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  • Srmustangs

    How tilting is it to come in at say the 10th percentile in a contest and get paid the same as someone who came in on the bubble at the 20th percentile? You create a better lineup and you get paid the same? How fun would it be to sweat every pay spot? I see no reason in this time and age how you cant easily program the software to create unique payouts for all spots that go up for as your placing increases. This would lead to more people locked into sweating results nightly which creates more attachment ( or addiction). So many times I see I am basically locked into a pay zone and just log off for night not caring about what happens in 4th quarter of a Warriors game.

    I think each position you achieve higher should be worth more than the position below especially in higher dollar or single entry events. I get that maybe in massive GPP’s you might be rounding off pennies and it makes less sense but in this time and age I think sites should do this more often. This is a no brainer. Do you guys agree?

  • whoisjohngalt420

    I agree.

  • bigez952

    I like the idea if they grouped spots together so every pay slot changed by even dollar amounts. I am weird that way but I don’t like having change in my account and every time I split a bubble cash and win something less than a dollar I have to withdraw something to get back to an even number.

    If every pay zone was paid out in change I would probably have to quit playing lol.

  • whoisjohngalt420

    @bigez952 said...

    I like the idea if they grouped spots together so every pay slot changed by even dollar amounts. I am weird that way but I don’t like having change in my account and every time I split a bubble cash and win something less than a dollar I have to withdraw something to get back to an even number.

    If every pay zone was paid out in change I would probably have to quit playing lol.

    man have you been in the situation where you’ll make a deposit to DK that’ll put it at an even round number… then they go and randomly add 1 cent to it?? Have had this happen a few times.. will leave account at like $ xx.01 .. doh

  • Jvanspro

    I’m still waiting for the day the payouts are flatter. The pay to the top 10 is way too high IMO.

  • BFFD

    This would only really make sense in small contests, in which the difference between 10th and 20th percentile isn’t that many spots anyway. There’s a reason no one’s adopted this “no brainer” idea.

  • Olhausen

    @Jvanspro said...

    I’m still waiting for the day the payouts are flatter. The pay to the top 10 is way too high IMO.

    Agreed so much. Baseball is my bread and butter and I’d make a lot more if you didn’t have to get a top ten to get paid decently.

  • BobbyTheBrain

    Couldn’t agree more. It’s very discouraging to place in the top 10-15% and just barely double your money

  • dsmodi

    Brilliant idea. Would probably work best on the smaller contests as you suggested. If they did this, I wonder if it would drive more play towards the smaller contests…which the sites probably don’t want.

  • TMH887

    I really wish they would implement this. I have almost entirely stopped playing GPP’s because of it. It’s a real bummer finishing in 20th place out of like 3,000 only to win $40.

  • jimfred82

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    unfortunately, today’s current payouts are a reaction to people complaining about it being too hard to cash back in the day and not surviving long enough to play. payouts used to be much better, but usually only the top 10-12 percent would cash. i doubt it will change anytime soon… if anything, it could end up being top 25% cash and a lot of the minimum will just be 1.5x payouts. min cash used to be 3x!

  • Csufantasy

    I think the thought it to flatten the pay structures. They have gotten so top heavy. Tonight’s NBA tournament is a prime example on fan duel. 50,000 to) first place and 700 to 9th place

  • madmanjayWV

    Don’t forget the DFS sites know what the players want…just ask ‘em

  • WidumBoise

    Simple solution is to just always show up with the nuts.

  • NoLimits0

    Isn’t this problem solved if the top payout isn’t like 20% or even 33% at times and instead 15% giving more back to lower places?

  • JH822547

    There’s always a sister tournament to enter with a more balanced pay out structure.

    The reality is people will always be attracted to the big prize, way more of a buzz if you can enter a tournament playing for 100K than 10K even if your chances of winning of it are negligible.

  • Hatchins

    @Olhausen said...

    Agreed so much. Baseball is my bread and butter and I’d make a lot more if you didn’t have to get a top ten to get paid decently.

    I mean, it sounds like you don’t want to be playing gpps then. That’s the whole point is to be top heavy….and win

  • TheRyanFlaherty

    Seems like that could be fun. As others mentioned it probably works best, or has to be, in smaller contests, like the 237, 117, 56, whatever the exact numbers are type leagues.
    It also likely works there because those aren’t the contests with astronomical payouts to 1st to attract casual players.

    And also, I can’t help but post out the change thing is some of the craziest stuff I’ve heard in some time. And I’m coming from a place of “takes one to know one” as I have (have had) numerous intricacies and ocd type behavior, but even that seemed like a bit much lol
    Edit- * maybe that shouldn’t seem so crazy to me, just realized when I withdraw I do take out the change to make it even…I guess I just don’t mind the change there in the meantime. Especially with all the odd payouts nowadays. I don’t know when, or if it ever is a whole number at this point.

  • jimfred82

    • Blogger of the Month

    @madmanjayWV said...

    Don’t forget the DFS sites know what the players want…just ask ‘em

  • lonecow0517

    Sounds like socialism

  • kiteman

    If you have never finished a GPP in the top 20 you probably shouldn’t complain much, because the math is going to work itself out the same the further you get away from that tier. In other words, if you pay the top 20 $10,000 each, then that bucket totals about the same in $$ as what they are paying the top 20 in GPPs in their current format. After that, there has to be a steady decline in payouts, or an altogether smaller % of winning lineups than the 20-23% that exists today.

    But yeah, in general if you get within about 3-4 points of 1st place and end up in 15th and only make $750 then it is definitely frustrating and this format sounds better. But in reality that’s a pretty small percentage of people compared to total lineups, and most people that multi enter 150 lineups a night probably wouldn’t as much if the winner only got $10,000. That in turn would likely lower the GPPs filling up, which would once again lower the winnings and/or the % of people paid out profits. It kind of circles back to the purpose of the GPP which is to win big, otherwise just play single entries or cash games if you’re looking for a better probability with profit on your investment.

  • BerkeleyBoss

    @JH822547 said...

    There’s always a sister tournament to enter with a more balanced pay out structure.

    The reality is people will always be attracted to the big prize, way more of a buzz if you can enter a tournament playing for 100K than 10K even if your chances of winning of it are negligible.

    Yup. I hate the tournaments that pay 25%+ to 1st place simply because they want the top prize to be $100k. Tonight, the big $15 buyin on FD has a $333k prize pool with $100k to 1st. That means that about 41% of the entry fees go to rake+1st place. It requires a significantly larger bankroll to sustain the inherently larger downswings. If they made it $50k to 1st, I’d probably play it every night, but as it stands, I just play the $4.44 or $7.77 every night. Pretty sure I’m in the minority, so I don’t expect things to change.

  • Spaghettiboyy

    Amen!

  • DFSx42

    Guys just vote with your wallets here. Writing about it won’t change anything, but if the tournaments with flatter payout structures fill and the others produce overlay then the sites will adapt.

    Same with rake. Everyone complains about rake, but then you’ll get plenty of threads here arguing how 50/50 is dumb but double ups are better… proving to the sites that people aren’t really paying attention to rake so keep raising it.

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