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  • Gregdelt11

    so this is my first post ever in a few years but I am legitimately bummed out about this
    I knew it was only a matter of days with how the Casino industry has blown up in Pennsylvania.
    anyone from Westmoreland County that can go give this guy a swift kick in the butt?

    http://abc27.com/2015/10/16/pennsylvania-considers-limiting-fantasy-sports-gambling/

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    As I said. Nothing moves quick. Hearing in November and no specifics on the Amendment. Not our last week.

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/cteeInfo/Index.cfm?CteeBody=H&Code=54

  • Heywood9855

    So this won’t vote until November?

  • Scott121422

    Knows the College Sportz

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    That’s how I am reading it!

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    Still. I’m getting a lether to Rep Dunbar and the Chairs of the Committee.

  • TheHoiPolloi

    Been lurking this board for a while. I feel that now is the right time to join the conversation given the recent developments. No need to panic or cash in all your FPP. It is going to be about a month before this all gets through the proper channels and takes effect most likely. We aren’t going to lose DFS in PA. The DFS companies are going to have to pay for a license though most likely. Everyone can relax. The Commonwealth just wants their cut, that’s all. Carry on…

  • Putz

    @Heywood9855 said...

    So this won’t vote until November?

    Good deal, bro. You have another month to play.

  • noddy

    @TheHoiPolloi said...

    Been lurking this board for a while. I feel that now is the right time to join the conversation given the recent developments. No need to panic or cash in all your FPP. It is going to be about a month before this all gets through the proper channels and takes effect most likely. We aren’t going to lose DFS in PA. The DFS companies are going to have to pay for a license though most likely. Everyone can relax. The Commonwealth just wants their cut, that’s all. Carry on…

    I so hope so.

  • hotpants

    @TheHoiPolloi said...

    We aren’t going to lose DFS in PA

    Great to hear, but let’s not start tallying fowl just yet…

  • First

    Wouldnt they then have to make online gambling legal in Pa in order to have dfs?

  • TheHoiPolloi

    The Commonwealth can find loopholes with anything, I’m sure.

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @First said...

    Wouldnt they then have to make online gambling legal in Pa in order to have dfs?

    Good point. And legalizing DFS in casinos only may violate Federal PASPA. This guy ain’t playing with a full deck.

  • noddy

    Are they voting to shut down DFS starting this Wednesday? If you live in PA won’t you be able to play starting Wednesday?

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @noddy said...

    Are they voting to shut down DFS starting this Wednesday? If you live in PA won’t you be able to play starting Wednesday?

    Remember boys and girls. This has multiple steps to go through up to the Governor’s signature. Right now our legislature can’t find its way out of a paper bag and there’s a ton of animosity. People who want gambling banned won’t go for Rep Dunbar’s proposal either and there are plenty of them in PA. I see this bill dying on Wednesday.

  • jross2021

    All these problems in Pennsylvania and they’re wasting their time trying to protect us from ourselves (aka padding the Casino pockets).

  • noddy

    @PJGuin23 said...

    Remember boys and girls. This has multiple steps to go through up to the Governor’s signature. Right now our legislature can’t find its way out of a paper bag and there’s a ton of animosity. People who want gambling banned won’t go for Rep Dunbar’s proposal either and there are plenty of them in PA. I see this bill dying on Wednesday.

    This is my favorite post EVER!!!

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @TheHoiPolloi said...

    Been lurking this board for a while. I feel that now is the right time to join the conversation given the recent developments. No need to panic or cash in all your FPP. It is going to be about a month before this all gets through the proper channels and takes effect most likely. We aren’t going to lose DFS in PA. The DFS companies are going to have to pay for a license though most likely. Everyone can relax. The Commonwealth just wants their cut, that’s all. Carry on…

    I’m thinking there will be this and a likely shotgun partnership with the local casinos. One idea, 20-30% of PA players rake to a casino? Maybe.

    Our legislature knows there’s money to be had. Hopefully they’re not stupid enough to f—k it up by keeping the entire pool intrastate.

