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  • tamparoor

    i play in all kinds of contest from gpp to single entry to 50/50 to 25cent contest and i have already noticed the same players win all the money in all those contest every night chiplotteaddict, papa gates, ehafner, scout, condria, i mostly play nba and it seems no matter how good my team does its not good enough to win any kind of money if I’m lucky and score 340 points on fan duel i might make my money back , what is the point of a average player like myself to continue playing i mean it makes the games more fun to watch but when u pick anthony davis and he is only owned by 7percent of people in my contest and he scores 100 points on fan duel and i still don’t make the moneyline whats the point? i know u will say play more single entries to avoid the sharks it does not matter because the last single entry i entered the top 8 players all had same exact lineup and same profile pic, can someone give me a good reason to waste another dollar on these sites?

  • S7ubs

    Play the casual or beginner level games. If those don’t interest you, quit dfs. You obviously have flaws in your process.

  • Phinsfan83

    Yea basketball is especially bad for this. Usually everyone is one the same value and it leads to a lot of the same/similar lineups especially on the small slates. I have been playing for years and typically come out ahead. Its all about research to find a site you like and a process for picking value and players that works for you. Not just pressing the + next to a guys name because you like them. Just have to find the game and site (sport specific) you do best at. Like Baseball I suck at DK but do very well on FD.

  • Bigo1

    You need to take a step back. Like everything in life, winning money playing DFS is not easy. The people you see at the top of your contests all spend 8-10h a day, and I doubt their RoI is over 7/10% (some might not be profitable anymore).

    So if your sole goal playing DFS is to make money, and you do not have the time to compete at high levels, you might be better off to stop.

    However, I have a feeling you might enjoy DFS as a pure entertainment product. If so, keep playing low stakes. Nights like your AD 7% owned will happen and this is frustrating, but there will be other nights when you cash some good amounts and did not even realise you would be in the money.

  • billholler

    Welcome back to whoever you are/were on your other Rotogrinders ID.

  • Vitricate

    @S7ubs said...

    Play the casual or beginner level games. If those don’t interest you, quit dfs. You obviously have flaws in your process.

    This. How do think those guys “Win all the Money”? They are experienced and obviously have research methods that give them the knowledge to make the right picks and win. If you have issues winning then you need to become better. The point of DFS is to entertain you, you don’t just hop in and make millions this isn’t some sort of money printer. Play smaller amounts of money and focus on making your process more consistent. You will start doing better the more time you put into it, you have to be willing to learn. Every time you have a losing lineup you need to see what you could’ve done better. Compare your lineup and salary distribution to your competitors and you will start learning what moves to make and start replicating them night to night. Those people that you have listed have been playing for years, DFS at its core is skill based so obviously they are going to be finishing ahead of you most of the time until you catch up to their knowledge of the game. Do better research and make lineups correctly and you will start seeing consistent results.

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    @tamparoor said...

    i know u will say play more single entries to avoid the sharks it does not matter because the last single entry i entered the top 8 players all had same exact lineup and same profile pic, can someone give me a good reason to waste another dollar on these sites?

    Tamparoor, can you share the link to this contest?

  • crazymac007

    I fill your pain but until you put in the work expect the same result.You might try some of the RG tools this will help if your willing to go the extra mile.Understand a couple of years ago i was were you are

  • mellofellowsu

    @tamparoor said...

    i play in all kinds of contest from gpp to single entry to 50/50 to 25cent contest and i have already noticed the same players win all the money in all those contest every night chiplotteaddict, papa gates, ehafner, scout, condria, i mostly play nba and it seems no matter how good my team does its not good enough to win any kind of money if I’m lucky and score 340 points on fan duel i might make my money back , what is the point of a average player like myself to continue playing i mean it makes the games more fun to watch but when u pick anthony davis and he is only owned by 7percent of people in my contest and he scores 100 points on fan duel and i still don’t make the moneyline whats the point? i know u will say play more single entries to avoid the sharks it does not matter because the last single entry i entered the top 8 players all had same exact lineup and same profile pic, can someone give me a good reason to waste another dollar on these sites?

    First of all you need to have a process to create lineups and that process should be fun. Hell I have more enjoyment making my LUs than actually watching the results (which is also fun when they’re doing well). If that’s not the case then this may not be for you.

    Many of us have been doing this for 3-4 years, obviously some with more success than others, and refining your process never stops. Start reading some articles on strategy and you’ll already be ahead of a lot of your competitors. Study some winning LUs and try to reverse engineer the reasoning behind those decisions. But this should be fun in the first place.

  • Olhausen

    Try playing on a smaller site like fantasy aces if you aren’t having success on the big two. The prizes are smaller but you cant mass multi enter and you don’t have as many sharks playing over there.

