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  • RussARMNY

    2013 PFFC Finalist, 2013 DSBC Finalist, 2013 PFBC Finalist, $150k DS Big Score Champion

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    FanDuel to restrict DFS players from the state of Washington.

    Let’s hope this is not the beginning of the end: @Fanduel – Washington State are now restricted to free game.

    https://www.fanduel.com/insider/2014/02/12/washington-state-players-are-now-restricted-to-free-games/

  • sethayates

    Really? One of the first states to legalize marijuana has a problem with people playing fantasy sports for money?

  • Priptonite

    • Blogger of the Month

    I live in Washington… ffffff

  • metsfan828

    DK Admin

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    Here’s what we just put up on insider (https://www.fanduel.com/insider/2014/02/12/washington-state-players-are-now-restricted-to-free-games/)

    We regret to announce that we are no longer able to accept paying players from Washington state.

    We constantly monitor the legal environment in which we operate. This means in the last 2 years we were able to open up to two previously restricted states, Maryland and Vermont, who passed legislation allowing fantasy sports.

    However in a recent legal review our lawyers have advised us that we should exit Washington for paid games. Note, there is no specific event that has caused us to make this change. This means Washington joins Arizona, Iowa, Louisiana and Montana on the list of states that we must restrict. The change now brings our list of excluded states in line with major fantasy providers like CBS Sports.

    The restriction affects both new and existing players.

    We sympathize with players in Washington who have enjoyed playing for real money on FanDuel. We are currently working with the Fantasy Sports Trade Association to get the laws changed or clarified in these five restricted states. In the meantime we invite you to enjoy free games on FanDuel, and of course to withdraw your account balance if you have one.

  • Priptonite

    • Blogger of the Month

    I have a ticket to the 40k Hat Trick… what happens with that?

  • db730

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    Email Len@FanDuel.com. My guess is they will give you cash value for it.

  • RussARMNY

    2013 PFFC Finalist, 2013 DSBC Finalist, 2013 PFBC Finalist, $150k DS Big Score Champion

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    You need to move asap

  • Taterchipdip

    First the Seattle Seahawks win the Superbowl. Then 10 days later no one from Washington State can play fantasy sports with money? Bummer!! What a rollercoaster of emotions!! Good thing it doesn’t effect me.

  • jecarl2

    I guess you guys cant have all the fun. At least you can get high anytime you want. On a serious note that would suck. I would have to move if it became illegal in my state.

  • FBO

    what if we have money in our account can we still cash out, and what about our pending games

  • FBO

    glad i was in the process of moving to oregon whew.

  • waiverwire

    @FBO said…

    what if we have money in our account can we still cash out, and what about our pending games

    You can cash out, and contests that you were entered in prior to our announcement are fine.

  • FBO

    Im changing mine to my oregon stuff

  • kaetorade

    • 2013 DraftStreet DSBBC Finalist

    This is certainly disappointing. In the event that my state(TX) was suddenly considered an at-risk state and disallowed to play cash games, what would happen to my balance?

  • waiverwire

    @kaetorade said…

    This is certainly disappointing. In the event that my state(TX) was suddenly considered an at-risk state and disallowed to play cash games, what would happen to my balance?

    The balances are all safe. People can withdraw the same as before. They simply aren’t allowed to enter cash contests.

  • Priptonite

    • Blogger of the Month

    @winsome said…

    Is this really gonna prevent anyone living in Washington from actually playing DFS?

    Probably depends on the person. For me I will look into other sites that still allow Washington players. In the event that those sites follow suit I’ll have to consider other options. I don’t think it’ll stop me from playing, but for the time being it’ll stop me from playing on FanDuel.

  • DillingerFour

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    Any possibility of keeping out players from California?

  • adamo112

    Agreed. I live in WA and so I’m just pulling my money out of FD and will take my business to DS (for larger tourneys) – and will continue to play on my preferred sites (DD and SS). It’s never been made real clear what it is that the lawyers see in the WA state laws that makes it so worrisome. As a former law student, I guess I don’t see it. But it’s always been this way on DraftKings, since I can recall looking, so it is what it is.

    Unlike in the past though where you were just sort of out of luck if your state was restricted on a site, I think the announcement of a state coming off the board may create an impetus for someone to do some real exploring/lobbying on this one. Reason: it’s pretty bad for DFS overall to have any public announcements detailing concerns with illegality – even if on a state or site level.

  • Putz

    I want to better understand why the lawyers felt WA players provided a business liability to FD, even though, “there is no specific event that caused us to make this change.”

