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  • whodat2

    When: February 15-18

    Where: Pacific Palisades, CA

    Course: Riviera CC | A par 71 playing at 7322 yards

    Last Year’s Winner: Dustin Johnson at -17

    Last Year’s Cut: Even

    Coverage: PGATourLive | Golf Channel | CBS

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  • dbullsfan

    • Ranked #69

      RG Tiered Ranking

    did anyone ever hear why JJ Spaun withdrew a couple weeks ago? I tried a quick google search and rotoworld but got the same reports of unknown injury. He has only played here once (MC) but was playing well this year before the WD

  • Quadhole

    @BIF said...

    KJ had good course history last week too

    Someone once told me that you make more money riding a streak than going against it

    How does that work with Reavie this week ? I am cautious.

  • Jeddy3

    JJ Spaun could be $64 and I’d still fade right now. So angry at him still.

    Edit: reluctantly that makes him a great gpp play. Still hate him.

  • Quadhole

    @hbomb57 said...

    Home after second heart attack second stent Friday night. Always pays to have a land line ambulance here in two minutes as usual. 40 year fitness nut but does not matter if your gene pool is bad. A nurse in ICU let me use her Iphone to check my scores over the weekend. All my LU’s went the same way as my heart. Off work for 5 days so can concentrate on making some money to pay for the Hospital Bill after Ins covers 90%.

    WOW, sorry, but glad you are OK. It really is a gene pool thing, had a good buddy lose his uncles, father, Brother, all before 50 years old. He was 37 at the time, 1999 and it happened to him right in his front year taking his 3 kids 10, 7,and 6 to chucky cheese on a Saturday morning.
    Glad modern meds. can help you… Keep a close eye and do those yearly checkups, etc.. Take care

    Barry

  • Quadhole

    @dbullsfan said...

    did anyone ever hear why JJ Spaun withdrew a couple weeks ago? I tried a quick google search and rotoworld but got the same reports of unknown injury. He has only played here once (MC) but was playing well this year before the WD

    No, and I am not trusting him. Think he boarders on a lot of little mental, injury, etc. things. In others words, when he plays, all MUST BE well in the world for him to do good, if not, he disconnects and that leads to problems… Him and Si woo…
    I hope they both start making all their starts with no WD. Hoffman is a risky play too.

  • BIF

    @BIF said...

    I put up some $5 H2H in the RG League Lobby if anyone wants a game

    Still a couple left

    Slpanthers24 may still be banned but he did grab one of my H2Hs in our RG League Lobby which will be good as I can chat with him over the DK contest chat platform.

  • dangasin

    a4u70 is a really lazy bonus. Doesnt even account for different course par

  • Quadhole

    Harkins, Someone mentioned the weeks in a row. I thought he was much younger than 31. Pebble was more of a home field advantage for him. Wonder how many times he has played here ? If anyone knows please post. I thought he was more a young up and comer, but as it is, took him years to get up here. The difference in that, if young, playing on tight talent vs older type has to work harder. Making me back off a little on him this week. Any thoughts, he is the GREAT scorer that is super low priced…

  • fourseasons

    @Jeddy3 said...

    Adam Scott at 7400 is so tempting even with how bad he has been.

    Scott’s form is not just awful, it’s pathetic for the elite golfer he’s been over last several years. From Oct. 2015, for example, he didn’t miss a cut until March 30, 2017 at Houston Open, resulting in 10 top -10s and 2 victories, together with several 2nd place finishes. If rostering him, recommend not using him in your core nor using Scott and Bubba in same LU. On the other hand, their volatility together could pay dividends, although Bubba’s form is better than Scott’s.

  • BIF

    @walkoff9 said...

    DJ is way under priced this week. Should be AT LEAST 1k higher than anyone else. Not only does he have the ridiculous course history, but nobody else at the top has anything special at all.

    It’s a Rory week and at about 6% ownership after last week’s very public missed cut and putting woes.

  • BIF

    @nicholasmarsh said...

    Man, you guys really beat up that list I posted so I won’t make that mistake again. If you guys think that I use that list and only that list to create lineups, I must have ZERO “street (forum) cred”. Sigh… I suppose nobody read the first, most important, line of that post? Of course I know that Sang-Moon Bae doesn’t have as good of a chance to win as DJ does.

    I can probably manipulate that data to favor anyone you guys like. I tried to caveat that the list was “potentially useless” but that, apparently, fell on deaf ears. I’ll crawl back into my hole now…

    EDIT: I will say that dangasin mentioned using a median approach as opposed to mean so I’ll give that a whirl. Thanks for the recommendation.

    No worries bud, keep posting and don’t stop – every piece of info is valuable; I just think a few didn’t easily see what it was based on so the integrity of the data was called into question then it spiralled from there. Everyone uses info in different ways and I honestly had never looked at it that way – I also try not to look at the Google sheet until I’ve at least narrowed my pool down to about 25-30 guys. Then I’ll use the sheet to drop a few more off and very rarely add one guy.

  • rysportguy

    @fourseasons said...

    Scott’s form is not just awful, it’s pathetic for the elite golfer he’s been over last several years. From Oct. 2015, for example, he didn’t miss a cut until March 30, 2017 at Houston Open, resulting in 10 top -10s and 2 victories, together with several 2nd place finishes. If rostering him, recommend not using him in your core nor using Scott and Bubba in same LU. On the other hand, their volatility together could pay dividends, although Bubba’s form is better than Scott’s.

