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  • sgaffney

    http://deadspin.com/i-tried-daily-fantasy-sports-and-its-evil-1733840276

    Discuss.

  • dmoen21

    Big Daddy Drew can be funny, but he can also be a huge douche. Like somebody mentioned on Twitter, he set out to write a negative article before he even signed up. Lots of inaccuracies in that article.

  • DillingerFour

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    FD lobby still has chat? News to me.

  • dmoen21

    @DillingerFour said...

    FD lobby still has chat? News to me.

    Will this article make the “Press Highlights” section?

  • emac

    @DillingerFour said...

    FD lobby still has chat? News to me.

    Serious question, why can Drew see the CBB, NBA and NHL contests…is this some sort of virtual “champagne” room for the high rollers?

    I knew there was a special chat room somewhere that still survived in the FD Area 51.

    Signed,

    A concerned citizen

  • hambazaza

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    somebody took a trip on the wayback machine

  • sgaffney

    Yeah it’s really disappointing. I really like him and Deadspin in general as they cut through so much of the bullshit attached to sports media but this seems like the exact type of article they would rail against. It’s ill informed, badly researched and formulates a conclusion based on the smallest sample size you could possibly imagine in a environment such as DFS.

    But must frustratingly of all, I don’t see how Deadspin and their philosophy could have a problem with draft kings outside of the fact that they are attached to ESPN. Even if it is gambling and 90% of us will lose in the long run, what is the problem with that? A large portion of that 90% are aware of that and see it as an enjoyable and constantly challenging hobby in which you can occasionally win a nice sum of money.

    Deadspin seem to promote liberal and progressive values where censorship is frowned upon and the freedom to make one’s own decision are promoted, but yet they position themselves here as the arbiter of the nations moral compass in regards to gambling. It’s the equivalent of never drinking in your life, going out and having 6 beers waking up with a hangover and then drawing the conclusion that alcohol is terrible for you and all brewing companies are out to fleece you at every turn with their pervasive advertising and promise of an impossible life. And then writing a semi serious think piece about how everyone who drinks are complete idiots and you know all this because you tried alcohol once.

    While those things might be true, there are millions of people who drink on a regular basis and enjoy perfectly enjoyable and fulfilling lives, while also being aware that alcohol is (shock horror) really not that good for you.

    Take issue with their irritating style of advertising sure, we all are, but don’t put out a condescending, patronising, and flat out in correct article just because you have to attack all things ESPN.

  • hambazaza

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    deadspin’s mission statement includes a clause to attack ESPN in every angle at every chance they get. i rarely enjoy their content but follow them because they actually do a good job as a media collector of gifs of sports events of games i didn’t get to see/watch

    so yeah, i generally find most of their takes annoying and they are too inflammatory and abrasive for anybody to actually maintain a real discussion with them.

    That said, the ads are misleading, the general public doesn’t care for being bombarded with dfs ads or ads of any genre, but most people haven’t tried dfs and thats ok. he tried it, thought he was awesome and rostered julio, and julio went off, but he failed to recognize game theory. so he decided that this isn’t a game of skill. he’s obviously biased and never had the intention to go through this honestly. whatever, that’s his prerogative.

    It doesn’t do much good to bash them, as this article falls in the general pool of backwash that is the journalistic integrity that exists at deadspin. Sure there are some great writers on there who occasionally find their unbiased voices heard, but they are few and far in between. Maybe I’m wrong, in fact, I hope I’m wrong, I want a site that is as popular as deadspin to present good information.

    oh well, what can we do?

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    Here’s a concept. Don’t be an idiot when playing DFS, poker or any other form of gambling. You have a bankroll. Manage it!

    DFS has far more skill than Season Long EVER will. A bad QB pick in August who gets injured in September will haunt you till damn near Christmas. Not the case in DFS. How is it no one can explain this to average folks?

  • MikeSos760

    Maybe he is paid to write poor things about draftkings by Draftkings? Any publicity is good publicity haha.. Eh I don’t mind him passing judgment on it. Still going play. I admit it is addictive

  • Lando241

    Deadspin has been going after DFS hard over the past month or so. There’s been about 3-5 articles per week attacking it.

  • CBassXU

    While he obviously wrote it with a predetermined intention and obviously did a poor job of doing so, I don’t think you can deny that a lot of 1st time DFS players do have at least somewhat similar experiences. I’ve had multiple coworkers or friends basically echo his opinions after casually trying DFS.

  • myteamsucks

    @sgaffney said...

