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  • whodat2

    When: March 29 – April 1

    Where: Humble, Texas

    Course: Golf Club of Houston | A Par 72 playing at 7441 yards.

    Last Year’s Winner: Ian Poulter at -19

    Last Year’s Cut: -3

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  • BrianVT

    I think I’m going back to not playing the highest price golfer again, so no Stenson this week. Only broke that theory with Brooks this past weekend, which was obviously a mistake. Here’s the last 4 highest price golfers:

    Koepka – $11,700 – MC
    JT – $11,600 – T4 – not a bad finish, but still wasn’t needed for high DFS finish
    Niemann – $11,300 – T54
    Bryson – $11,100 – MC

  • BIF

    More on overaeeding for those that want to know – not my words below as I just grabbed it from an article

    In golf, “overseeding” refers to a maintenance process on golf courses in which grass seed is spread on top of the existing grass to promote new growth or to swap out seasonal turfs, replacing one type of grass with another.

    Overseeding is most commonly done by courses that use bermudagrass, which goes dormant during winter months. In the fall, a bermudagrass golf course overseeds with, for example, ryegrass seed on top of the bermudagrass. Then, as the bermudagrass is going dormant for the winter, the ryegrass grows in.

    In spring, the process is reversed: Bermudagrass seed is put down on top of the ryegrass, switching the course’s turf back to bermuda.

    (Bermuda and rye are used as examples because the overseeding of those turfgrasses in partnership is fairly common. Various types of grasses might be involved in overseeding, but the process is most commonly used to switch a golf course over from a warm-season grass to a cool-season grass, and back again.)

    Overseeding thus keeps a growing turfgrass available for golfers to play on.

    Aesthetics of Overseeding
    It should be noted, however, that some types of golf course grasses are still perfectly playable even when dormant. Those dormant grasses turn brown or tan in color, however—they look dead, in other words, even though they aren’t—and many golfers and golf course staffs don’t like the cosmetics of brown putting greens.

    Some golf courses overseed the tees, fairways, and greens while leaving the grass in the rough alone, which goes dormant. This can actually create a great cosmetic appearance with the color of the green playing surfaces really popping in juxtaposition to the brown, dormant rough.

    Another article specifically about overseeing in Houston area

    https://www.chron.com/sports/golf/article/Courses-must-determine-the-value-of-overseeding-2074049.php

  • BrianVT

    Any takers on Rafael Campos at $6500? Has a 7 and T38 here, and finished T33, T61, and MC in his three tournies this season. With the demand for a 6/6, those seem like pretty good odds to make the cut for a $6500 player in a weaker field.

  • mogan11

    I’m planning on being there Friday, but the rain and the field have me less excited about it than years past. I’ll probably still go as it will be the last year at this course, and I doubt the crowds will be very heavy (unlike next year when they move it to memorial).

  • Money0227

    Is Lanto going to be the highest owned player? I’ll probably just eat the chalk with him (since I’ve only been going single bullet).

  • wigg_ESEA

    @Money0227 said...

    Is Lanto going to be the highest owned player? I’ll probably just eat the chalk with him (since I’ve only been going single bullet).

    Aaron wise flashbacks for me too soon

  • Dunzor

    @Money0227 said...

    Is Lanto going to be the highest owned player? I’ll probably just eat the chalk with him (since I’ve only been going single bullet).

    That just feels wrong to me if he’s chalk so I’ll probably continue to fade hoping his putting comes back to earth

  • dangasin

    Doc redman seems like a decent deal at 7200

  • Money0227

    @Dunzor said...

    That just feels wrong to me if he’s chalk so I’ll probably continue to fade hoping his putting comes back to earth

    Well…I think he’s clearly the most under priced player. I’ve pretty much locked in Stenson, Griffin and Redman. Now it’s just a matter of figuring out the other 3.

  • BIF

    @mogan11 said...

    I’m planning on being there Friday, but the rain and the field have me less excited about it than years past. I’ll probably still go as it will be the last year at this course, and I doubt the crowds will be very heavy (unlike next year when they move it to memorial).

    I’ve been to this event twice – I’ve always enjoyed it as one of my more favourite events that I’ve attended. Watch out for snakes in the ditches between some holes – wasn’t expecting that when I was there but saw a couple.

    I always hated that #9 didn’t come back anywhere near the clubhouse and I always felt it was a long walk if you were to walk all 18 – right off the bat, the long walk from 1 green to 2 tee – you get there and are pumped to watch golf and then have that walk from 1 to 2 and the only other holes that are nearby 17 & 18 are empty as nobody is on them yet.

    One year I was there and it was a hot day and we just sat on 17 in the bleachers for about 2 hours drinking frozen margaritas – saw Mickelson win in 2011; I was there for the NCAA Final Four and went to the golf on Sunday.

    There are some good tough holes on the far end of the property – I also played there once about 10 years ago when it was still Redstone CC

    I didn’t realize it was moving to Memorial – I’m assuming that is a good course ?

  • mogan11

    @BIF said...