  • TheHoiPolloi

    @PJGuin23 said...

    I’m thinking there will be this and a likely shotgun partnership with the local casinos. One idea, 20-30% of PA players rake to a casino? Maybe.

    Our legislature knows there’s money to be had. Hopefully they’re not stupid enough to f—k it up by keeping the entire pool intrastate.

    This is exactly it. Just think about all the money to be had, like he said. They aren’t going to outright “ban” DFS. That wouldn’t make sense. They’re going to find a way to get their piece of the pie and then it’s on to the next one. Things may change for DFS in PA behind the scenes, but to the player, you’re still gonna be able to go on business as usual most likely. This isn’t going to die on Wednesday, it’s just beginning. It just probably isn’t going to shake down the way a lot of paranoid people around here think it will, with the all out ban.

  • katho54

    This same Legislator introduced the same bill back in may and it never saw the light of day…So,I wouldnt worry about it

  • TheHoiPolloi

    @katho54 said...

    This same Legislator introduced the same bill back in may and it never saw the light of day…So,I wouldnt worry about it

    A LOT has gone on in the industry since May. This is going to be the new “normal” for DFS.

  • noddy

    @katho54 said...

    This same Legislator introduced the same bill back in may and it never saw the light of day…So,I wouldnt worry about it

    Ya I think things are a little different now, but hopefully you are right.

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @noddy said...

    Ya I think things are a little different now, but hopefully you are right.

    I think what’s going on in the background is a golden opportunity for PA and casinos to grab a piece of the pie which was their intent all along. PA is a gambling state. It loves sports anchored by Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. Truth be told, most legislators outside of Lancaster County also want sportsbook.

    There have been pushes for blanket bans in the past predominantly coming from a handful of Reps in Lancaster County and a few soccer mom-ish conservative Philadelphia suburban districts but those bills typically die in Committee quickly.

    I see this bill getting a little traction, but in the end going nowhere or drawn out for a while.

    I’m well aware of the pull Penn National has. But I’m also aware of the pull Comcast has. There will be a battle between them. The FSTA, FanDuel and DraftKings also have lobbying efforts in the state. I’m sure the VCs were well aware something like this could happen.

  • PittsburghPaymentPlan

    • 2014 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    So if they vote to “ban” DFS in Pittsburgh on Wednesday it will still have to go through other channels? It won’t be immediate like Nevada?

  • AtGame7

    @PittsburghPaymentPlan said...

    So if they vote to “ban” DFS in Pittsburgh on Wednesday it will still have to go through other channels? It won’t be immediate like Nevada?

    This is actually a good question. Despite what looks like educated comments from posters who I respect, can someone explain why Nevada happened so quickly (or did it?) and PA won’t?

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @AtGame7 said...

    This is actually a good question. Despite what looks like educated comments from posters who I respect, can someone explain why Nevada happened so quickly (or did it?) and PA won’t?

    PA has to be by Statute. As I harped on, our legislature is dysfunctional so that could take a lot of time or possibly not at all like the prior blanket ban attempts. NV was a unilateral decision by a Gaming Commish. And remember, that investigation was in the making for months. The steps PA residents should take are:

    1. Contact members of the House Gaming Committee. Flood Facebook pages as well.

    2. If it passes that Committee, contact your local House and Senators. Flood Facebook page.

    3. If it fails that, contact Governor Wolf and ask him to VETO the bill. Also flood his Facebook page.

  • TheHoiPolloi

    Good chance this is most likely going to be voted out of committee. I think there is a misunderstanding from a lot of the public here. They aren’t voting to ban DFS. They are voting to run DFS through the casinos, basically meaning they are going to partner up with DK and FD and get their cut and you could gain access to DFS via the casinos websites. We still are going to be able to play as normal, it’s just giving the state some added measure of regulation to it. It isn’t like the Commonwealth of PA will have their own DFS games run by Rivers Casino, etc. And, yes, legalizing online gaming is part of this vote also, obviously, given what they want to do.

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