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  • jon2anderson

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    How many full-time DFS players are on here? I’m curious as to how that works. How much money are you typically risking in a day? How do you disperse it between cash and tournaments? Isn’t that kinda scary? How consistently are you making significant amounts of money?

    I’m fascinated with full-timers (I have a job in IT that I like and pays well… and my girlfriend/family would dump me if I quit my job to play fantasy sports, but still), if anybody would like to mentor me that’d be a blast.

  • teachmehowtocutty

    Anybody that plays dfs full time during these times of uncertainty better have a backup plan. Even without the legal heat you need to have a 5 to 6 figure bankroll and play a significant amount of cash games to offset the multiple gpp lineups you would throw out there.

  • Killerclown

    are you winning daily? in order to make a living you would have to win consistently if ur not doing that now..than its not for you..

  • Killerclown

    i win all the time and use no math at all..u can use math to figure out percentages owned..its hilarious how i see alot of threads saying they are good at math..so what..good for you..,.so am i..but im not using it with this chit when its already broken down in analytics u can find all over the place..right here on rotogrinders for example.

  • Killerclown

    stop saying ur good at math people..ur not usuing it..if u are ur building ur own analytics from scratch..other than looking for percentages owned ur math..is done for u already on projections on most of these sites..

  • mansaofall

    Why are you posting back 2 back?

  • soonerdawg

    some people love to read what they have to say

  • TheRealJosh5

    @teachmehowtocutty said...

    Anybody that plays dfs full time during these times of uncertainty better have a backup plan. Even without the legal heat you need to have a 5 to 6 figure bankroll and play a significant amount of cash games to offset the multiple gpp lineups you would throw out there.

    It’s just like the poker boom.

  • Sizmik

    I see the “pros” lose all the time, in fact a lot of the known ones on this site aren’t any better at picking lineups than most of us, there’s actually a few that might still be in it just cause they enjoy it rather than be better at it than everyone….. but when you have the bankroll to throw down 500 LUs, your odds usually lead you to some huge wins and that perpetuates. If you are strictly making a living off of single entry cash games or heads up, that’s when I believe you truly are a “pro”…..playing the statistics with unlimited bank doesn’t make you a “pro” …when you enter that many lineups, you aren’t making better decisions than any other joe, you are just hoping you get lucky and one sticks….

  • WilliamPU2003

    agree with sizmik. thats what makes condia and maxdalury so overrated.

  • jimfred82

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    @WilliamPU2003 said...

    agree with sizmik. thats what makes condia and maxdalury so overrated.

    maybe. i still remember the days when i was playlng H2H’s though, and, as soon as I saw I was matched up with one of those guys, I had that “oh, great” feeling that I was for sure going to lose. I didn’t lose every time, but it was enough to give me that feel of dread, and that feeling didn’t come out of nowhere….

  • tgowen

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    @WilliamPU2003 said...

    agree with sizmik. thats what makes condia and maxdalury so overrated.

    In a H2H contest where you get to pick your opponent would you rather go against a guy like Condia/Max or some random name with a few hundred wins?

  • Shipmymoney

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    @Sizmik said...

    I see the “pros” lose all the time, in fact a lot of the known ones on this site aren’t any better at picking lineups than most of us, there’s actually a few that might still be in it just cause they enjoy it rather than be better at it than everyone….. but when you have the bankroll to throw down 500 LUs, your odds usually lead you to some huge wins and that perpetuates. If you are strictly making a living off of single entry cash games or heads up, that’s when I believe you truly are a “pro”…..playing the statistics with unlimited bank doesn’t make you a “pro” …when you enter that many lineups, you aren’t making better decisions than any other joe, you are just hoping you get lucky and one sticks….

    You obviously don’t multienter if you think its that easy

  • Bigo1

    Sizmik and williamPU got a platform to tell their bullshit. Doubt it was the purpose of the thread. If it is that easy guys, please do it.

  • NitroChaney

    @Sizmik said...

    I see the “pros” lose all the time, in fact a lot of the known ones on this site aren’t any better at picking lineups than most of us, there’s actually a few that might still be in it just cause they enjoy it rather than be better at it than everyone….. but when you have the bankroll to throw down 500 LUs, your odds usually lead you to some huge wins and that perpetuates. If you are strictly making a living off of single entry cash games or heads up, that’s when I believe you truly are a “pro”…..playing the statistics with unlimited bank doesn’t make you a “pro” …when you enter that many lineups, you aren’t making better decisions than any other joe, you are just hoping you get lucky and one sticks….

    Hit it on the head!

  • Shipmymoney

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    @NitroChaney said...

    Hit it on the head!

    I make a living mostly off of GPPs but I will gladly play either of you h2h if you think I don’t make better lineups than you just because I’m not a single entry player lol

  • walkoff9

    Anyone who thinks anyone makes money just off their bankroll and multi entry, go put 200 entries in the .25 gpp’s and share your results.

  • meerkatmreow

    @walkoff9 said...

    Anyone who thinks anyone makes money just off their bankroll and multi entry, go put 200 entries in the .25 gpp’s and share your results.

    Its the algorithms that create lineups for them that gives them the advantage. It’s not fair that Jesus Allah Zeus decided they could get the magic easy button to DFS riches.

  • Wrightime

    Here we go again . Why is it that people cant see the advantage of having 500-1000 lu, compared to say 4 or 5.. I would take my chances 99% of the time vs anyone .. Idc who they are

  • petteytheft89

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    I think a lot of the big lineup guys would like to play those who feel its a huge advantage to have more entries from a profitability standpoint.

  • Shipmymoney

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    @Wrightime said...

    Here we go again . Why is it that people cant see the advantage of having 500-1000 lu, compared to say 4 or 5.. I would take my chances 99% of the time vs anyone .. Idc who they are

    For me personally it’s because I do much better when play a hand full of lineups compared to when I enter 50+. Multi entering is a skill by itself. But people like to use it to make themselves feel better because they aren’t that good

  • jimmyrad

    @petteytheft89 said...

    I think a lot of the big lineup guys would like to play those who feel its a huge advantage to have more entries from a profitability standpoint.

    Yes. The reason they’re losing is because they aren’t firing off enough -EV lineups. Play moar

  • badlands92

    If someone wants to front me the cash to enter the max entries (250) and post my results, I’d be happy to. I’ll pay you back from the winnings. Please message me! :)

    The point is most people don’t have the money for ten LUs a night…bankroll really does dictate so much.

  • petteytheft89

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    How do you think people built bankrolls?

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    @badlands92 said...

    bankroll really does dictate so much.

    Repeating it over and over doesn’t make it more true. If most people played ten lineups a night instead of one, they would just lose their money 10x faster

  • badlands92

    @petteytheft89 said...

    How do you think people built bankrolls?

    For starters, money isn’t an issue for some people. Losing $200 a night is equivalent to losing $5 or $10 to the common man. So, I’m sure some players “built” it by hitting the deposit button.

    Heck, just yesterday a poster linked to a 3-man $1065 tourney where one of his opponents had Lebron in there. That’s a cool grand that he could part with without refreshing breaking news all the way to tip-off.

    Shipmymoney: I’m not saying most people would be successful with large bankrolls. Some (many?) lack the skills to be successful in the long run…self control, patience, focus, intelligence.

    I’m speaking more about the few of us who have put in the time and effort but simply can’t put forth $500 to enter 250 LUs with nearly every logical combination of players. Oftentimes my LUs hover either right inside or outside of the cash line. Last night I had three within 10 points in one contest. The ability to take the successful players from those LUs and add in the 2-3 I good ones I didn’t have in another 15-20 LU output…it would have made for a profitable night.

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