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  • Jshiffy

    Important: this is not an attack on Kyle, I’ve listened to some interviews with him and follow him on twitter and he seems like a cool guy, this is simply a question.

    That being said, has anybody had experience with Kyle scooping your NHL h2h this year? I feel like he has scooped exactly 1 of my $1 h2h before i can even reload the page no matter what time I create the game. Is it possible he is using a script or software?

  • Ryazan

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    i really couldn’t think it’s any funnier than it is that you guys are flipping out over something i havent even cared about or thought about as I play every day, and make money. The TOS doesn’t matter to me. making money matters to me, i just put my lineups in win, why dont you all do the same?. You are all focused on the wrong things. Fanduel/DK, they will figure it out if there is something being violated. YOUR concern should be on winning, and not on other people who win.

    Seriously, too funny guys

  • Putz

    @britdevine said...

    The fact that FD let you snipe H2H games , even just one per player, without physically clicking the mouse, having to be at the computer, or letting anyone else have a chance to play the game thats taken because the guys doing are running software to insta snipe games is completely asinine.

    This is the next scandal waiting to happen.

    It is happening, Brit, along with bullying via Twitter and then taking all of his posted games for “complaining.”

  • rainbowtroutman

    @britdevine said...

    The fact that FD let you snipe H2H games , even just one per player, without physically clicking the mouse, having to be at the computer, or letting anyone else have a chance to play the game thats taken because the guys doing are running software to insta snipe games is completely asinine.

    This is the next scandal waiting to happen.

    And the NY AG is probably going to read this thread

  • Putz

    @Ryazan said...

    i really couldn’t think it’s any funnier than it is that you guys are flipping out over something i havent even cared about or thought about as I play every day, and make money. The TOS doesn’t matter to me. making money matters to me, i just put my lineups in win, why dont you all do the same?. You are all focused on the wrong things. Fanduel/DK, they will figure it out if there is something being violated. YOUR concern should be on winning, and not on other people who win.

    Seriously, too funny guys

    That’s the difference between you and me: both winners, but you are narcissistic, I’m altruistic.

  • ComicFx

    @rainbowtroutman said...

    And the NY AG is probably going to read this thread

    GOOD and if anything illegal has occurred I hope people go to prison and business are closed down.

  • rainbowtroutman

    @LarryLegend33 said...

    KCannon

    My bet is KCannon did not have permission. He was backed into a corner here and lied and then ran away

  • mrchuffy

    @Ryazan said...

    i really couldn’t think it’s any funnier than it is that you guys are flipping out over something i havent even cared about or thought about as I play every day, and make money. The TOS doesn’t matter to me. making money matters to me, i just put my lineups in win, why dont you all do the same?. You are all focused on the wrong things. Fanduel/DK, they will figure it out if there is something being violated. YOUR concern should be on winning, and not on other people who win.

    Seriously, too funny guys

    You are so arrogant there are many winning players in this thread.

  • LW1984

    FD should address this soon before it becomes a national story

  • poonwhipped1

    @srolleDFS said...

    would you guys be for or against a rule on rg that said that no one create a thread to single out and attack one person? does anyone think it is a good thing to all jump on a thread just to bash a person they’ve never met (for the most part) because they might or might not be doing something that is prohibited?

    Since the sites WON’T POLICE…the players have to do the leg work! How else will things CHANGE?

  • emac

    Hi Gamers, please refrain from name calling and inflammatory comments.

    After this week’s 170 page thread that went round the clock for three days, I am helping out the moderation team so they get a bit of a respite.

    They are more patient than I am, so again, please keep comments and conversations on topic.

    My preference would to not have to distribute any timeouts tonight.

    EMac

  • Putz

    @poonwhipped1 said...

    Since the sites WON’T POLICE…the players have to do the leg work! How else will things CHANGE?

    This is what is lost in all of this. It goes from conspiracy to build better lineups because you suck to bulld better ways to let the sites know of these issues instead of a message board.

  • Putz

    @emac said...

    Hi Gamers, please refrain from name calling and inflammatory comments.

    After this week’s 170 page thread that went round the clock for three days, I am helping out the moderation team so they get a bit of a respite.

    They are more patient than I am, so again, please keep comments and conversations on topic.

    My preference would to not have to distribute any timeouts tonight.

    EMac

    Understood.

  • sports_nerd

    @emac said...

    Hi Gamers, please refrain from name calling and inflammatory comments.

