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  • killab2482

    • 2018 DraftKings FBBWC Finalist

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      2013 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    Hey RG Members, I’ve decided to dip my toes in the DFS coaching arena. I’ve missed the days of helping students crush NL Hold’em back in the day. Coaching was essential for me to improve my overall poker game and I would not have reached the levels I did without some grooming/tutorship from fellow pros. I always want to be a student of the game in certain aspects(constant need to improve/learn) and teaching the game to others. Coaching has helped me stay hungry and refocus my attention to the process(long term) and not the results (short term).

    With that said, I have to be one of the first ever players to find the great game of DFS back when I was full time poker grinder. I joined a site called Instant Fantasy Sports in 2007: http://instantfantasysports.blogspot.com/. I have over 15 million invested in games since my software/computer/sites started tracking results in 2012. With my background as a poker player, I understood the nuances of Bankroll management, risk, variance and game theory that has helped me be super profitable in this industry. I’m excited to unlock some new concepts to future students or plug up certain leaks(known or unknown) that you have in your overall game. Each student has their own strengths and weaknesses and I will construct my teaching around that specific individual.

    In this dfs age of higher rake (18%, c’mon man!), it’s not as easy to profit. Lets plug your holes and make you the best dfs version of you. Here’s a link to view a more in depth coaching profile outline: https://rotogrinders.com/articles/killab2482-s-coaching-profile-2357554. Contact me via twitter: @killab2482 or through dm on rotogrinders (killab2482) and we can set up Skype or Google hangout schedule that works for the both of us!

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  • drewcrawford03

    • 2019 FanDuel FantaSea Finalist

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    • 2018 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    @Yahoo302 said...

    Can you teach me how to file the 1099? I just got one a few days ago… No idea how to file taxes…

    Sure, DM me sir

  • tomac

    @Ross said...

    Coaching is not open to everyone at this time, but we can take a list of interested Coaches for the future. Like I said earlier this is still a test run of the coaching platform and we have added very few coaches during this time.
    The feedback and suggestions we recieve from users will determine what happens to it in the future.
    If the user feedback is good we will likely rework and improve the current system so it can be opened to more coaches.

    So there is a vetting process?

    This process has to include some sort of data, I would imagine. Otherwise guys like Dan, Travis, Cal and Meansy would look pretty stupid offering testimonials. Right?

  • nicholasmarsh

    @tomac said...

    So there is a vetting process?

    This process has to include some sort of data, I would imagine. Otherwise guys like Dan, Travis, Cal and Meansy would look pretty stupid offering testimonials. Right?

    Right… I don’t really care either way, but why/how is killab2482 qualified to coach? I’m just curious how good at DFS you’d have to be or who you have to know (this shouldn’t matter) to be considered for a “coaching ad”…

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  • MinusEV

    This all takes me back to the days of playing poker online and and reading 2+2…. Always a new angle, scam or drama going on.

    Biggest difference now is that it’s a lot harder to sniff out the guys shooting angles in DFS… and DK and FD certainly have no interest in cleaning up the industry. They only care about that Rake so they can keep the doors open for a little while longer.

    (just my 2 cents… I won’t be back in this thread)

  • noheartanthony

    @Ross said...

    Coaching is not open to everyone at this time, but we can take a list of interested Coaches for the future. Like I said earlier this is still a test run of the coaching platform and we have added very few coaches during this time.
    The feedback and suggestions we recieve from users will determine what happens to it in the future.
    If the user feedback is good we will likely rework and improve the current system so it can be opened to more coaches.

    This is beginning to sound like a Paul Ryan press release….

    Just let people know what the requirements are. If you have to be a friend of friend, so be it.

  • GiantBallofOil

    Talk about an “Ahha” moment.

    I was browsing the happenings here, so confused. Why would one of the investors be on here, coming off as a jilted lover? Also, didn’t we win around $100k, netting out 2013 and 2014? Then, Brett posted that it was the guy I replaced, and everything became crystal clear!

    While I had precisely zero overlap with Mike, the first thing that was made clear to me when I started was that we needed to change every password. It clearly hadn’t ended well, and he was the sort of person that … well … we needed to change the passwords for. I can buy that he (Mike) is just looking out for people, and that’s fine. But, if you’re trying to understand why he’s sitting, staring at his computer, hitting refresh, not able to respond to everyone’s post fast enough, that is easily explained away by his departure.

    Anyway, I think I may have the most insight into this entire kerfuffle, save for Brett himself, so let me expand a bit. I’ve known Brett forever. We went to elementary school together, lived together for a year in college, and have been friends that whole time.

