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  • pokerrob1970

    DraftDay BLB Finalist

    It was a very small slate and its only been one day, but did anyone notice the huge amount of ties? I was in a 100 man league and ended up tied for 8th with 7 people. All of us had different rosters. Guess we will see how it goes after a few days but with the new scoring i think this might be the norm.

  • ocdobv

    Right. The important part is that they are different, so that the final scores are not all the same.

  • purefilth

    2014 FD FFFC Finalist

    • 2014 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    huge oversight by fanduel just hope they address the problem sooner rather than later

  • tomac

    Lol @ backtested.

    There used to be 11 different potential scores between each whole number, not including the whole number.

    Now instead of having 13 potential scores between 30 and 31, you have two. This was a monumentally bad decision, which in this industry right now is quite the accomplishment.

  • ksnoke

    FanDuel did what they felt was best for their bottom line. The only way you can affect their thinking is to vote with your dollars.

  • thedude404

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    @tomac said...

    Lol @ backtested.

    There used to be 11 different potential scores between each whole number, not including the whole number.

    Now instead of having 13 potential scores between 30 and 31, you have two. This was a monumentally bad decision, which in this industry right now is quite the accomplishment.

    Agreed youu didnt even need to backtest this to know what would happen….looks like its dk baseball for me until they change it back……

  • meerkatmreow

    @tomac said...

    Now instead of having 13 potential scores between 30 and 31, you have two.

    You’re comparing a point range from before the change to 1/3 it’s equivalent in the new setup. A fairer comparison would be 4 potential scores between 30 and 33

  • srolleDFS

    don’t panic.

  • kdjac0434

    I don’t think the fractional points for IP are the problem. 1 point for 1/3 IP is the same as .33 before. Everything is multiples of 3 now so 1 = .33. There is no way for a hitter to get anything that isn’t a multiple of 3 (other than 0) The real problem is no fractional points for hitters.

  • timski83

    I tied for the win in a 20 person contest. Different lineups too. I think that was my first tie ever.
    I also am tired of the FD player scratch policy vs. the DK policy. I was able to change out Price on DK but not on FD. Having the ability to change out a scratched player made everything seem fair to me. Yet, on FD I had to just take it based on a lame company policy. Well hello DK. I am new on DK and think I will not be doing nearly as much fd until they change their policy on player scratches.

  • timski83

    Maybe FD needs a wake up call by the big players out there. Please to all the heavy hitters, big player who have a say, boycott some FD until they can change some of their policies which need to be changed anyways. I’m just a small fish. DK seems like such a more ethical company.

  • jsw3ent

    @jessedio said...

    The new FD scoring system is great. I love that you don’t get negative points for outs anymore (Last year you would most likely lose points if games went into extra innings, it was terrible). I like that DK got rid of negative points for being caught stealing too. Makes MLB more fun to watch and play.

    Different strokes—-but I disagree. Both sites FD/DK new scoring is insane. They gave in to the —everyone gets a trophy world we live in today. They are afraid they will hurt feelings by giving people negative/minus points. With the new scoring—-there is ZERO reason (WHEN YOU ARE OUT OF PLAYERS) to even watch the games or your lineups BECAUSE there is no way to move UP/DOWN in the money. They took away the sweat factor. They want everyone to tie for 1st.

  • ocdobv

    @jsw3ent said...

    Different strokes—-but I disagree. Both sites FD/DK new scoring is insane. They gave in to the —everyone gets a trophy world we live in today. They are afraid they will hurt feelings by giving people negative/minus points. With the new scoring—-there is ZERO reason to even watch the games or your lineups BECAUSE there is no way to move UP/DOWN in the money. They took away the sweat factor. They want everyone to tie for 1st.

    DK scoring is still great. They just took away -2 for a CS, which is not a big deal. No reason to lump them into this.

  • myb821

    @tomac said...

    Lol @ backtested.

    There used to be 11 different potential scores between each whole number, not including the whole number.

    Now instead of having 13 potential scores between 30 and 31, you have two. This was a monumentally bad decision, which in this industry right now is quite the accomplishment.

    Hi Tomac!

  • jsw3ent

    @ocdobv said...

    DK scoring is still great. They just took away -2 for a CS, which is not a big deal. No reason to lump them into this.

    If it was not going to be a big deal——then why make the change. They took away the minus scoring—-bad move IMO.

  • AWoo

    @csmaniac said...

