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  • RussARMNY

    2013 PFFC Finalist, 2013 DSBC Finalist, 2013 PFBC Finalist, $150k DS Big Score Champion

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    FanDuel to restrict DFS players from the state of Washington.

    Let’s hope this is not the beginning of the end: @Fanduel – Washington State are now restricted to free game.

    https://www.fanduel.com/insider/2014/02/12/washington-state-players-are-now-restricted-to-free-games/

  • db730

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    Well written.

  • ldubble

    @YoungFischer said…

    Sent to state reps…

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    I enjoy playing fantasy football (both weekly and season leagues) for real money. This activity is made expressly legal on the federal level as part of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006. Unfortunately the Washington State Gambling Commission incorrectly takes a broad view of state law RCW 9.46.0225 in order to classify fantasy sports as a form of illegal gambling. As a result, the two largest legal fantasy sport providers in the United States, FanDuel.com and DraftKings.com, have pulled out of Washington State. Fantasy sports are an extremely popular and growing activity that I very much enjoy. I would like to see you introduce and/or support legislation to clarify RCW 9.46.0225. Please contact me if you have any questions or would like to discuss further. I would be happy to put you in touch with representatives from FanDuel and DraftKings who could further assist you. As always, I thank you for your service.

    very well written! nice job!!

  • adamo112

    One problem with appealing to state reps is they aren’t going to have a strong incentive to even examine the issue, let alone advocate for change. Unless a single rep is just inundated with unhappy district members (or an extremely loud minority), they are not going to sense a critical mass or anything that needs to be addressed. Part of the reason for this, I believe, is that Washington does not have a state income tax. Even just saying “hey, I paid $5K last year in state taxes on my DFS income” would get someone to pay attention. Alas, that’s not the case, so what exactly is the state (or that rep’s district) missing out on?

    I think the best argument to be made to actually appeal to how people really operate is to articulate the way WA state (or any state) is going to miss out on economic opportunities that will result from the growth of DFS as an industry. This is why the FSTA will likely need to be the one to lobby hostile/clueless states like WA. If FanDuel or DraftKings says “you should consider revisiting your laws,” what is in it for Washington? Changing those laws would help A) an out-of-state company, and B) residents who don’t pay state income tax. It doesn’t help the state on any practical or economic level. However, if the FSTA (or lobbyist engaged by the FSTA) goes to a state rep and says “look at sites A, B, and C that house the games, look at content providers X and Y, and look at this next wave of innovation that includes affiliate marketing solutions, etc. You are going to miss out on being a part of any of that. Seattle is a tech-friendly city with innovative people. Why restrict companies from setting up shop in your state – thus paying taxes, bringing jobs, etc.”

    It’s going to take someone pointing out the negatives associated with rejecting an industry – then, they would likely go “oh, it will take like a week to bring this up, point out the federal standard, and pass a bill with proper language.”

    That’s my take anyway. Someone’s going to have to make the big-picture economic argument to move the needle.

  • joonbae

    • Blogger of the Month

    Thank you Nigel for the clarification. It is as one poster said – simply absurd of WA. They should go arrest tens of thousands of people playing in office pools. Sigh. Absurd.

  • theateam2277

    Being from Washington this is a very sad day for me! I can’t for the life of me begin to figure out this state that I live in! Apparently our state feels good about opening pot shops all around town, close to parks, and near schools, but putting some money on fantasy sports is a crime. I am a hard working, honest, and responsible citizen and how I choose to spend my money should be my choice. Driving under the influence of pot putting my wife and children at risk is apparently okay, but God forbid I place a bet on fantasy sports form the comfort of my own home! If my job didn’t prevent me from moving I would consider it! This is ridiculous!

  • YoungFischer

    any armchair lawyers want to try to explain the supremacy clause with respect to this apparent conflict between federal and state law?

  • sethayates

    Maybe time for a change.org petition or even whitehouse.gov? I guarantee that at least 100,000 DFS players would sign.

  • garbage9922

    • 2016 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @YoungFischer said…

    any armchair lawyers want to try to explain the supremacy clause with respect to this apparent conflict between federal and state law?

    I am not a lawyer, but here are my thoughts.

    UIGEA does not “make DFS legal.” The language simply says UIGEA does not apply to fantasy sports.

    Each individual state decides what is legal and what is not with respect to gambling.

  • FBO

    What other sites are there like fanduel where you can create multiple games and see how many wins your Opponent has

  • htxstangs

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    What if you are a resident in two states? Say you live in Washington, but still own property in Texas. Would you have to visit Texas in order to play for money and just play free games while living in Washington?

  • joonbae

    • Blogger of the Month

    @htxstangs said…

    What if you are a resident in two states? Say you live in Washington, but still own property in Texas. Would you have to visit Texas in order to play for money and just play free games while living in Washington?

    I’d think it just depends on what address you are using for your account.

  • FBO

    use your texas address thats were your w2 will be sent

  • jojobean78

    Source?

  • jt83007

    Has anyone who initiated contact with the WA state reps heard back on anything? Would love to know the progress as I just found out about this news unfortunately and was very excited for the upcoming FanDuel NBA season…

  • jt83007

    @YoungFischer said...

    I enjoy playing fantasy football (both weekly and season leagues) for real money. This activity is made expressly legal on the federal level as part of the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006. Unfortunately the Washington State Gambling Commission incorrectly takes a broad view of state law RCW 9.46.0225 in order to classify fantasy sports as a form of illegal gambling. As a result, the two largest legal fantasy sport providers in the United States, FanDuel.com and DraftKings.com, have pulled out of Washington State. Fantasy sports are an extremely popular and growing activity that I very much enjoy. I would like to see you introduce and/or support legislation to clarify RCW 9.46.0225. Please contact me if you have any questions or would like to discuss further. I would be happy to put you in touch with representatives from FanDuel and DraftKings who could further assist you. As always, I thank you for your service.

    Well written, I think every DFS player in WA state needs to send this (or something similar) to the state reps, the more they hear from us the higher the likelihood SOME kind of action is taken… thoughts?

  • MRCOOKONUTS

    Anyone in those states simply have friend or family member in legal state open an account for you.
    Bit of hassle but provide them your picks so they can enter on your behalf.
    I wouldnt recommend entering your picks yourself as ip address possibly be traced to your banned state and any winnings voided if caught .Not sure contest legal ramifications of that- maybe its allowable so contact customer service..
    Good Luck….

  • natdogg40

    Yes, “simply” have a friend or family member in legal state that is available everyday before lineup lock to submit your picks. It’s so easy guys. Why haven’t I been doing this?

  • jt83007

    Yeah, the friend/family member idea isn’t going to fly (even though it may work) but I am not that desperate :) I just hope we can get them enabled back in WA state again…not really sure what happened, it’s been on in WA state for years…

  • Bestmade21

    Is las Vegas banned from fabduel

  • Olhausen

    @Bestmade21 said...

    Is las Vegas banned from fabduel

    Yes, Las Vegas has banned all fantasy sports sites for a month or two now.

  • BobGrinder

    @Olhausen said...

    Yes, Las Vegas has banned all fantasy sports sites for a month or two now.

    It’s not banned but nobody is licenced to operate DFS in NV right now.

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