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  • gourownway

    Looks like California might be one of the next states to look into DFS. Marc Levine out of the 10th district seems to be leading the charge: http://asmdc.org/members/a10/newsroom/news/kartje-new-york-rules-daily-fantasy-sports-illegal-california-legislator-pushes-for-similar-ruling

    Heard it on the local radio news station in Los Angeles this morning.

  • tyrant1014

    Highly doubtful that anything happens, the AG in california has bigger issues to worry about, and really as long as it isn’t about limiting peoples guns. California more or less lets it’s citizens do whatever they want.

    It will take a while before it is even considered without the attorney general getting involved.

  • ljason8eg

    A quick Google search shows Levine is a special kind of crazy. He’s also talked about introducing a bill which would allow people to take selfies with their marked election ballots and and another bill that would require all Californians to vote or face some sort of penalty.

    Legitimately crazy. Amazing these fools get elected.

  • BobGrinder

    You do have legislation in the works though.

    http://www.legalsportsreport.com/3776/dfs-california-bill-requires-license-regulation/

  • mellofellowsu

    Seems like politicians in every state are racing to be the ones to attach their names to banning DFS. It’s like calling dibs on the hot button issue right now.

  • chronoxiong

    Heck no! California has other stuff to worry about more. Not DFS.

  • Truufinator

    I received the emails from FD and DK about California being next on the chopping block and signed the petition. This is some BS. I can’t believe it. No one is getting hurt playing DFS. No one is getting “fleeced”. I moved from Texas to California believing this is a more progressive state and now it looks like Texas may be one of the last states to allow it.

  • charger4life

    anyone in the Santa Barbara area of CA?

  • AShayne

    This is where our taxes go? SMH

  • depalma13

    When you elect stupid people, you are governed by stupid people.

  • deactivated15730

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  • sharksfansd

    I already signed the letter that FanDuel sent via email this evening and will spend time this weekend sending out additional letters to Governor Brown and AG Harris.

    Also, probably a good idea to send off a msg to the sports leagues. I am sure it didn’t equate too much in the grand scheme of things, but I sent off a tweet to the main NHL, MLB, and NFL Twitter accounts letting them know I watched more sports this year than any year due to DFS. And I am very low volume/low stakes player.

  • gourownway

    Was thinking about sending off a few letters myself. Guess that’s what I will be doing this weekend in addition to DFS.

  • crowntheirasses

    I listened to this (link below) on KCRW last night. I find it interesting that in CA it doesn’t seem to matter whether DFS is considered a game of skill or gambling.

    http://www.kcrw.com/news-culture/shows/which-way-la/the-future-of-daily-fantasy-sports-in-california

    The end game of all of this seems DFS is headed for heavy regulation, if it continues to exist at all. This will likely come with a significantly increased rake to cover the costs of dealing with regulation and legal fees the DFS companies will bear. If/when that happens, the game will be largely unbeatable.

    It’s a shame, but having been in the finance industry, I witnessed firsthand a couple of bubbles popping, so this comes as no surprise. The greed underpinning the industry was a harbinger of it’s ultimate downfall.

    Sadly, politicians will continue to try and legislate morality, unable to grasp that it’s impossible to do so.

  • Olhausen

    @tyrant1014 said...

    Highly doubtful that anything happens, the AG in california has bigger issues to worry about, and really as long as it isn’t about limiting peoples guns. California more or less lets it’s citizens do whatever they want.

    It will take a while before it is even considered without the attorney general getting involved.

    I’m pretty sure people were saying the same thing about New York when rumors started that the state was next.

  • sharksfansd

    Well a +1 for CA DFS, as my Assemblyman’s office replied back to my letter with this: “Thank you very much for your email regarding your opposition to a potential bill being proposed to ban fantasy sports. I want to let you know that Assemblymember Brian Maienschein does not support legislation that would ban fantasy sports.”

    I also sent off a letter to Governor Brown and AG Harris, so I will be curious to see what, if any, response I get back.

  • lolrice

    thanks for the update sharksfan

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    @crowntheirasses said...

    The end game of all of this seems DFS is headed for heavy regulation, if it continues to exist at all. This will likely come with a significantly increased rake to cover the costs of dealing with regulation and legal fees the DFS companies will bear. If/when that happens, the game will be largely unbeatable.

