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  • whodat2

    When: January 28-31

    Where: San Diego, CA

    Course: Torrey Pines GC | A par 72 playing at 7698 yards

    Last Year’s Winner: Marc Leishman at -15

    Last Year’s Cut: -1

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  • BrianVT

    @Jeddy3 said...

    Man, I miss 70+ ties.

    No kidding. This alone changed DFS Golf success rates for me. Although, since we’re all in the same boat, you’d think it wouldn’t change anything, so maybe it’s just something I’m imagining.

  • lfn1992

    It is amazing how that simple decision T65+ties and T70+ties would have such a deep impact on DFG. I frequently have LUs that would have gotten to 6/6 under the old rules but are duds with T65+ties.

  • lfn1992

    @Kingspark35 said...

    I just find it strange that after you pick six guys you like, you then pivot away from them to guys you like less.

    I can understand why you would do so for lower salaries, where there is usually a far larger choice and they tend to be less reliable.

    Here is an example of a guarantee block, that you may find useful.

    1 x x x
    2 x x x
    3 x x x
    4 x x x
    5 x x x
    6 x x x

    This sequence really speaks to me and I pretty much fall in this camp. Wanted to expand a bit on your “after you pick six guys you like, you then pivot away from them to guys you like less”. I found this to be the case when coming up with my initial general player pool. I found myself asking the question “why am I going through so much trouble to cram in the golfer I like 25th best of a field of 150?”

    My answer ended up being “well, what if 25th favorite goes off?”

    Then I’d reply “well then he shouldn’t be your 25th favorite now, should he?”

    In any case, it taught me to be pretty tight with both my player pools and cores. I am a big fan of core patterns like you are describing and I’m sure I’ve done stuff like that before.

  • Kingspark35

    It seems to have squashed my example,

    The lines read. 1-2-3, 1-2-4, 3-4-5, 3-4-6,1-5-6, 2-5-6.

  • BrianVT

    @Kingspark35 said...

    It seems to have squashed my example,

    The lines read. 1-2-3, 1-2-4, 3-4-5, 3-4-6,1-5-6, 2-5-6.

    When I’m doing 150, I just let a lineup generator make all of those random combinations for me. What’s important to me in those is the % I’m targeting for each guy in my pool, and the % aggregate ownership projection of the lineup. If it weren’t golf, then I’d have to worry about who is in a lineup with who (QB and this WR not playing against this DEF), etc. I don’t have to put much thought into a lineup construction for golf. They are all very much the same position, and very much playing against each other.

    The cascading discussion is mainly just 20 LU contests with a tight-core strategy. Not much else to it. You might pivot to random guys you didn’t like because it’s golf, and someone always surprises, but that’s not part of the strategy. You also pivot to guys you like. Depends on salary.

  • Kingspark35

    @Kingspark35 said...

    Since they changed the cut rule from 70+ to 65+,

    I have been puting more emphasis on trying to get more 6/6, expecting a lower %.

    The way I look at it is, suppose you had entered 20 lus last week and 4 had 6/6 (20%).

    The overall 6/6 was very small, so you had lineup leverage !

    !

  • noddy

    Often times the golfers you don’t like do really well. Especially if you don’t play them. Am I the only one who will put a team in the 50 cent contest of golfers I don’t like that week and then watch it do better than many of my other lineups?

  • JH822547

    @noddy said...

    Often times the golfers you don’t like do really well. Especially if you don’t play them. Am I the only one who will put a team in the 50 cent contest of golfers I don’t like that week and then watch it do better than many of my other lineups?

    I usually have one line up which I call my fade train, with some of the high profile or chalk golfers that I’m otherwise fading.

    One time it finished 3rd in the mini-max.

  • BrianVT

    @noddy said...

    Often times the golfers you don’t like do really well. Especially if you don’t play them. Am I the only one who will put a team in the 50 cent contest of golfers I don’t like that week and then watch it do better than many of my other lineups?

    Yep, that’s the ‘ol PIG lineup. I still throw one in somewhere, usually just a small SE contest.

  • ifthethunder

    @JH822547 said...

    I usually have one line up which I call my fade train, with some of the high profile or chalk golfers that I’m otherwise fading.

    One time it finished 3rd in the mini-max.

    Jason Day fits this description for me this week. And I guess Marc Leishman will be the chalk?
    ~

  • lfn1992

    @noddy said...

    Often times the golfers you don’t like do really well. Especially if you don’t play them.

    If only I knew who those guys were every week – I would be rich!

  • ifthethunder

    Can we trust Charley Hoffman’s back this week?
    ~

  • timusbr

    @Kingspark35 said...