    Something is rotten in the state of Denmark!

  • louiescards

    DK KoTH winner

    @DillingerFour said…

    Any possibility of keeping out players from California?

    Haha, love it!

  • alsmizzle

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    @DillingerFour said…

    Any possibility of keeping out players from California?

    no, Primetime and I legally bound to continue crushing your soul

  • DillingerFour

    FD Rep - DFBMeeMee Champ (x2)

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    @alsmizzle said…

    no, Primetime and I legally bound to continue crushing your soul

    “Did I qualify? Wooooo! Sorry D4!”-PrimeTime420

    Dammit!

  • joonbae

    • Blogger of the Month

    The whole hypocrisy is that lottery is big in Washington State but daily fantasy is or could be illegal? Lottery is the ultimate in gambling or games of chance. Sure, you can call lottery more of a form of taxation for the poor … but, if that’s the case, call it what it is – a “Lottery Tax”.

    What is more harmful to society, families, communities, and the future of the children, family, city, county, state, country, and eventually … civilization? DFS online? Probably not. It’s (drumroll) …

    Taxing the poor through lottery. And WA (and other states) spend OUR collective tax dollars to market & promote their lottery to us.

    Also, I wish fanduel would just be transparent for once and tell players WHY they stopped allowing Washington residents from playing. Clearly, something happened. Even if they say the periodic reviews with their attorneys yielded a different advice this time around, this certainly means some event occurred to cause the attorney(s) to change their stance. Players deserve to know the cause part of cause/effect. Right now, fanduel is just giving us the effect of the cause/effect. Saying the climate change so their policy changed … is giving us the effect. The “cause” would be to let us all know what caused the “climate to change” (effect).

    EDIT: I should not have made a generalized remark when I stated that Fanduel should show transparency “for once.” Their CEO has been on this forum on more than a few occasions and even went to great lengths to even explain or share their balance sheet summary. My remark about the transparency is specific to what caused the removal of a state. It is a bit unnerving to players when a site or set of sites plaster their homepage or FAQ page with a “DFS is 100% legal!” and then start listing all the exceptions.

  • htxstangs

    2013 DFBBC Finalist

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    Are there any others states that are on the verge of having these issues?

  • garbage9922

    • 2016 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @Putz said…

    I want to better understand why the lawyers felt WA players provided a business liability to FD, even though, “there is no specific event that caused us to make this change.”

    Something is rotten in the state of Denmark!

    The laws in Washington are very tough regarding online poker. It is a felony to even PLAY online poker in the state of Washington. We’re not talking about operating a site, we’re talking about logging on and playing is classified as a felony…as in punishable by more than a year in prison.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker/columns/story?id=5808565

    In most states, the act of playing itself is not a crime or is considered minor. It is only the operating of a site that is considered illegal.

    I am NOT saying DFS and poker are the same activity. However, it is my suspicion that the wording of the law is such that if an activity meets criteria x, y, and z, you can’t legally offer it or play it online.

    Additional disclaimer: I am not a lawyer.

  • garbage9922

    • 2016 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @joonbae said…

    The whole hypocrisy is that lottery is big in Washington State but daily fantasy is or could be illegal? Lottery is the ultimate in gambling or games of chance. Sure, you can call lottery more of a form of taxation for the poor … but, if that’s the case, call it what it is – a “Lottery Tax”.

    What is more harmful to society, families, communities, and the future of the children, family, city, county, state, country, and eventually … civilization? DFS online? Probably not. It’s (drumroll) …

    Taxing the poor through lottery. And WA (and other states) spend OUR collective tax dollars to market & promote their lottery to us.

    Also, I wish fanduel would just be transparent for once and tell players WHY they stopped allowing Washington residents from playing. Clearly, something happened. Even if they say the periodic reviews with their attorneys yielded a different advice this time around, this certainly means some event occurred to cause the attorney(s) to change their stance. Players deserve to know the cause part of cause/effect. Right now, fanduel is just giving us the effect of the cause/effect. Saying the climate change so their policy changed … is giving us the effect. The “cause” would be to let us all know what caused the “climate to change” (effect).

    Completely agree that the laws in Washington are hypocritical and stupid. I just looked them over and there’s a huge fucking section on turkey shoots and why they are exempt from this law. Is there any actual LOGICAL reason why? I’m sure there isn’t, the only reason why is that people who are into turkey shoots were able to get enough influence to have that put in.

    This is purely speculation, but maybe at FSTA some of the sites got together and wanted to make things more uniform so there’s less confusion among players.

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