  • jellish

    considering you joined RG today going to go ahead and say you made a new account just to complain

  • zpruitt3

    if ya can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen

  • w3stcoastoff3ns3

    Try playing short slates. I have a lot of luck on late slates with low entry fees. I throw a dollars into the late slates and turbo and always come out with decent results.

  • fallfromgrace

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    derp’d my post, apologies

  • billholler

    @fallfromgrace said...

    derp’d my post, apologies

    My inner 12 year old giggles every time someones says “derp”. So thank you.

  • gmupats87

    @Cal said...

    Tamparoor, can you share the link to this contest?

    lol

  • TheRyanFlaherty

    If you are a more casual player, the point is that it should be fun. It should be fun to research, put together a team and then see how it plays out. With the added bonus that any given night, any player can hit and win a top prize.
    If you’re expectations were that you would win consistently, but you’re finding you can’t,,,it should always be your goal to try to improve….but you should re-examine those expectations. And most of all, If you don’t find the process fun, then I would suggest DFS may not be for you.

  • Heterodox

    @tamparoor said...

    i know u will say play more single entries to avoid the sharks it does not matter because the last single entry i entered the top 8 players all had same exact lineup and same profile pic, can someone give me a good reason to waste another dollar on these sites?

    If you don’t enjoy playing fantasy, then no, no one can give you a reason. If you did, you wouldn’t call it a waste. The fact that some people buy lineups, or some contests are shark-infested, is unfortunate, but not a deterrent. Especially if you’re playing in gpps.

    You may have been sold a lie on single entry though. The fact is, the larger the field size the lower your odds. That doesn’t change just because no one else can have more lineups than you. And “the sharks” are in pretty much everything. I think small field sizes increase their advantage over you, or you at least get crowded out of the money because they will comprise a larger portion of the field. Honestly, I think the best bet for a small-time player is to max enter the Quarter Arcade, which is advice I used to sneer at. But you want to know what you’re doing before you start trying to make a whole bunch of lineups, and it doesn’t sound like you’ve been at it for very long.

    My advice would be to clarify what exactly you’re hoping to get out of playing DFS, what you think it’s about and why you’re playing. Maybe the answer would reveal that the reasons you think you have for being frustrated aren’t actually very good ones. I mean, your odds of winning or even placing high in any gpp, single entry or otherwise, are pretty low, and assuming the field size is large enough, not affected all that much by “the sharks”. It’s unfortunate that they are also in low-stakes cash games, but even if they weren’t as a newer player you would still be at a disadvantage to all the “casual” players who have been at it for way longer than you, but who don’t qualify as sharks.

  • Heterodox

    @TheRyanFlaherty said...

    If you are a more casual player, the point is that it should be fun. It should be fun to research, put together a team and then see how it plays out. With the added bonus that any given night, any player can hit and win a top prize.
    If you’re expectations were that you would win consistently, but you’re finding you can’t,,,it should always be your goal to try to improve….but you should re-examine those expectations. And most of all, If you don’t find the process fun, then I would suggest DFS may not be for you.

    This is an excellent post that wasn’t there when I started typing mine.

  • joephoto

    @Phinsfan83 said...

    Yea basketball is especially bad for this.

    Definitely don’t play basketball.
    Hockey you can actually get lucky though.

  • pmsimkins

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    I’ll respond, despite this looking awfully troll like.

    It’s actually pretty simple. If you don’t like playing, stop playing!

    It’s amazing how arrogant and self-absorbed people can be. If you enter a 1000 person contest that means there are 999 other people who want to win too. Why in the world would you expect to beat them the first 10-20 times you play?

  • seymorskins

    Does Fanduel let you edit lineups form a banned state if you entered from a legal one?

  • jhorst52

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    @pmsimkins said...

    I’ll respond, despite this looking awfully troll like.

    It’s actually pretty simple. If you don’t like playing, stop playing!

    It’s amazing how arrogant and self-absorbed people can be. If you enter a 1000 person contest that means there are 999 other people who want to win too. Why in the world would you expect to beat them the first 10-20 times you play?

    Because everyone just deserves first place without having to work for it

  • billholler

    @jhorst52 said...

    Because everyone just deserves first place without having to work for it

    That will be the next change on DK. 100% payout structure. Entry fee is $3 and if you don’t finish in the top 20% they give you a participation dollar.

  • jhorst52

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    @billholler said...

    That will be the next change on DK. 100% payout structure. Entry fee is $3 and if you don’t finish in the top 20% they give you a participation dollar.

    LOL now that’s good.

  • tvsfrink

    90% payout structure!

    https://sports.yahoo.com/dailyfantasy/contest/1518722/setlineup

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