    I just find it strange that after you pick six guys you like, you then pivot away from them to guys you like less.

    well done.

    a different type of block using a “new” type of reasoning. Salary requirements must make the differentiation process a bit more time consuming.

  • JH822547

    @ifthethunder said...

    And I guess Marc Leishman will be the chalk?

    I heard Woodland given he’s priced on the past six month of form which you can pretty much throw out because he’s been reportedly playing through pain which he now says has gone away.

  • ifthethunder

    @timusbr said...

    well done.

    a different type of block using a “new” type of reasoning. Salary requirements must make the differentiation process a bit more time consuming.

    If it doesn’t consume your time, how much fun are you having?
    ~

  • Kingspark35

    @ifthethunder said...

    If it doesn’t consume your time, how much fun are you having?

    A spreadsheet and french white are my friends.

    It’s a copy and paste world.

    The hard part is when I have to think for myself.

    Heck, I like this idea so much, I might try it on the euro lol.

  • qatman

    It’s been an awful last few weeks for everything sports-related, but here’s my brief take on this week.

    OAD: Harris “Olde” English (not recommending or playing for DFS)
    Winner: Jon “Procul Hair” Rahm
    Fade: Rory “Dirty” McIlroy
    Sleeper: Russell “Sancta” (Knox)

  • MortalWombat

    Reed Spieth combo for maximum pain. Mix in a little Knox and voila, maybe they’ll reward me for all of the havoc they’ve wreaked on my lus over the last few years.

    Also Rob Bolton article about how well Aussies have done here and correlation with Australia Day.

  • MrBreeze

    @Money0227 said...

    I’m so torn with Cam Davis. He’s in one of the first groups off the tee Thursday on the North course. He could absolutely light it up. He’s also projected to be very highly owned. I’m fading him at the moment…but that will be touch and go (or maybe I just stray from my single bullet approach this week).

    I will be way over weight on Cam Smith, I agree you should make a stand with him, go for it or fade. I will be at 47% ownership.

    Come on in, the waters fine.

  • MrBreeze

    Here is a pic of my spread sheet I use to build line ups, I seem to end up with line ups I like better than when I use a generator. Tim & I spoke about this about 2 years ago, it gives me a lot of satisfaction building by hand.

    !Screen-Shot-2021-01-27-at-5-14-09-PM!

  • BIF

    @Money0227 said...

    What are the circumstances where they delay at all? Doubt we will have lightning to worry about.

    They had a crazy wind/rain storm delay there a few years back but otherwise lightning in the area or severe rainfall where greens/bunkers are unplayable is about it.

    Looks like temps are improving so frost delays which are very rare wont happen nor the hail that went through near by the other day.

  • BIF

    @BrianVT said...

    The cascading discussion is mainly just 20 LU contests with a tight-core strategy. Not much else to it. You might pivot to random guys you didn’t like because it’s golf, and someone always surprises, but that’s not part of the strategy. You also pivot to guys you like. Depends on salary.

    Not really a reply to Brian but moreso my thought on the cascading/ownership discussion.

    To avoid 80-100% ownership; I just do multiple cores of different guys (to play 40ish or more LU) and/or start bringing in double swaps to bring down the heavy ownership.

    It’s pretty rare anyone in a full field GPP is over 30-32% and often the highest is 25-28% so you can go 50-60% on your core and still be way over the field plus not get totally killed for 6/6 chances if one guy misses.

    Alternstively/Additionally, I’ll often play a couple bigger $ entry GPPs like the $33 single entry and $44 GPP with my core 6 guys so I have more dollars invested in that lineup then I’ll do more Double or Triple swaps even to lower the ownership but I still get paid well if the core or even 5/6 hit.

  • MonkeraiKnight

    Winner: Hovland over Burns
    Fade: Deki & Scott
    Sleepers: Glover, Vegas, Danny Lee

    4 Top 10s (1 win) in the two versions of the mini-max the last two weeks, hope my luck holds!

  • depalma13

    @BIF said...

    They had a crazy wind/rain storm delay there a few years back but otherwise lightning in the area or severe rainfall where greens/bunkers are unplayable is about it.

    Looks like temps are improving so frost delays which are very rare wont happen nor the hail that went through near by the other day.

    They are under a flash flood watch from Thursday Evening until Friday afternoon.

  • jdtrey

    Does Denny Mac make any sense this week or am I better off going with Vegas?

    The temps are still forecast to be the same they were all week and the rain is actually heavier than initially expected with the latest forecasts. Should be in the 55 degree range come tee times tomorrow and Friday so shouldn’t be any real weather issues but who the hell knows. (if the predictive models for the storm are accurate)

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