    Deadspin seem to promote liberal and progressive values where censorship is frowned upon and the freedom to make one’s own decision are promoted

    Gawker media only supports people’s freedom to make their own decisions and form their own opinions if those decisions and opinions are strictly in line with their own. Cutting through the sports media bullshit while promoting a politically charged agenda in the majority of their sports related articles on Deadspin makes it an unreadable site in my opinion. It doesn’t surprise me at all that they’d take a negative approach to dfs while it’s popularity is on the rise.

  • dmoen21

    @myteamsucks said...

    Gawker media only supports people’s freedom to make their own decisions and form their own opinions if those decisions and opinions are strictly in line with their own. Cutting through the sports media bullshit while promoting a politically charged agenda in the majority of their sports related articles on Deadspin makes it an unreadable site in my opinion. It doesn’t surprise me at all that they’d take a negative approach to dfs while it’s popularity is on the rise.

    This is spot on. I used to love Deadspin, especially when Will Leitch ran it. It has really gone downhill.

  • kbarnhill7523

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    The article is even more hilarious if you imagine it all in caps read by Lewis Black.

  • mellofellowsu

    Meh, I wasn’t offended by this article. I’m guessing the way he’s talking about this subject matter is shtick. He probably talks like this about a lot of other things.

  • sgaffney

    @myteamsucks said...

    Gawker media only supports people’s freedom to make their own decisions and form their own opinions if those decisions and opinions are strictly in line with their own. Cutting through the sports media bullshit while promoting a politically charged agenda in the majority of their sports related articles on Deadspin makes it an unreadable site in my opinion. It doesn’t surprise me at all that they’d take a negative approach to dfs while it’s popularity is on the rise.

    Yeah that’s fair. I mean I guess that’s like any media outlet, they want you to be creative and interesting so long as you don’t affect the brand. Everyone saw that with the Conde Nast scandal that enveloped Gawker. Also, with the return of Simmons today, we are reminded of his sacking for basically giving one too many opinions his employer didn’t agree with.

    I’m just disappointed as I actually like more stuff on Deadspin than the majority here it seems.

  • sgaffney

    @CBassXU said...

    While he obviously wrote it with a predetermined intention and obviously did a poor job of doing so, I don’t think you can deny that a lot of 1st time DFS players do have at least somewhat similar experiences. I’ve had multiple coworkers or friends basically echo his opinions after casually trying DFS.

    That’s fine but it should be his job to push past the casual users experience and find out a little more about the topic he’s writing 1000+ words on. People can try, and hate DK, I couldn’t care less about them as a company but he has a platform to write an interesting or informed opinion about a topic. He failed on both counts

  • FrancisBooth

    Can someone point me in the direction of the three dollar game on dk that pays 1 million dollars to first place?

  • slcseas

    I’m pretty sure the article was just mild satire trolling. It’s hard not to take a few shots with the obscene amount of commercials that air non-stop. This is the site that runs the 32 part “Your team sucks” columns every football season. Poking fun at football related things is fun because it’s easy to get people’s panties in a bunch. It’s an underrated spot to stoke some nerd rage.

  • soonerdawg

    the writing is so poor i didn’t make it through the whole article…..the block quotes reminded me of my days as a student and trying to make a word count

  • yeahthisiscuddy

    I think if you’re posting on the Rotogrinders forum you’ve pretty much self selected to hate this article. Eventually you’re going to lose all your money or figure out its not worth the time/aggravation and quit.

    I’ve been grinding out MLB contests almost every day since April. I’ve had some nice winning streaks and some dreadful losing streaks. Looking back now on how that made me feel and act, I hadn’t realized I was addicted – until reading this article. I hope you all don’t dismiss it out of hand and really consider some of the points he’s making. I think you’ll eventually find it to be true as I have.

    Best of luck to you all!

  • LegiaWwa

    You guys are too sensitive, I thought it was hilarious. This makes no sense, but it was so true yet so false on so many levels.

  • huitcinq

    Deadspin is garbage

    How can you possibly be pro-drugs and anti-gambling

  • depalma13

    I once took $3 and handed it to a lady behind a cash register. She handed me three very colorful cards. All of them promised me I could win $10,000.

    I took a penny and scratched the cards. After a minute of doing this I discovered that a won a free ticket and got another chance to scratch a card for $10,000. After scratching that card I didn’t win.

    I lost $3 in less than two minutes.

    It took this guy an entire weekend to lose the same amount.

  • jmo26

    @huitcinq said...

    Deadspin is garbage

    How can you possibly be pro-drugs and anti-gambling

    Deadspin has become an absolute joke.

    I don’t know if they’re actually anti-gambling though, or just anti-anything related to ESPN.

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