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  • whodat2

    When: July 13-16

    Where: Silvis, IL

    Course: TPC Deer Run | A par 71 playing at 7268 yards

    Last Year’s Winner: Ryan Moore at -22

    Last Year’s Cut: -3

    Coverage: The Norm

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  • RecEm2014

    @wpstewart99 said...

    $30

    Thanks. Wow HUGE scores this week. Wish I put that up in baseball ONE TIME

  • RangerC

    Forgot how annoying it was to be on the low(ish) owned winner and get zip… 50% Bryson across all sites and lost 90% of entries (almost all 4/6 or 6/8). Really wish they would go back to 150 entry $3 tournament – I miss being able to play 70-100 LUs for $300 or less with a good 1st prize.

  • cy1985

    The lesson I learned this week is don’t wake up in the middle of the night and change your lineup last minute. I swapped out one guy and lost $100 dollar cash this week on the Puddin single entry. I just missed cashing with my 5/6 this week. I did however finish 24th out of 5300 teams in the Nascar $4 single entry today. So there’s that.

  • superstars92

    Just landed and got back home, so I didn’t follow all day. I look at the leaderboard and then at my results, and I’m stunned actually. It turned out to be a good week for me, despite that I had like 1 team with Harman and 0% of Stricker in regular/weekend combined, who both went nuts this weekend after getting in from Kim’s 3 putt.

    I tried more of a single-entry/lower number of entries this week rather than multi-enter, and I think it’s not a bad idea if you can have most of your core hit. I ended up cashing my single entry Country Club (10th/102), cashing all my regular double ups, 3/9 Club Pros were in the top 50 (including a Bryson, Bryan, Berger 5/6 for 22nd that I wish I took Stanley off because it would have prevented me from choosing Gay who missed the cut), and I somehow cashed all my weekend double ups despite being in almost dead last yesterday. It wasn’t like a huge weekend or anything, but it was just surprising the results were better than expected by just glancing at the leaderboard. Kyle Stanley turned out to be a pretty bad choice by me (but at least he made the cut), and so was Kevin Na, but other than that, all of my other core players got -10 or better.

    Btw, I totally agree with the notion that most of you guys on this forum probably are just as good as the pros, and probably can compete with them if you got a bigger bankroll in the higher stakes. I know it’s only 1 week for me, so it’s not a great sample size, but I also sometimes have dabbled with higher entries in the past, and I don’t necessarily think the pros are better than the people on this forum. I definitely think a lot of you guys are better than me, so I feel like you guys should give it a try sometime with like 1 entry in the Club Pro. I didn’t look at the GPP cash lines, but I imagine it was LOWER in the Club Pro than the Dogleg because Kevin Na was higher owned there.

  • superstars92

    Also congrats to Bryson! Didn’t think he would actually win, but that’s pretty life changing for him. Also congrats to those who did well this week. Didn’t read the entire thread yet, but I saw someone here posted they got 4th in the Dogleg, which is a lot.

  • roach62

    all i have to say is..screw Danny Lee…was gonna say it after day 1 but got behind in the forum and he was out so didnt bother checking…

    come to find out…i had 1st, 5th, 12th, 64th…a missed cut by Cejka…and i only finished 30DK OUT of cashline with Cejka MC and Lee quitting after round 1…pathetic

  • superstars92

    I guess we can actually move on to a tournament which has bigger names now, the British. I still don’t know the weather yet, but I don’t think it will matter for Rickie’s ownership. DK did a major disservice to Rickie’s price. I rarely go with Rickie even though he’s one of my top 3 favorite players, but I think I’m loading up on him at the British, unless there is some rare weather pattern that only comes around when Rickie plays.

  • Perchking

    Did ok this week put in 50 buckets and won 169. Would have been a lot better but my guys decided not to play golf today.

  • maibockaddict

    These in between tournaments with lesser gofers are terrible for fantasy imho. Too many unknowns do well and make it tough to win without large amounts of entries. That said my quarter strategy with more entries worked this week and I won 4 $33 tix for next week

    If I can’t celebrate here, well thpthpth

  • stlcardinals84

    Leading RG Analyst

    • 2018 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

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    @superstars92 said...

