# TOOLS FORUM

• nicslim

The Extender (Team RG)

Hey everyone. We’re about to release an update to our Chrome browser extension for FanDuel that shows rake and overlay in the lobby (props to @nvalencia30 for her work on this). My question to all of you is – how do you calculate rake?

At first we calculated it as the percentage that the site takes from the total buy ins. For example, a \$10 buy in tournament with 100 entries and a \$900 prize pool would imply a 10% rake. The site takes \$100 (10%) of \$1000 in total buy ins.

However, we received feedback from some testers who thought the rake should be displayed as 11.11% – the amount that the site takes divided by the prize pool (\$100/\$900) and rounded to two decimal places. You can think of 11.11% as the ROI you would need on your \$9 contributed to the prize pool to break even.

Which percentage would you like to see and why?

Here’s a preview of the feature:

• MrFantasy

I’ve always calculated it as \$100 out of \$1000 in your example which is 10%.

• WeTheNorth

The “correct” rake formula = (Total Buyins – Total Payouts)/Total Payouts. This corresponds with your second formula.

• Barbarian

• ### RG Season Long Champion: NBA

I guess you can include any of the two percentages as long as you clearly explain how the % is calculated…

I personally always associated “rake” with the company’s commission as explained in wiki – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rake_(poker) … ROI to break even is “ROI to break even”… :)

• edro990

My perception of rake is the percentage of the buy in \$\$ the site keeps before turning over the balance to the prize pool. Therefore, in your scenario above, the rake would be 10%.

• britdevine

Its 10% here

• mjordantmac

• ### 2016 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

10% for me although I’ve seen the other way plenty of times

• catfish_tx

As a side note, would it be possible to add a feature to show the percentage of how many positions get paid? # payouts / # entries = cash %

• L3gOnD

Their rake is 10%. As a company they wouldn’t say we are making 11.11% on entries, nor is 11.11% of your entry fee going to them. The rake is 10%, as 10% of what you enter goes to the site. If I give you \$1, and you take 10 cents and then give me 90 cents back then I lost 10% of my transfer and you took 10% of what I gave you.

Another name for rake is takeout. It’s pretty clear to me that the answer is 10%.

Used in a sentence :-) … The sites are taking out 10% of the fees.

We’re talking takeout (10%) not implied ROI (11.11%).

• bringemvaught

10%

• mattyice522

But doesn’t that only apply if the contest fills up?

• UnregisteredUser

10%.

• DCoop328

10%

• deactivated84892

Didn’t deserve it’s own topic, but on a similar surface as this one. An add-on that shows what % of people in a contest get paid would be clutch. i.e: This GPP pays 21% of entries, etc.

• ocdobv

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• Ranked #25

• ### 2021 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

Show it as \$x + \$y, where x = amount going to prize pool and y = amount going to rake. Then no one has to be confused by the percentages.

• xBenJamminx

• ### Blogger of the Month

Good job nick!

• ihaveareputation

• x3

### 2016 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

10%, and +1 for the percentage of players paid suggestion. Thanks, Nic!

• nvalencia30

• x2

• ### 2015 FAWBC Finalist

An update on the voting totals:
10% – 10
11.11% – 2
Combo layout of the prize pool/rake – 1

We also had 3 requests to display what % of entrants will cash in a contest. I have had this same idea and hope to get this implemented soon.

@mattyice522 – Yes. It’s hard to see in the screenshot, but there’s also a FD overlay calculation that can be displayed by total dollar amount or percentage. We’ll be rolling out the overlay extension at the same time as the rake.