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  • phillygamecox

    http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/18078056/daily-fantasy-powerhouses-draftkings-fanduel-agree-merge

  • noddy

    So much speculation here and questions that no one here can answer. The only thing for sure is that rake will NOT go down.

  • Truufinator

    @billholler said...

    FD tourney also had 30,000 extra lineups you had to beat compared to DK and paid out 25,000 less spots.

    That doesn’t bother me like some on these forums. I play for the big payday/low entry fee. Heck, if I could add $50K to my yearly earnings in one day I’d be so happy. Now if I have to play and win multiple $10K 1st place prizes (which would NEVER happen) I just wouldn’t play. Instead, I would save up entry fees for each day I didn’t play and wait for an event where they offer a higher entry fee/higher 1st place prize and take a shot in that. The only game I play on DK now is the Millionaire Maker. Everything else I avoid like the plague.

    Why can’t the sites advertise a “Top heavy” tourney for people like me and a “Balanced payout” tourney for others?

  • rainbowtroutman

    @dude_abides7 said...

    You will be required to deposit directly into Saahil Sud’s bank account.

    lol—— it will eventually

  • Yeoman

    @noddy said...

    So much speculation here and questions that no one here can answer. The only thing for sure is that rake will NOT go down.

    Rake will go down when somebody else decides to compete on the basis of rake.

    And I don’t think that’s going to happen until the legality questions are settled.

  • kantiger77

    There is no world in which a legitimate anti-trust agency approves this. It’s the classic case of what anti-trust laws were intended to avoid.

  • MrFantasy

    @Yeoman said...

    Rake will go down when somebody else decides to compete on the basis of rake.

    And I don’t think that’s going to happen until the legality questions are settled.

    Problem is the people that care about rake the most are the ones who are winning. What percentage of people are just throwing $5-$50 a day into contests regardless of the rake.

    Even if iTeam/Aces/Yahoo/Draftday/FantasyDraft/Draft and whoever else kept their rake at 10% or even lower who would flock there? Winning players would be the overwhelming majority I’d imagine. So then it’s just a reg battle.

  • bstreich9

    Everything will be speculation until heard otherwise. People saying this is the end, get real.

  • britdevine

    • 2014 StarStreet MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    Rake always goes up in online gambling as companies go public and try to squeeze every ounce of profit they can for shareholders.

    Go look at online poker

  • dude_abides7

    @britdevine said...

    Rake always goes up in online gambling as companies go public and try to squeeze every ounce of profit they can for shareholders.

    Go look at online poker

    Agreed…but I am certain there is a significant amount of this rake increase that directly correlates to these site’s collective legal bills. As stated previously, if upper management would have listened to their customer base when things were going sideways, took preventative measures and showed leadership they would not need to be spending this much money protecting the gates and the regulators wouldn’t have the leverage they currently maintain.

    In any other industry these clowns would have been removed.

  • mvanderk10

    I hope they don’t use fanduel lineup setup for anything, I think there NFL setup is a joke. No flex and using a kicker is so 1999.

  • wolfjb1

    Yeah, this whole thing is a wait-and-see situation. We have no idea what the final outcome will be. Personally, I strongly prefer DK on NFL and FD for MLB. (I could explain why, but no one really cares. Everyone has their own preferences – I’m sure more than one person has strong feelings that are the exact opposite of mine – and the sites can’t satisfy all the users, so they will do what they think we want them to do and we’ll either play, migrate over to somewhere else, like Aces, or we’ll go find another hobby.

  • makeitra1n

    @Truufinator said...

    I love Fanduel for NBA. $3 can get you $50K. Draftkings $4 can get you $30K today. I don’t pay much attention to DK NBA but most of the time I’ve looked their $4 paid maybe $10K to 1st. I hope this merger keeps the same FD payouts.

