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  • Jshiffy

    Important: this is not an attack on Kyle, I’ve listened to some interviews with him and follow him on twitter and he seems like a cool guy, this is simply a question.

    That being said, has anybody had experience with Kyle scooping your NHL h2h this year? I feel like he has scooped exactly 1 of my $1 h2h before i can even reload the page no matter what time I create the game. Is it possible he is using a script or software?

  • soonerdawg

    I only read the first 5 pages….I’ve only posted H/H once, that was for MLB, i posted 25 contests….I expected these to fill pretty fast considering my low # of wins and my obvious lack of being a pro….surprisingly, I went to bed before they filled…the next day I noticed that there were a dozen or so unique players who had taken my games and not just one guy taking all of them…anyway, I got my dick smashed that day….

    I find it more preferable to just check throughout the day and find users who have low win totals and join their games…..There are still a good number of players you can find with fewer than X number of wins per sport, although I have proven that I can lose just as easily to Mr. 18 MLB wins as I can to Mr. 47,298 MLB wins

  • CrazyGabey

    FanDuel, I think I speak for most players here when I say we would still appreciate an answer. Did you approve his automated tool? Yes or no?

  • britdevine

    • 2014 StarStreet MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    He is back active now https://www.fanduel.com/users/kcannon

    After being suspended overnight

  • mrchuffy

    @britdevine said...

    He is back active now https://www.fanduel.com/users/kcannon

    After being suspended overnight

    Good job FD way to take serious action….

  • stoptheinsanity

    @britdevine said...

    He is back active now https://www.fanduel.com/users/kcannon

    After being suspended overnight

    Gotta love those 3 hour suspensions from FD. Why would anybody dare break the rules with such a harsh penalty?

  • bowens1984

    • 948

      RG Overall Ranking

    • 2014 StarStreet MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    • RG Season Champion: NBA

    Found the email chain on this suspension:

    FD rep: your account is suspended for a script we previously approved, what time do you plan to be asleep tonight

    kCannon: sleeping 2 am till 10 am

    Fdrep: cool, we will suspend you from 4am till 8am then, hope you learn your lesson and keep sending that rake our way

  • Ryazan

    • x3

      2015 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    • x2

      2015 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @britdevine said...

    Now that we see his account is suspended. It’s time for FD to really dig into what he was doing.

    If he has been taking $1 and $2 new player games for a significant time (looks like he has by some postings in here) using the script, It’s time for the sites to take those funds back that he won and distribute them back to the players he poached.

    And while your at it FD, stop waiting until this becomes an issue on RG to look into guys, and start actively monitoring this yourself.

    I urge any player that sees their games being taken near instantly by any account, to immediately bring it up on the forums, as that is currently the only way an issue seems to get resolved at this time.

    you can’t be serious. If FD were to ever take money out of my account, that’s a lawsuit.

  • walterg55

    @stoptheinsanity said...

    Gotta love those 3 hour suspensions from FD. Why would anybody dare break the rules with such a harsh penalty?

    I suspect that they gave him a warning and next time might be harsher. Don’t have a problem with their action. Better action than no action. Would have preferred some comment on RG by them.

  • Avgplayer

    @britdevine said...

    He is back active now https://www.fanduel.com/users/kcannon

    After being suspended overnight

    I love this industry and their transparency. (clap, clap)

    For them to take the time to address this issue. (fist bump)

    WTF they haven’t……but……. are you sure…………these ……..

  • stoptheinsanity

    @Ryazan said...

    you can’t be serious. If FD were to ever take money out of my account, that’s a lawsuit.

    The only way that post relates to you is if you break the rules. So are you saying you break the rules or?????

  • jimmyrad

    If wrongdoing was found a 3 hour ban is a slap in our faces. And doesn’t this seem like a good time to take the kid gloves off? also, this might be the right time to make the rules on botting KNOWN to your player base. Ban this nonsense or let us know what we’re up against, FFS.

  • old_T

    • 2016 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    What’s really troubling is that all of this is about someone using something that (it seems like) was approved by FD. If they can’t even keep that in check, then what else could the people who aren’t asking permission potentially be getting away with?

  • srolleDFS

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_pretenders

  • MikeMineo

    I’m guessing they banned the account temporarily while they conducted an internal investigation and found nothing wrong.

    Well, that’s what FD will say lol

  • entropy

    The best way I think to solve this problem in the future is not necessarily to ban scripting, but to find a way to a better way to match H2H fairly. If scripting were banned, I still would not risk posting in the lobby and be matched by a pro selecting games manually.