    Regulation would be the best thing to happen to the industry provided it is done reasonably and responsibly by states governments which is admittedly a risky proposition. However, lets keep in mind that DFS sites currently operate by paying out affiliate partners 20-40% of their profits. Not everyone is on an affiliate model but sites pay out huge chunks of coin every month to affiliate partners, affiliate mills, basically every tout who has a twitter account,podcast,etc and doles out advice to make you the winning player you know you are. These affiliate payments could simply be shut down and that coin could easily cover any state regulation/registration fees. Also, lets keep in mind any half way intelligent politician or state government could perhaps take the time to figure out what would generate the most tax revenue for their state and pricing out DFS sites from doing business through excessive taxes, registration fees, etc would limit the states ability to profit from DFS. I wholly understand that the previously mentioned rationale is a tremendous amount to ask of politicians and modern government in general but all it takes is one state to broker a deal that is fair for all parties involved and it creates a blueprint that not only allows regulation but generates revenue for states that really need it and Cali is certainly one of them. The deeper issue at work here is the astounding greed and hypocrisy of certain states that want to create a monopoly for their established gambling outlets (casinos,lotteries,racetracks) while attempting to ban DFS all while at the same time spouting off about protecting the common man from the inherent evils of gambling. Just tremendous nonsense and hypocrisy fueled by political agendas, incompetent media outlets and an apathetic public too busy checking their smart phones to realize their basic freedoms are being slowly stolen from them.

  • mellofellowsu

    @crowntheirasses said...

    The end game of all of this seems DFS is headed for heavy regulation, if it continues to exist at all. This will likely come with a significantly increased rake to cover the costs of dealing with regulation and legal fees the DFS companies will bear. If/when that happens, the game will be largely unbeatable.

    Unbeatable? I don’t care. As a GPP player I don’t expect to turn a profit anyway. I lose money every day. I play for the entertainment factor, and the dream of hitting the big one. I grind at work every day, I don’t need to grind at my hobby as well. I know everyone doesn’t feel that way, and I’m sorry for you guys. I just want it here, I’ve come to terms with the fact that it would be different.

    I’m listening to ESPN radio right now and Steve Mason, Marcellus Willey and Max Kellerman are all talking about this and are pissed at the thought of this getting shut down. I know they’re serious because they talk on the radio about how they did on DK every week. Wiley says he already sent his letter to the AG. We need more public personalities would speak up and stick up for DFS. FD/DK needs to also reach out to these types of people.

  • sharksfansd

    @lolrice said...

    thanks for the update sharksfan

    You’re welcome.

    Here is a response I received today from my CA State Senator that represents my area in Sacramento. Apparently he has not taken a position thus far and most of the response is probably a shell for most inquiries:

    “Thank you for contacting me regarding fantasy sports in California. I appreciate the opportunity to hear your views on this issue.

    I will absolutely keep your opinion in mind should this issue come before me for a vote in the state senate.

    California is better served when people like you take the time to make sure we have adequate information on the issues. An informed and engaged citizenry is important to effective government in our Golden State.

    Once again, thank you for taking the time to make sure I understand your opinion. It is very important that I understand your views.”

  • sharksfansd

    @mellofellowsu said...

    Unbeatable? I don’t care. As a GPP player I don’t expect to turn a profit anyway. I lose money every day. I play for the entertainment factor, and the dream of hitting the big one. I grind at work every day, I don’t need to grind at my hobby as well. I know everyone doesn’t feel that way, and I’m sorry for you guys. I just want it here, I’ve come to terms with the fact that it would be different.

    I am in the same boat. Only play for fun, low stakes, low volume, and not all that great. However, when nearly all the poker sites went black I really wound up missing it, so I definitely don’t want DFS to go down the same road.

    I am for reasonable regulation if it makes sense and keeps the doors open.

  • tyrant1014

    @Olhausen said...

    I’m pretty sure people were saying the same thing about New York when rumors started that the state was next.

    The difference here is that the AG isn’t getting involved in the same fashion as NY. Basically it’s a crackpot elected official trying to piggyback. Regardless of the situation south of me (live about 150 miles north of Sac) I will still write letters and sign petitions, but I just don’t see it going the same way as NY.

  • SkateFiend

    @tyrant1014 said...

    Highly doubtful that anything happens, the AG in california has bigger issues to worry about, and really as long as it isn’t about limiting peoples guns. California more or less lets it’s citizens do whatever they want.

    It will take a while before it is even considered without the attorney general getting involved.

    California a is certifiable nanny state. LA banned plastic bags a few years ago and is following national trends on banning vaping on public grounds. You might remember that SF halfheartedly considered banning circumcision. A foie gras ban and a requirement on sushi chefs to wear gloves were recently overturned.

    The list could go on. Considering its political climate, CA is the next logical battleground for DFS. If people can’t play DFS at CA and NY, the industry will take a huge hit.

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