    Won’t last.fd will hike it up to 4 dollars any day now.they copy dk like crazy.then time will pass and the new large gpp will be the 5 dollar one.and the current 5 dollar gpp will be 7 dollars.heck you see the slam today?30 up from 25 lmao.and if you’re a low buy in player they force you into a direction since 1 dollar gpps are 3 entry max now,not by accident btw

    They can get away with it now cause there’s tons of volume with NFL season

  • billholler

    @mvanderk10 said...

    I hope they don’t use fanduel lineup setup for anything, I think there NFL setup is a joke. No flex and using a kicker is so 1999.

    That is why I quit playing on FD last year. I live in Texas and now the problem is will I still be able to play if the merger happens prior to some sort of legislation being passed in this state.

  • billholler

    @Truufinator said...

    Why can’t the sites advertise a “Top heavy” tourney for people like me and a “Balanced payout” tourney for others?

    That’s what DK has now. You might know that if you actually played there.

  • texasrangersfan

    I don’t think this merger will take place until middle of next year. That should give the Texas Legislature to pass a bill by then.

  • TheRyanFlaherty

    FanDuel e-mail gave a better sense of a time frame. It indicated once the current seasons (NFL, NBA, NHL) had ended.
    Which makes sense, although I don’t know what that means for baseball?
    They’ll always be some season overlapping…My logical guess would be that (assuming the merger goes through) They can setup and run the same configuration for baseball, so there can merge and have it be more-or-less seamless.

    Also, I mentioned this in the speculation thread…But if you’re using “the sky is falling” rhetoric, you’re basically arguing that these companies are incompetent and are setting themselves up to fail.
    Yes they are the two biggest companies, but they are not in a position to merge and screw over the consumer. They are merging because of operation costs, legal fess and a dwindling player base largely due to a negative public narrative of DFS.
    What from this situation leads you to believe they are in a position to screw over players?
    This is a move they feel is necessary and one to stabilize.
    But that is the logical way to look at this situation…Now with that said, I will admit we are living in a post-logic world…So on the off chance these companies really are run by morons? Well there is going to be a hole for a company to step up and be a clear number two.

  • madmanjayWV

    Tried to say that like 6+ weeks ago and got murdered in here for it.
    DUH — it was coming from a zillion miles away.

  • billholler

    @TheRyanFlaherty said...

    It indicated once the current seasons (NFL, NBA, NHL) had ended.

    Well that won’t be any time soon since the NHL season never seems to end.

  • ballabal

    I am also in Texas and FD left the state. Will the merged company still be able to operate in Texas, or will I have to find some alternative? I play mostly for the fun of it, but winning $$$ is nice. Oh well, there is a slim chance that I may move to Colorado. That would solve the legality issue for me.

  • depalma13

    @kantiger77 said...

    There is no world in which a legitimate anti-trust agency approves this. It’s the classic case of what anti-trust laws were intended to avoid.

    Sirius and XM are one company. This merger will go through.

  • ElwoodB

    I have a problem with this. I have an account in good standing on DK but Fanduel hates me because I deposited money and then insisted they return it to me a few weeks later. My own goddamn money and they gave me grief over it! Fuck ‘em.

    So what happens to my good DK account when they merge?

  • XrayPunk

    @TheRyanFlaherty said...

    Yes they are the two biggest companies, but they are not in a position to merge and screw over the consumer. They are merging because of operation costs, legal fess and a dwindling player base largely due to a negative public narrative of DFS.
    What from this situation leads you to believe they are in a position to screw over players?

    Of course not, because companies in peril have NEVER made some grand business/financial gesture, made a last cash grab for the CEOs/investers and then left customers holding the bag. That’s NEVER happened before.

  • proshares

    I need the DB pod to make sense of all of this.

  • Messiah717

    People will still play and the pros or “sharks” will still do their thing. To what degree remains to be seen. That said the cat has been out of the bag for a while when the curtain was forced to be pulled back on these companies. Poor bro style management and greed will always end up failing in the end.

  • Junkie62

    Inevitable I believe is the word.

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