    As to the poker stuff, I can’t corroborate stakes or anything of that nature, but I can say that during the time he was only playing poker, he had the sorts of things your friends who do well have. Multiple cars/trucks paid for in cash, a big house with a theater in the basement, and tons of travelling. I realize that this doesn’t do much for you if you’re picking through the minutia of his stakes, but this is the anecdotal evidence I can contribute. He did well playing poker.

    As to “the business,” here’s what I can share. My setup was such that I didn’t invest anything into the pool, received a slight percentage of the profit if we won and nothing if we lost. While we had ups and downs, it was worth it to me, as I started out literally knowing nothing about DFS and now it’s one of my favorite things to do. (I think I saw someone refer to us three as a “pool of DFS Pros.” Rest assured, I started in 2013 without a single entry under my belt.)

    I’m not home now, but I don’t have any issue posting my 1099 from Brett from 2013. My cut was around $3,000.

    Brett had been really successful leading up to 2013, which should be mentioned. Those results were the reason people invested. I think Brett’s reasoning was that if he was creating lineups that were profitable, it made sense to get as much money invested in those lineups as possible. He has never said this, but it seems to me the arrangement was a direct descendant of “selling pieces of yourself” in poker. Maybe that was just my read, but they do share a striking resemblance.

    Also, for what it’s worth, I totally understand where Mike generated his frustration. Curt and I were there to offer opinions, but ultimately everything was Brett’s call, for better or for worse. That could be frustrating. When you consider he was in for $50,000 and then $100,000, while we were in for nothing, it made sense. Frustrating, never-the-less.

    When he started playing college football (RIP) independent of the investors in 2014 and having loads of success doing it, I know I felt his research time was being split up too much. Also, his girlfriend of like 15 years and him ended it for good in the fall/winter of 2014, which didn’t help things with time nor focus. At the time, it was frustrating. Now, with the benefit of hindsight, I understand it wasn’t easy on him.

    As to the rate he’s charging and his profitability and all that, here’s what I can say. I learned a ton from those two years working with Brett. When you literally enter every single contest you can find, you really get to understand how things work. In addition to the player specific stuff, some of the business-type stuff Brett focuses on only gets lip service from most, such as maximizing your dollars where they are most profitable. I can confirm he’s playing $30,000 most NBA nights, and that most of it is not on the big two sites for a reason. It’s more profitable elsewhere (for him, anyway).

    I can also say that for the volume he’s playing, you’re either profitable or you’re gone, especially over two plus years in multiple sports, since the end of the business. I haven’t been keeping a spreadsheet with his profits/losses like I did in 2013-14, so I won’t guess at the exact level of profit. I just know that if he was losing, he’d stop.

    I don’t plan to stick around here and religiously reply to posts, but I’ll be back at some point. If anyone wants to grill me about Brett or the business, have at it.

  • phillygamecox

    I think what is concerning when it comes to these sort of “Ads” is that you instantly see several admins imply that this is a smart investment for those looking to improve. IMO it’s a slippery slope to have Ross say “We only supply the platform for them to list their coaching ad” and then have admins automatically praising the coach. IMO, if RG wants to keep this as transparent as possible, it would likely be best to not automatically chime in with an endorsement from an admin.

    I could personally care less if these type of coaches are in every other thread – I’d just scroll on by and pass. But new players get added to RG every day could easily think that if the co-founder of the company is vouching for this guy, it’s a wise investment for me to do so.

  • Ross
    @noheartanthony said...

    Just let people know what the requirements are. If you have to be a friend of friend, so be it.

    Not exactly, but it does have to be someone well known within the community or by the RG staff at this time. A big reason for this is because the transactions are not processed by RotoGrinders while we are testing a coaching platform.This helps ensure users are not taken advantage of or paying for a product they do not recieve.

    If we decided to move forward with a full coaching platform after this test run that would be changed and coaching would be open to more people.

  • icemanyeee

    no kidding it was worth it, you didn’t have to invest any money, all profit lol

  • tomac

    @Ross said...

    Not exactly, but it does have to be someone well known within the community or by the RG staff at this time. A big reason for this is because the transactions are not processed by RotoGrinders while we are testing a coaching platform.This helps ensure users are not taken advantage of or paying for a product they do not recieve.

    If we decided to move forward with a full coaching platform after this test run that would be changed and coaching would be open to more people.

    Shouldn’t this be attached to every post about coaching then, similar to the way you put a disclaimer on forum posts with users offering contests, etc?

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  • Ross
    @tomac said...

    Most industry tests are done at cost to the business, not the client Ross.