    My suggestion is that everyone who wants to play H2H is put in a pool and are ranked in order of H2H winning percentage. The bottom ranked player gets all his matches filled 1 at a time against the next highest ranked players above him. The players would be paired from the bottom up. This insures everyone plays opponents at an approximately equal level of skill. Players at the top of the list might not get all of their games filled, but my guess is that top grinders would avoid this pool like the plague. This system would be an option and does not replace the lobby nor challenging whomever you like.

  • Ryazan

    • x3

      2015 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    • x2

      2015 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @stoptheinsanity said...

    The only way that post relates to you is if you break the rules. So are you saying you break the rules or?????

    You cannot take money from one account and distribute into others. That’s a pretty communist approach. kCannon maybe broke a small rule, but he still beat people fairly by coming up with better lineups than his opponents., so that is his money and his money only.

  • tgowen

    • Blogger of the Month

    This is another issue where I really don’t care what happens regarding past issues. I do however care about what they (yes, DK I’m talking to you too) plan to do in the future. So many of these problems can be alleviated by not making 99% of your decisions based on what can benefit the top 1%. Get rid of allowing scripts, create reasonable volume limits, and you will be amazed at how positive people view DFS again.

  • srolleDFS

    @CrazyGabey said...

    FanDuel, I think I speak for most players here when I say we would still appreciate an answer. Did you approve his automated tool? Yes or no?

    cmon gabey. you have business relationships with at least one fanduel competitor (i dont know if you still have the old deals in place with the new deal). i dont care if you often dont disclose your conflicts of interest when you are posting, but to say you are speaking for all players…

    thats kind of over the line, when you have direct financial interest in people getting mad at fd and dk and trying out the site(s) you are repping.

  • madchuck

    @srolleDFS said...

    cmon gabey. you have business relationships with at least one fanduel competitor (i dont know if you still have the old deals in place with the new deal). i dont care if you often dont disclose your conflicts of interest when you are posting, but to say you are speaking for all players…

    thats kind of over the line, when you have direct financial interest in people getting mad at fd and dk and trying out the site(s) you are repping.

    He said he speaks for most players, not all players. And he was saying that based on the comments in the 11 page thread.

  • srolleDFS

    @madchuck said...

    He said he speaks for most players, not all players. And he was saying that based on the comments in the 11 page thread.

    im just saying that he should disclose his conflicts, when he is posting about a topic that is important to someone he is getting paid by. u against that?

    he can have whatever opinion he likes. thats what this forum is for. people expressing their opinions

  • WhiskeyTavon4

    • 932

      RG Overall Ranking

    • x2

      2014 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    • 2017 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    @srolleDFS said...

    im just saying that he should disclose his conflicts, when he is posting about a topic that is important to someone he is getting paid by. u against that?

    he can have whatever opinion he likes. thats what this forum is for. people expressing their opinions

    If everyone did that this forum would cease to exist.

  • CrazyGabey

    @srolleDFS said...

    cmon gabey. you have business relationships with at least one fanduel competitor (i dont know if you still have the old deals in place with the new deal). i dont care if you often dont disclose your conflicts of interest when you are posting, but to say you are speaking for all players…

    thats kind of over the line, when you have direct financial interest in people getting mad at fd and dk and trying out the site(s) you are repping.

    I had indirect financial interest in OwnThePlay.com before anything happened over the last week. You can check my Twitter account for verification. I have been tweeting a YouTube video where I talk about my relationship with them. You want more transparency than that?

    I have a promo code and make affiliate money. The same opportunity is available to everyone, including you. This opportunity is also available on every other site.

    I’ve put my support behind a site that I believe is operating in the best interest of the everyday, casual players (which make up a large portion of the current industry, and future customers). I made that decision to support a small site with a vision similar to mine roughly two months ago.

    For what it’s worth I also believe they have a SUSTAINABLE vision for growth. I don’t think it takes an economics major to recognize that a DFS bubble has been created by ridiculous spending.

    So yes, I have put my support behind a site that is (and was before all of this happened) operating as the antithesis to FD and DK.

    Why shouldn’t I stand behind a product I believe in?

  • Avgplayer

    @srolleDFS said...

    im just saying that he should disclose his conflicts, when he is posting about a topic that is important to someone he is getting paid by. u against that?

    he can have whatever opinion he likes. thats what this forum is for. people expressing their opinions

    Yeah, expressing their opinions on the topic, not derailing it. So lets keep our focus on the issues that have been discuss here. If you want to talk about something else make a new thread.

    Soooooooooooo FanDuel whats up!

  • crazypaul

    Looks like its suspended again

  • poonwhipped1

    Again a list from FD that shows who is allowed and who isn’t…christ is it that hard for a site to post this? OOOORRRRR (tin foil hat) can they NOT even monitor it?

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