the first place.

    And yes in this instance they are the ones who got their pockets picked but multi accounting is far more damaging to us as players than the sites.

    Did golfgalaxy/anomoly go into hiding?

    To be fair, this isn’t necessarily multi-accounting. It could be that both Golfgalaxy and Anomoly are valid accounts with valid SSNs. They’d have to be since they would likely have received a 1099 at some point.

    Under the current referral system there’s nothing stopping someone from referring their own play. As long as you can provide two separate people with valid SSNs and documentation who aren’t related. I think that’s the point FD was making in thier original reply. “They need to look at the referral system in its entirety.”

    Golfgalaxy didn’t necessarily do anything wrong here according to the site’s TOS provided both accounts are verifiably two different people. I think that’s why FD was rather vague with him. He’s violating the spirit of the program but not the letter.

  • w3stcoastoff3ns3

    Greed will be the death of DFS.

  • deactivated17417

    The rake is too damn high so I am still on OPs side. This is some bullshit by FD.

    Anyone remember the thread when FD announced volume restrictions for NFL?

  • smallANDflaccid

    @w3stcoastoff3ns3 said...

    Greed will be the death of DFS.

    Agreed, I was really sad when I saw greed take out the financial industry that no longer exists because of greed and all.

  • smallANDflaccid

    @TheCoz said...

    The rake is too damn high so I am still on OPs side

    Do all of the sites have the same rake?

  • SEAHAWK03

    No , all sites do not have the same rake. The rake varies from site to site as well as contest types. Fantasydraft seems to have the lowest rake across most contest types.

  • Putz

  • stoptheinsanity

    @sethayates said...

    It’s all very interesting. I don’t want to sound like I’m a shill for FD though so I’ll stop.

    You don’t sound like a shill. It’s pretty obvious this guy got caught trying to cheat the system. The only thing I am confused about is why did he start a thread to expose his scam? People confuse me constantly.

  • Aurren

    Like Seth said, what the op has done isn’t necessarily against TOS. Even if he did refer himself and that’s not allowed, he can still prove his other referrals are still legitimate. If he feels really strongly, consult a consumer attorney in either Minnesota or New York. Both states should have consumer protection laws protecting consumers from “bait and switch” tactics. You won’t find any solutions here and it might end up hurting your case in the end. May the truth prevail.

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