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  • cedric19

    I think it’s very possible that a sport, through a combination of a more educated overall player pool, relatively uniform salaries across many players, high degree of game randomness, and ridiculous rake to overcome, just aren’t beatable in the long run. You could be the best card counter in the world but if blackjack pays 6:5 it doesn’t matter.

  • madmanjayWV

    @cedric19 said...

    I think it’s very possible that a sport, through a combination of a more educated overall player pool, relatively uniform salaries across many players, high degree of game randomness, and ridiculous rake to overcome, just aren’t beatable in the long run. You could be the best card counter in the world but if blackjack pays 6:5 it doesn’t matter.

    Y R U POSTING THIS?
    Shouldn’t u be at the casino? HEHE
    UNCLE SAM SAYS HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • cedric19

    Come on nawmsayin, we can’t all concentrate on $1 H2Hs like you. Might as well wander around looking for loose change in a parking lot and make just as much

  • nawmsayin

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    i meant delete my post not yours

  • cedric19

    oh lol

    oops!

  • hoffs812

    actually only a week in… have had a lot better success in MLB than I had all season in NBA

  • uconn60

    It’s just been a week but it seems to me that fd is more beatable than dk. Really just started playing this year but Dk changes their prices much more which maybe makes it more challenging but at the same time might take away an edge that a serious player has over a casual player. For instance today adam laroche with a great matchup was a must play on fanduel at 3100 but one dk was 5300 and hard to fit into lineups with all the elite pitching options. Could be just me but I’ve been cashing on fd very easily but barely keeping afloat on dk. Any other opinions on this? Maybe just need to get better but just something I’ve noticed over the first week of the season.

  • cedric19

    What I’m saying is maybe in MLB skillful choices and value plays are not statistically significant enough to overcome the rake as long as everyone has starters in the top half of the batting lineup and don’t throw a dart to choose a pitcher (which it seems is the case)

  • yaleg34

    @cedric19 said...

    What I’m saying is maybe in MLB skillful choices and value plays are not statistically significant enough to overcome the rake as long as everyone has starters in the top half of the batting lineup and don’t throw a dart to choose a pitcher (which it seems is the case)

    Assuming you mean short run not long run?

    Any game can become rake unbeatable if the player pool becomes too skillful and the edge isnt large enough to overcome rake.

    Honestly i think NBA is significantly easier for the common man than mlb, and its not even close

  • T0mmyJ0hnZipper

    HAHA best troll op this year.

    Move up where they respect your raises….

    Yes it is beatable. You just have to find the right person to paypal for their lineups. I was a minor league pitcher hence the screen name. Maybe I have an unfair advantage but baseball is the easiest sport to make $ imo.

  • JMAC126

    @hoffs812 said...

    actually only a week in… have had a lot better success in MLB than I had all season in NBA

    That’s definitely a big enough sample size.

  • jmo26

    @uconn60 said...

    Really just started playing this year but Dk changes their prices much more which maybe makes it more challenging but at the same time might take away an edge that a serious player has over a casual player

    Exactly this.

  • maxeernst

    @jmo26 said...

    Really just started playing this year but Dk changes their prices much more which maybe makes it more challenging but at the same time might take away an edge that a serious player has over a casual player

    Same argument can be made in reverse——if prices are tighter it requires more skill to identify value and in turn increases a serious player’s edge over that of a casual player.

  • Yukerboy

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    Tighter pricing always favors the skilled player. Always.

  • Troll4MVP

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    @Yukerboy said...

    Tighter pricing always favors the skilled player. Always.

    no

  • Yukerboy

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    @Troll4MVP said...

    no

    T4M, ain’t nobody in here respecting what you have done more than me, but tighter pricing means that the values picks become more important than ever than stacking teams with the highest Vegas line. The value picks are what makes the skilled player skilled. Picking the stars who will get value, picking the scrubs who will get value.

    In NBA, if pricing was being done like DK MLB is, then you’d be seeing Lillard at $10,000 vs Lakers and Dragic at $5,500 vs Memphis. It’s the skilled player that benefits from tighter pricing. The skilled player is looking for the Muscalas and the Anthony Morrows. Lou Williams last nite.

    Tighter prices reduce variance. Reducing variance favors skill over system.

  • MTro86

    RG Writer

    If everyone were priced as close to correctly as possible, it becomes more about luck. If tighter pricing means just less of a gap in the numbers, then skill is favored.

    As for beatable? I don’t know that DFS baseball has been around long enough for us to say that there are people we expect to be consistent winners.

  • sflynn1

    Hey, I know this off topic, but the board is active and need some help. What does OPRK mean? 2B DJ LeMahieu is 28th. What does that mean, it is in green.

  • jimmyrad

    Have you seen the poo being flung against the wall? Must not have to ask this question. Dart throwing at pitching is exactly what is going on, and it seems that weak 9th hitters that would face Kluber if they didn’t have the day off are popular, quite popular indeed.

  • tgowen

    • Blogger of the Month

    IMO the skill discussions of DFS are vastly overrated as long as picks and lineups are as easily accessible as they are now (whether they are free or not). Neither of those are going away regardless of what sites do to their salaries.

    For what it’s worth I have no problem with either. With the age we are currently in with DFS any player can spend 10 minutes online and have a competitive lineup entered and be home in time for dinner. You just have to learn to deal with it and adapt. I still believe skill plays a role in the game, but not as big a role as some would like to think.

    Just my opinion though.

  • nymjjb

    mlb=luck

  • HardCore

    DK is unbeatable this year those prices are just stupid but imma practice FD for a week to see what happens and if i can build some consistency with my scores i’ll keep at it but i’m 1 more bad night away from saying bye bye to DFS till september

  • PlinyTheYounger

    @HardCore said...

    DK is unbeatable this year those prices are just stupid but imma practice FD for a week to see what happens and if i can build some consistency with my scores i’ll keep at it but i’m 1 more bad night away from saying bye bye to DFS till september

    dealwithit

  • ebsteelers

    of course its beatable for the top guys.
    the guys with the biggest bank rolls naturally have the best chance to be successful, they can survive variance better than lower bank roll guys because they have more funding to have multiple line ups and mix and match better.

  • cedric19

    @ebsteelers said...

    of course its beatable for the top guys.
    the guys with the biggest bank rolls naturally have the best chance to be successful, they can survive variance better than lower bank roll guys because they have more funding to have multiple line ups and mix and match better.

    You can have all the bankroll you want to, doesn’t change that some things aren’t beatable.

    You could take 5 million to a $5 craps table and bet the best bets on the table, doesn’t mean you win in the long run

  • alsmizzle

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    It’s a beatable game

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