    After this week’s 170 page thread that went round the clock for three days, I am helping out the moderation team so they get a bit of a respite.

    They are more patient than I am, so again, please keep comments and conversations on topic.

    My preference would to not have to distribute any timeouts tonight.

    EMac

    +1

  • eforsty

    This definitely should be a violation, but regardless of whether this violates terms of service or not the bigger issue here is perception. This makes DFS look shady and scares away potential players. DFS is changing, it has become a lot more mainstream and now lawyers/journalists are chomping at the bit to get their hands on controversial/unethical actions. Hopefully the DFS industry and player community takes this opportunity to clean up questionable actions such as this for the greater good of DFS’ future.

  • ComicFx

    @rainbowtroutman said...

    My bet is KCannon did not have permission. He was backed into a corner here and lied and then ran away

    This is WRONG!!!

    DO NOT make this about one person. No witch hunt here friend.

    The guy told us he had permission, told us he stopped, told us he ask FanDuel for further clarification.

    We need to be responsible here. I think Fanduel screwed up big time, but we need to stop with slander.

    Serious man. This is on FanDuel and nobody else right now.

  • rainbowtroutman

    @emac said...

    Hi Gamers, please refrain from name calling and inflammatory comments.

    After this week’s 170 page thread that went round the clock for three days, I am helping out the moderation team so they get a bit of a respite.

    They are more patient than I am, so again, please keep comments and conversations on topic.

    My preference would to not have to distribute any timeouts tonight.

    EMac

    sorry—just frustrated

  • lgp

    Seems pretty ridiculous that you are allowed to have a script that scoop up games for you (even if its just 1). I can’t imagine new players post that many H2Hs to begin with and this seems like a pretty easy to make them quit playing.

  • dude_abides7

    @lgp said...

    Seems pretty ridiculous that you are allowed to have a script that scoop up games for you (even if its just 1). I can’t imagine new players post that many H2Hs to begin with and this seems like a pretty easy to make them quit playing.

    Common sense….it is a beautiful thing to read. Couldn’t agree more.

  • emac

    @Putz said...

    Understood.

    Thanks Putz, besides if I have to keep an eye on this all night, then the CFB analysis will not be as robust for the show tomorrow…and how can we beat Uncle Hank without good info ;)

  • rainbowtroutman

    @ComicFx said...

    This is WRONG!!!

    DO NOT make this about one person. No witch hunt here friend.

    The guy told us he had permission, told us he stopped, told us he ask FanDuel for further clarification.

    We need to be responsible here. I think Fanduel screwed up big time, but we need to stop with slander.

    Serious man. This is on FanDuel and nobody else right now.

    sorry

  • ComicFx

    @rainbowtroutman said...

    sorry

    No worries man

  • mannmicj

    @emac said...

    Thanks Putz, besides if I have to keep an eye on this all night, then the CFB analysis will not be as robust for the show tomorrow…and how can we beat Uncle Hank without good info ;)

    This is the best point made recently. Be good so EMAC can get my research together :)

  • Putz

    @mannmicj said...

    This is the best point made recently. Be good so EMAC can get my research together :)

    No, you need to lose to Unclehank.

  • Gsulaw16

    The sites really could benefit from in-house counsel. If fanduel gave permission, that is the definition of making an individual exception to a generalized rule which is generally a terrible idea if you don’t notify all users of the exception. Just having the exception policy in place is a plantiff’s attorneys dream unfortunately.

  • Cal

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    Hey guys,

    Please do not spread misinformation. Also, do not name-call and and just be overly aggressive. Had to delete a lot of posts in this thread.

    Here’s what Fanduel says in their TOS about this. This was addressed in a post on RotoGrinders here.

    As a condition of use, you promise not to use the Services for any purpose that is unlawful or prohibited by these Terms, or any other purpose not reasonably intended by FanDuel. By way of example, and not as a limitation, you agree not to:

    use any robot, spider, scraper, sniping software or other automated means to access the Service for any purpose (except for RSS feed access) without our express written permission. Additionally, you agree that you will not: (1) take any action that imposes, or may impose in our sole discretion an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure; (2) interfere or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Service or any activities conducted on the Service; or (3) bypass any measures we may use to prevent or restrict access to the Service;

    Edit I’m not saying Kcannon’s script has been approved – I’m saying that those saying it’s violating Fanduel’s TOS are spreading misinformation because we don’t know if it has been approved or not.

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