    Btw, I totally agree with the notion that most of you guys on this forum probably are just as good as the pros, and probably can compete with them if you got a bigger bankroll in the higher stakes. I know it’s only 1 week for me, so it’s not a great sample size, but I also sometimes have dabbled with higher entries in the past, and I don’t necessarily think the pros are better than the people on this forum. I definitely think a lot of you guys are better than me, so I feel like you guys should give it a try sometime with like 1 entry in the Club Pro. I didn’t look at the GPP cash lines, but I imagine it was LOWER in the Club Pro than the Dogleg because Kevin Na was higher owned there.

    Cash line cutoffs for this week:

    $1,500 Country Club: 473 points
    $333 Club Pro: 465 points
    $33 Dogleg: 451 points
    $8 Best Ball: 448 points

    I don’t know why everyone automatically thinks high stakes contests are “not any different” outside of bankroll. The cash line cutoff is ALWAYS higher in the higher dollar contests. Is it easier to win them? Of course… there are fewer entries in them in total, so the WINNING SCORE will be lower, but that’s simply a function of fewer entries.

    It’s easy to take an entry from the $8 or $33 GPP and say “Man I would have won the Club Pro” but just be careful with that line of thinking. It has caused many people to play outside their means in DFS.

    If you want to dabble in high dollar contests, I’m not trying to dissuade you, but they are by no means softer contests.

  • timusbr

    @maibockaddict said...

    If I can’t celebrate here, well thpthpth

    celebrate away…..you need to do something about the flat tire thp thp thp

  • mabrla

    I hate that my team would have won the thunder dome yet I won 80 dollars in the dogleg.

  • mabrla

    @stlcardinals84 said...

    Cash line cutoffs for this week:

    $1,500 Country Club: 473 points
    $333 Club Pro: 465 points
    $33 Dogleg: 451 points
    $8 Best Ball: 448 points

    I don’t know why everyone automatically thinks high stakes contests are “not any different” outside of bankroll. The cash line cutoff is ALWAYS higher in the higher dollar contests. Is it easier to win them? Of course… there are fewer entries in them in total, so the WINNING SCORE will be lower, but that’s simply a function of fewer entries.

    It’s easy to take an entry from the $8 or $33 GPP and say “Man I would have won the Club Pro” but just be careful with that line of thinking. It has caused many people to play outside their means in DFS.

    If you want to dabble in high dollar contests, I’m not trying to dissuade you, but they are by no means softer contests.

    I’ve been saving to do this. Basically punted the year to do so but br is rising. Cash games are no fun though despite profitability.

  • mabrla

    The key is you need $2000 in entry fees to only be 10% of your br. Went high stakes last year and only lasted a few months bc I was essentially playing my entire bankroll every day lol.

  • lfn1992

    I’m just pleased as punch that I didn’t get a single 6/6 and my EURO single LU was 4/6 yet I nearly doubled up. Basically I had some rotten luck, thought I was dead after Michael Kim 3-putted, yet somehow made enough to be able to enjoy the Open next week.

    I’ve never been so much of a jumble of emotions though. The Open I guarantee will not have as much drama as this week.

  • Jamcclea

    I’ve dabbled in the higher stakes tourneys before. Club pro a handful of times and the country club once. It’s not easier up there, believe me.

  • BIF

    @stlcardinals84 said...

    Cash line cutoffs for this week:

    $1,500 Country Club: 473 points
    $333 Club Pro: 465 points
    $33 Dogleg: 451 points
    $8 Best Ball: 448 points

    I don’t know why everyone automatically thinks high stakes contests are “not any different” outside of bankroll. The cash line cutoff is ALWAYS higher in the higher dollar contests. Is it easier to win them? Of course… there are fewer entries in them in total, so the WINNING SCORE will be lower, but that’s simply a function of fewer entries.

    It’s easy to take an entry from the $8 or $33 GPP and say “Man I would have won the Club Pro” but just be careful with that line of thinking. It has caused many people to play outside their means in DFS.

    If you want to dabble in high dollar contests, I’m not trying to dissuade you, but they are by no means softer contests.

    Many of the high dollar entries are only paying Top 20% where some of the lower $ entries are now paying up to 27% so that accounts for the differing cash lines. If you compare apples to apples and look where the Top 20% line actually falls most times, it is lower in the high$ entry contests more often when I’ve looked but it isn’t usually within 5pts.

    By the way, Nice week again Cards !!!

  • JimKronlund

    http://www.golfdigest.com/story/golf-garrigus-shedloski-0704
    A very good article on Robert Garrigus from 2011

  • superstars92

    @stlcardinals84 said...

    If you want to dabble in high dollar contests, I’m not trying to dissuade you, but they are by no means softer contests.

    Let me rephrase.

