• chrisp200


    I am not going trying to pick on FantasyDraft because they are not the only site not addressing this stuff, but this did just happen on their site in a tournament I was playing so I wanted to get a discussing going about.

    I am a casual player. I like to play. I do okay.

    Yesterday, I registered for a NHL/20 man/triple up on FantasyDraft. (9 game NHL slate)

    This is not a bad beat story, I finished with the most points

    So there were 20 players and seven of those players had the exact same lineup, in the exact same order!

    I understand that people sell lineups now, and this is common, but no site has addressed a solution yet, or even addressed that it’s an issue.

    As a casual player, this is taking the fun out of it for me.

    here is the results (you will notice that two of the players at 105pts rather than 106pts, this is only because they played the wrong Staal brother.


    Let me know what you guys think about this

    Lets limit the amount of times a lineup can be entered in a given tournament.

    I think it would depend on what kind of game it was (GPP or Cash), but setting a limit of around 10%-20% of the same lineup in a any given game seems more than fair.

    If a user attempts to enter the same lineup after the max has been reached, a message like: “this lineup has been maxed out for this tournament, please adjust your lineup and resubmit” will be shown.

    This will kill the industry in the long run IMO. Casual players don’t want to feel like they are getting hustled by sharks, just like they don’t want to feel like they are getting hustled at the poker tournament.

    All feedback welcome. Looking to hear everyones thoughts.

  • FastEddieFear

    Having bigger rosters does help a good bit.

  • Redskins4

    @FastEddieFear said...

    Having bigger rosters does help a good bit.

    It does help but not if people share lineups.

    RotoGrinders used to have an “optimal lineup” for draftstreet, that was highly played, until draftstreet said no.

  • travs424

    @Redskins4 said...

    RotoGrinders used to have an “optimal lineup” for draftstreet, that was highly played, until draftstreet said no.

    But DS was by far the best DFS site. too bad that DK bought them and used none of their ideas …haha

  • slashtc

    @travs424 said...

    But DS was by far the best DFS site. too bad that DK bought them and used none of their ideas …haha

    Exactly. I loved that site. DK? Not so much. FD? Even less. Worse than that is the crap going on at the big sites has me worried about even depositing money at any of the smaller sites.

  • Putz

    Is ballsdeep back in business?

  • AdamLoebSmall

    @Redskins4 said...

    Lineup sharing should be a ban-able offense, this is the solution: sites hire an anti fraud guy who will investigate lineup sharing or potential lineup sharing and perpetrators will be suspended from the site, or have winnings from contests they shared lineups in voided. Anti fraud guy could look at some back end things to help with this as well “These guys all made their lineups in under 30 seconds and they are all the same…”

    The sites should have whole teams of anti-fraud people. If they don’t today, they will soon. And I agree this stuff will not be all that difficult to detect. Cheaters gonna cheat, and these people who are intent on taking money out of the DFS ecosystem will continue to find ways to skirt the rules. And anti-fraud teams will continue to track those efforts and curtail them where possible. This stuff has gone on forever in poker, and game security is quite advanced. I’d not be at all surprised if StarsDraft is where the best practices currently lie for this kind of thing

  • DCoop328

    Why does this Lineup Sharing Thread have FantasyDraft in the title? Happens on all sites no sense in calling them out.

  • ponzicrash

    @DermDerm said...

    Serious question since I didn’t play much poker back in the day….but how did full tilt/ pokerstars catch players colluding? Would whatever process they were using be applicable to DFS today?

    Players self policed and reported them. That said I played ~30,000 SNGs on FTP and never ran into colluders. None that I was concerned with anyway.

    It was mainly a problem in 50/50 SNGs(collusion offers a much bigger advantage in that poker SNG format). Which is actually a really good analogy. How did stars(and others) solve the issue of many teams of players colluding in a particular game variant?

    They got rid of it.

    This isn’t a problem with policy or the actions of players. Its the fact salary cap DFS doesn’t have any moving parts. Someone can just give lineups out and anyone is capable of inputting them. Create a dynamic game and all these problems go away. DK/FD don’t want that though as it would kill their volume.

    Skyllzone has a valid solution IMO.

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