    This scoring system sucks. There are more ties than ever!! In the $2 Squeeze for FULL SLATE

    3 entries tied for 7th
    6 entries tied for 10th
    5 entries tied for 22nd
    10 entries tied for 27th
    22 entries tied for 37th
    28 entries tied for 59th
    26 entries tied for 87th
    34 entries tied for 114th
    45 entries tied for 148th
    89 entries tied for 193rd
    98 entries tied for 282nd
    145 entries tied for 380th

    I can go on and on of which they become even bigger ties as you get to less points.

    The sad part is that most of these lines are vastly different but the no negative for outs and or factional points for pitching really really screws up everything. There needs to be a change

    CSM Da Gawd!

  • KevKev198622

    That CSM post is reason enough alone to withdraw and go to DK for now until Fanduel fixes something. Im canceling my FD MLB for 7pm and moving it to DK.

  • mannmicj

    The ties are brutal. As a competitor, no one likes a tie. Having a bunch of teams tied throughout a contest even though they have different lineups is just awful. This makes it even more difficult to differentiate yourself from the field.

    We play to WIN the game, not get a tie.

    Having fractional scoring is absolutely the best answer in DFS MLB (all sports for that matter). Please find a way to fix this and bring back fractional scoring. As they say, “if it ain’t broke, DON’T fix it.”

    Thank you.

  • jsw3ent

    ^^^^THIS^^^^—-plus now if you are out of players—-there is ZERO reason to keep watching——BECAUSE—there is ZERO way to move up in the money. The old scoring allowed you to move up as hitters made outs——you could move up literally hundreds of places when someone made an out. We need the previous years scoring back.——plus the.33 for pitchers . minus scoring and fractional scoring.

  • CUTiger81

    I hate the no negatives for outs.

  • csmaniac

    • 742

      RG Overall Ranking

    • Ranked #87

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    $2 Squeeze for Full Slate – 4/5

    2 entries tied for 4th
    8 entries tied for 6th
    8 entries tied for 22nd
    7 entries tied for 31st
    16 entries tied for 39th
    9 entries tied for 59th
    32 entries tied for 70th
    28 entries tied for 108
    41 entries tied for 145th
    51 entries tied for 193rd
    47 entries tied for 247th
    116 entries tied for 316th
    135 entries tied for 460th

    It just gets worse and worse dropping down to lower scores. Once again keep in mind these are all different lineups. Min cashing in the squeeze should be $5 but there’s about 600-700 people tied with a score of 150 who are all getting $1.87 and losing 13 cents. FD needs to step up and make some MAJOR changes and add fractional scoring back. It’s going to be really bad for qualifiers/satties and even their championships when 3-5 people tie for first. How will that look?

  • BmoreClutch

    There’s no point in playing on FD until they fix this mess.

    DFS needs fractional scoring. The fact that FD didn’t realize this or willingly ignored it is flat out stupid. And the sad part is the FD support/reps are adamant that no changes will be made this season.

  • 1971hof

    Moving my $5-$10 per night of action to Draftkings because of these ties. Fanduel won’t miss me anyways.

    Minimum cashing and losing $ will become the norm it seems.

  • semobb1993

    @csmaniac said...

    Min cashing in the squeeze should be $5 but there’s about 600-700 people tied with a score of 150 who are all getting $1.87 and losing 13 cents.

    Try 1,484 people. I guess that’s progress though. Yesterday it was over 2,100.

    We need to keep this thread on the top of the page until this gets remedied and more people start speaking out. Maybe once this thread gets to 50 pages or so someone will start paying attention.

    One of the sadder parts of this saga is this: If this had happened 2 years ago at this time, (hell, maybe even a year ago.) an FD rep would have been posting in this thread within hours of its creation. That alone wouldn’t guarantee a change, but at least we would know someone was listening. Nowadays, crickets… Just the stock BS response to a support ticket promising that “here at FanDuel, the customer experience is our number one priority,” and that “We will be sure to forward your concerns to the Product Operations team.”

    Sweet. Thanks.

    Maybe when the Slam and Squeeze drop to $50k on a full slate day and barely fill by lock, they’ll get the idea. As more states drop by the wayside, (Alabama next maybe?) FD better make sure the customers they have left are happy.

  • Slimdalineman

    I’m not a big player by any means but I sent a support ticket explain my issues with ties ( I tied over 1000 people with 168pts in 2$ gpp 2 days ago). I let fd know I will be trying other sites until scoring is differentiated some way.

  • MrMadness001

    I also sent a note to FD yesterday about the change in rules. Their response was they know a lot of people are unhappy with the change at the moment. They said it is in the Product teams hands now to make this change. I do appreciate their response but I would say unless they are seeing lots of other complaints like mine don’t expect it to change back anytime soon.

    I for one hope they change it back because I really enjoyed the old scoring system.

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