    I didn’t realize it was moving to Memorial – I’m assuming that is a good course ?

    Probably one of the nicest munis I’ve ever played, and definitely the most crowded. They (Tom Doak) have been renovating/redesigning it for the past year+ and should be close to opening it back up to the public. Koepka has also been involved, so I assume he will play next year.

    It is much closer to downtown than golf club of Houston, and with it being a third of the price to play, everyone that golfs in Houston has played memorial at least once. I’ll probably play it with my group a couple of times before the tournament next year, but it will be a zoo once it re-opens, and I would assume bigger crowds for the tournament as well.

  • lfn1992

    I see Rory Sabbs in the Italian Open

  • superstars92

    Stenson is just a way better player than anyone in this field. But the thing I’m sure if I choose him, he’ll just hit every approach to 7 feet and miss every single putt on a birdie fest…if I don’t choose him, he’ll make all those putts.

  • BIF

    @mogan11 said...

    Probably one of the nicest munis I’ve ever played, and definitely the most crowded. They (Tom Doak) have been renovating/redesigning it for the past year+ and should be close to opening it back up to the public. Koepka has also been involved, so I assume he will play next year.

    It is much closer to downtown than golf club of Houston, and with it being a third of the price to play, everyone that golfs in Houston has played memorial at least once. I’ll probably play it with my group a couple of times before the tournament next year, but it will be a zoo once it re-opens, and I would assume bigger crowds for the tournament as well.

    Thanks

  • cjousma

    Cheap Whacks is up -> https://rotogrinders.com/blog-posts/cheap-whacks-houston-open-italian-open-3148302

    I personally dont think you have to pay up for the guys in the Houston Open. Russell Henley is the only guy I like over 10K.

    Francesco going to be chalk city at the Italian Open but I think you have to eat the chalk similar to Rahm last week in Spain.

  • BrianVT

    Lanto appears to be highest ownership, followed by Stenson, Scheffler, Tringale, Henley, Berger, Munoz. Go overweight at your own risk.

  • timusbr

    @superstars92 said...

    Stenson is just a way better player than anyone in this field. But the thing I’m sure if I choose him, he’ll just hit every approach to 7 feet and miss every single putt on a birdie fest…if I don’t choose him, he’ll make all those putts.

    It is an interesting dilemma. He has played sparingly after a pretty pathetic year for him. His 3 most recent events have been pretty good. 3weeks ago the British masters a 17th place, a third in the Scandanavia invit and a 4th in the Scottish Open.

    a good course history but also with a pattern of great finish ok finish grat finish ok finish. This year would be OK if trend continued. His stat strength has been GIR and putting. Which are 2 key areas for the course.

    Finally $11400 is a bit much 2019 Feded rk = 90 OWGR = 37 Euro RdtoDubai = 33
    so even with what appears to be a bad year for him he was still able to make minimum qualifications for most of the PGA/Euro coveted starts for 2020.

    So to Stenson or not to Stenson, that is a big question

  • Kingspark35

    @BrianVT said...

    Lanto appears to be highest ownership, followed by Stenson, Scheffler, Tringale, Henley, Berger, Munoz. Go overweight at your own risk.

    It’s early yet.

    My selections will be influenced by later ownership projections.

  • superstars92

    @timusbr said...

    His stat strength has been GIR and putting

    You sure his putting is his strength? I would imagine he’s amazing at driving accuracy, SG: Approach, and GIR and absolutely garbage at putting.

  • superstars92

    Keegan Bradley might be chalky right? It’s just weird he would normally be 10k in a field like this.

  • superstars92

    Lol Henley is seriously 5/5 top 10s and a win in this event last 5 years? Wow dang…and to add to that, those fields were tougher.

    I just remembered a year where he somehow caught Sung Kang for the win in an amazing comeback, but didn’t realize his CH was like Luke Donald (+ a win) at RBC.

  • Kingspark35

    @superstars92 said...

    Lol Henley is seriously 5/5 top 10s and a win in this event last 5 years? Wow dang…and to add to that, those fields were tougher.

    I just remembered a year where he somehow caught Sung Kang for the win in an amazing comeback, but didn’t realize his CH was like Luke Donald (+ a win) at RBC.

    Do you think Henley is good value?

    I don’t.

  • lfn1992

    @cjousma said...

    Cheap Whacks is up -> https://rotogrinders.com/blog-posts/cheap-whacks-houston-open-italian-open-3148302

    I personally dont think you have to pay up for the guys in the Houston Open. Russell Henley is the only guy I like over 10K.

    Francesco going to be chalk city at the Italian Open but I think you have to eat the chalk similar to Rahm last week in Spain.

    Nice pick of JSB for EURO. He is definitely on my radar in that price range.

    I’m also going to Guerrier again

  • BrianVT

    @superstars92 said...

    Keegan Bradley might be chalky right? It’s just weird he would normally be 10k in a field like this.

    Probably in the 12-15% range

  • dangasin

    Henley course history sounds like a prime candidate for MC

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