    So these guys should offer their services for free? This test is to see if WE want to expand the platform or not. Us choosing to limit the coaching pool during this time cost the clients nothing.

    I think maybe there is some confusion or messages getting mixed together. I was just trying to explain the role we play in the coaching platform and possible ideas for the future.

    You can read more here: https://rotogrinders.com/coaching

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  • sochoice

    • 2017 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    • 2017 FanDuel WFFC Champion

    @GiantBallofOil said...

    Talk about an “Ahha” moment.

    I was browsing the happenings here, so confused. Why would one of the investors be on here, coming off as a jilted lover? Also, didn’t we win around $100k, netting out 2013 and 2014? Then, Brett posted that it was the guy I replaced, and everything became crystal clear!

    While I had precisely zero overlap with Mike, the first thing that was made clear to me when I started was that we needed to change every password. It clearly hadn’t ended well, and he was the sort of person that … well … we needed to change the passwords for. I can buy that he (Mike) is just looking out for people, and that’s fine. But, if you’re trying to understand why he’s sitting, staring at his computer, hitting refresh, not able to respond to everyone’s post fast enough, that is easily explained away by his departure.

    Anyway, I think I may have the most insight into this entire kerfuffle, save for Brett himself, so let me expand a bit. I’ve known Brett forever. We went to elementary school together, lived together for a year in college, and have been friends that whole time.

    As to the poker stuff, I can’t corroborate stakes or anything of that nature, but I can say that during the time he was only playing poker, he had the sorts of things your friends who do well have. Multiple cars/trucks paid for in cash, a big house with a theater in the basement, and tons of travelling. I realize that this doesn’t do much for you if you’re picking through the minutia of his stakes, but this is the anecdotal evidence I can contribute. He did well playing poker.

    As to “the business,” here’s what I can share. My setup was such that I didn’t invest anything into the pool, received a slight percentage of the profit if we won and nothing if we lost. While we had ups and downs, it was worth it to me, as I started out literally knowing nothing about DFS and now it’s one of my favorite things to do. (I think I saw someone refer to us three as a “pool of DFS Pros.” Rest assured, I started in 2013 without a single entry under my belt.)

    I’m not home now, but I don’t have any issue posting my 1099 from Brett from 2013. My cut was around $3,000.

    Brett had been really successful leading up to 2013, which should be mentioned. Those results were the reason people invested. I think Brett’s reasoning was that if he was creating lineups that were profitable, it made sense to get as much money invested in those lineups as possible. He has never said this, but it seems to me the arrangement was a direct descendant of “selling pieces of yourself” in poker. Maybe that was just my read, but they do share a striking resemblance.

    Also, for what it’s worth, I totally understand where Mike generated his frustration. Curt and I were there to offer opinions, but ultimately everything was Brett’s call, for better or for worse. That could be frustrating. When you consider he was in for $50,000 and then $100,000, while we were in for nothing, it made sense. Frustrating, never-the-less.

    When he started playing college football (RIP) independent of the investors in 2014 and having loads of success doing it, I know I felt his research time was being split up too much. Also, his girlfriend of like 15 years and him ended it for good in the fall/winter of 2014, which didn’t help things with time nor focus. At the time, it was frustrating. Now, with the benefit of hindsight, I understand it wasn’t easy on him.

    As to the rate he’s charging and his profitability and all that, here’s what I can say. I learned a ton from those two years working with Brett. When you literally enter every single contest you can find, you really get to understand how things work. In addition to the player specific stuff, some of the business-type stuff Brett focuses on only gets lip service from most, such as maximizing your dollars where they are most profitable. I can confirm he’s playing $30,000 most NBA nights, and that most of it is not on the big two sites for a reason. It’s more profitable elsewhere (for him, anyway).

    I can also say that for the volume he’s playing, you’re either profitable or you’re gone, especially over two plus years in multiple sports, since the end of the business. I haven’t been keeping a spreadsheet with his profits/losses like I did in 2013-14, so I won’t guess at the exact level of profit. I just know that if he was losing, he’d stop.

    I don’t plan to stick around here and religiously reply to posts, but I’ll be back at some point. If anyone wants to grill me about Brett or the business, have at it.

    Very thoughtful post. The people on here whining and complaining likely won’t take the time to read it or they will claim you are lying. All that can be said is……

    “You know, Darren, if you had told me twenty-five years ago that some day I’d be standing here about to solve the world’s energy problems, I would’ve said you were crazy. Now let’s push this giant ball of oil out this window.”

  • killab2482

    • 2018 DraftKings FBBWC Finalist

    • x2

      2013 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    “Why would one of the investors be on here, coming off as a jilted lover?”