    Am I missing something on Scott? I LOVE him at this price. All I see is one really bad round. He finished under par 2 of the 3 rounds and if you look at his performance statistics he is elite in everything besides putting.

  • fourseasons

    @Jeddy3 said...

    Chez has to be getting tired, right?

    Chez said in an interview after Pebble that he’s tracking both his mental and physical health this year, which shows in his play, in order to improve his game. He missed the cut at WMPO, for example, two years previously he says because his kids were getting sick doing the event and he was spending time at hospitals. Playing the home course not always good for a pro’s golf game. This year, he didn’t have to contend with family medical emergencies.

  • dangasin

    Dk refuses to move chez price. I swear he is always around 8000 give or take

  • BIF

    @dangasin said...

    i get that course history may or may not be useful, but what else explains DJ pure dominance at this event over the past decade?

    Some courses more easily succumb to the Power Game that many young stars have; I never really thought Riviera was that susceptible to that approach as Tiger never won here and had almost as many MCs as Top 10’s but more recently we have seen guys who I would consider power guys win here like DJ, Bubba and Phil. DJ to a lesser extent, but Phil and Bubba are probably two of the most creative shotmakers in the game and see things others don’t. Besides these power winners, Riviera has yielded wins to great putters Baddeley and Pavin twice and also to great ballstrikers like Adam Scott and Mike Weir twice (both have since declined but were the best at the time).

    So Riviera is a bit of a mystery from year to year as to what works – I was shocked to see that DJ hit so few fairways last year here as that is usually needed to hit greens and spin the ball.

  • dbullsfan

    • Ranked #69

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    @rysportguy said...

    Am I missing something on Scott? I LOVE him at this price. All I see is one really bad round. He finished under par 2 of the 3 rounds and if you look at his performance statistics he is elite in everything besides putting.

    yea I get he has missed a couple cuts in a row but I’m not making the same mistake twice in a row like I did with Rafa last week. Last week Rafa was playing well coming in but had bad CH, this week Scott isn’t playing great coming in but has great CH and the common theme is they are both world class golfers and you can argue Scott at his peak is better than Rafa although Rafa playing better of late I don’t think the gap in OWGR shows how close they are. Scott would be a tough fade at 8K let alone in the low 7K range.

  • Quadhole

    @dangasin said...

    DJ took 1st and 4th here the past 2 years, 60% top 5 in the past 10 years, and is ranked worse than Sangmoon Bae. Did smartgolfbets even look at this before posting?

    Don’t stop posting your lists, please, no one I think was pointing out bad, just devils advocate to everyone, thus, keeps everyone thinking… I really like when you do it.

  • dangasin

    Adam scott has been playing poorly for at least 7 months

  • BIF

    @lfn1992 said...

    DJ did not close great at Pebble. Is that of concern to anyone?

    It doesn’t take much at Pebble to bring you back down to earth; tiny firm greens and a bit of wind on Sunday meant that if you didn’t have your A game for approaches or chipping/putting it was going to show. Pebble is not a course you can over power unless it is playing soft and in calmer conditions.

    I’m not too worried about DJ but he definitely didn’t have his A game all weekend; not just Sunday.

  • BIF

    @dangasin said...

    a4u70 is a really lazy bonus. Doesnt even account for different course par

    Same for everyone though in that given event but kinda agree

  • GaryScott59

    Looking at body language and facial expressions from last week. Mickelson is hitting it straight, his swing looks more compact, putting well and is confident in his game. He will be my highest owned at about 50%. No. I am not a fan but he looks better than anytime in the last several years.

    Reavie has to be worn out and he made no birdies and one bogey on the back nine Sunday so he will get about 10% here. DJ is hard to fade but going to partake lightly this week. His last round was a puzzler.

    Rory? Who knows what he will do? Staying away for the most part. Gonna guess that we see some unlikely and low owned players in the top 20.

  • Jamcclea

    @BIF said...

    Still a couple left

    Slpanthers24 may still be banned but he did grab one of my H2Hs in our RG League Lobby which will be good as I can chat with him over the DK contest chat platform.

    Panthers! Miss that guy. I sent you guys an invite to a 3 player

  • astauty

    sounds like people scared of Reavie. i’ll keep rolling with him.

  • Jamcclea

    @BIF said...

    Some courses more easily succumb to the Power Game that many young stars have; I never really thought Riviera was that susceptible to that approach as Tiger never won here and had almost as many MCs as Top 10’s but more recently we have seen guys who I would consider power guys win here like DJ, Bubba and Phil. DJ to a lesser extent, but Phil and Bubba are probably two of the most creative shotmakers in the game and see things others don’t. Besides these power winners, Riviera has yielded wins to great putters Baddeley and Pavin twice and also to great ballstrikers like Adam Scott and Mike Weir twice (both have since declined but were the best at the time).

    So Riviera is a bit of a mystery from year to year as to what works – I was shocked to see that DJ hit so few fairways last year here as that is usually needed to hit greens and spin the ball.

    Is there a correlation for left handed hitters? Interesting Phil, Bubba and Weir have all had success here. Does this course correlate to Augusta in any way?

  • deepfat

    At first glance Tiger, Schniederjans, and Fleetwood jump out with nice Vegas values. Tiger’s ability to scramble might serve him really well this week.

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