    So first of all, I am actually surprised at the cutoffs. My guess was definitely wrong. I thought the cutoff would be higher for the Dogleg this week than the Club Pro or Country Club because Na was higher owned in the latter 2 contests. In general, I do agree that the cutoff for cashing will be higher in the Club Pro or Country Club (because there’s more chalk or more higher EV plays in those contests and less risk taking of choosing like sub 7k players who are clearly very -EV). That’s why the 50/50 cash line is higher than the 50 percentile of the Dogleg (since the CP and CC entries are more similar to double up entries than Dogleg or Best Ball entries). I just thought this week would be an exception because of Na’s ownership. I was wrong of course on that.

    Anyways, that’s not the right way to look at it though (the cutoff number – I know I talked about it first, but that’s really not a good way to evaluate it). What I think you want to look at is this.

    How often does the winning score in the Club Pro beat the winning score of the Dogleg, normalized for the number of entries? Say the Club Pro has 1000 entries and say the Dogleg has 10k entries, for the sake of simplicity. Does the winning score in the Club Pro BEAT the winning score in the Dogleg more than 1/10 times. I know on average, the Dogleg winning score is higher because there’s just more entries, but as long as the Club Pro doesn’t beat the winning score more than 1/10 times, it’s actually “easier” to win the Club Pro than the Dogleg, normalized to entries.

    The cutoff is not a good way to actually look at it though because most people enter tourneys not to min cash. Otherwise, if that was the only goal, then you want to enter high EV, no contrarian plays all the time, as that maximizes the chance to min cash. That actually explains why the cutoffs are different because I am intentionally throwing in more riskier plays in the Dogleg that are more -EV in general but may have a better chance to actually win the tournament.

    The other reason not to look at cutoff is what Jim said above, in that it pays out different %s. Anyways, I admit I was wrong about the cutoff (my hypothesis this week is wrong, after looking at the data). However, what I proposed above is the better way to look at which contest is easier, and my guess is I don’t think there is a significant difference between lower and higher stakes. Also, sorry if I implied higher stakes is EASIER than lower stakes. That’s not what I meant to imply. I meant to say there is no significant difference between the two, so I was encouraging some people on here to try it at least once.

  • BIF

    I had a very good week and won over 5x what I put in including lots of Top 10-100 finishes in Wknd Golf – bring on Open Championship Week

    And To close off this week, a little Bryson DeCham story for you. Earlier this year while he was on a MC streak, things go at so bad that his caddie quit on him – Bryson’s caddie was so tired of the complaining and blaming from Bryson that he quit – he went on to caddie at Brandon Dunes in Oregon. Not sure when they made up, but he was back on the bag this week for Bryson and helped bring home the trophy. Bryson missed a pile of cuts in a row and his caddie also rode a roller coaster this season.

  • JimKronlund

    @JimKronlund said...

    http://www.golfdigest.com/story/golf-garrigus-shedloski-0704
    A very good article on Robert Garrigus from 2011

    http://www.golfdigest.com/story/gwar-robert-garrigus-rosaforte-report-0819
    Another Robert Garrugus article from 2013

  • mgravity

    @BIF said...

    I had a very good week and won over 5x what I put in including lots of Top 10-100 finishes in Wknd Golf – bring on Open Championship Week

    And To close off this week, a little Bryson DeCham story for you. Earlier this year while he was on a MC streak, things go at so bad that his caddie quit on him – Bryson’s caddie was so tired of the complaining and blaming from Bryson that he quit – he went on to caddie at Brandon Dunes in Oregon. Not sure when they made up, but he was back on the bag this week for Bryson and helped bring home the trophy. Bryson missed a pile of cuts in a row and his caddie also rode a roller coaster this season.

    Once again I have a first time winner in my LU and no one else…Depressing.

  • BIF

    @mgravity said...

    Once again I have a first time winner in my LU and no one else…Depressing.

    Yah your week got off to a bad start again when D Lee pulled the plug.

    Send me a H2H if you wanna go again

  • Dewoc19

    $38 in $11.60 out and I had Bryson in 3/9 lineups, one was only a h2h, I went C Hoff over Stricker or ZJ cause I was worried about chalk, 100% KSDT and he was a huge disappointment, 70% Hearn buried me. I just over thought it this week being to worried about being to chalky and I can see now that that’s not an issuea

  • Genghis_Khan

    @superstars92 said...

    I definitely think a lot of you guys are better than me

    Uhh, you’re pretty damn good bro!

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