    He was never an investor in the company. Just a pure worker with no skin in the game. Just to clarify I was always an investor and the main worker behind the whole operation. Curt and Luke always maintained full time jobs, but they helped manage sites, get clicks in, and help with lineup formations based upon research.

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  • jkidd1084

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    • 2015 FanDuel MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    @GiantBallofOil said...

    Talk about an “Ahha” moment.

    I was browsing the happenings here, so confused. Why would one of the investors be on here, coming off as a jilted lover? Also, didn’t we win around $100k, netting out 2013 and 2014? Then, Brett posted that it was the guy I replaced, and everything became crystal clear!

    While I had precisely zero overlap with Mike, the first thing that was made clear to me when I started was that we needed to change every password. It clearly hadn’t ended well, and he was the sort of person that … well … we needed to change the passwords for. I can buy that he (Mike) is just looking out for people, and that’s fine. But, if you’re trying to understand why he’s sitting, staring at his computer, hitting refresh, not able to respond to everyone’s post fast enough, that is easily explained away by his departure.

    Anyway, I think I may have the most insight into this entire kerfuffle, save for Brett himself, so let me expand a bit. I’ve known Brett forever. We went to elementary school together, lived together for a year in college, and have been friends that whole time.

    As to the poker stuff, I can’t corroborate stakes or anything of that nature, but I can say that during the time he was only playing poker, he had the sorts of things your friends who do well have. Multiple cars/trucks paid for in cash, a big house with a theater in the basement, and tons of travelling. I realize that this doesn’t do much for you if you’re picking through the minutia of his stakes, but this is the anecdotal evidence I can contribute. He did well playing poker.

    As to “the business,” here’s what I can share. My setup was such that I didn’t invest anything into the pool, received a slight percentage of the profit if we won and nothing if we lost. While we had ups and downs, it was worth it to me, as I started out literally knowing nothing about DFS and now it’s one of my favorite things to do. (I think I saw someone refer to us three as a “pool of DFS Pros.” Rest assured, I started in 2013 without a single entry under my belt.)

    I’m not home now, but I don’t have any issue posting my 1099 from Brett from 2013. My cut was around $3,000.

    Brett had been really successful leading up to 2013, which should be mentioned. Those results were the reason people invested. I think Brett’s reasoning was that if he was creating lineups that were profitable, it made sense to get as much money invested in those lineups as possible. He has never said this, but it seems to me the arrangement was a direct descendant of “selling pieces of yourself” in poker. Maybe that was just my read, but they do share a striking resemblance.

    Also, for what it’s worth, I totally understand where Mike generated his frustration. Curt and I were there to offer opinions, but ultimately everything was Brett’s call, for better or for worse. That could be frustrating. When you consider he was in for $50,000 and then $100,000, while we were in for nothing, it made sense. Frustrating, never-the-less.

    When he started playing college football (RIP) independent of the investors in 2014 and having loads of success doing it, I know I felt his research time was being split up too much. Also, his girlfriend of like 15 years and him ended it for good in the fall/winter of 2014, which didn’t help things with time nor focus. At the time, it was frustrating. Now, with the benefit of hindsight, I understand it wasn’t easy on him.

    As to the rate he’s charging and his profitability and all that, here’s what I can say. I learned a ton from those two years working with Brett. When you literally enter every single contest you can find, you really get to understand how things work. In addition to the player specific stuff, some of the business-type stuff Brett focuses on only gets lip service from most, such as maximizing your dollars where they are most profitable. I can confirm he’s playing $30,000 most NBA nights, and that most of it is not on the big two sites for a reason. It’s more profitable elsewhere (for him, anyway).

    I can also say that for the volume he’s playing, you’re either profitable or you’re gone, especially over two plus years in multiple sports, since the end of the business. I haven’t been keeping a spreadsheet with his profits/losses like I did in 2013-14, so I won’t guess at the exact level of profit. I just know that if he was losing, he’d stop.

    I don’t plan to stick around here and religiously reply to posts, but I’ll be back at some point. If anyone wants to grill me about Brett or the business, have at it.

    I appreciate your honesty and transparency here. We obviously don’t know each other. That password thing is news to me. That is beyond dramatic. What would I do? Clearly, that was Brett being ridiculous. I’ve been good friends Chase for over ten years (who was backing this.. I was literally in his wedding). Did Brett really think I’d do something to sabotage CHases investment? Comical. Even if he weren’t involved, the thought is insane.. I never said Brett has never done well at anything. Nor did I say he has struggling for cash five years ago. All I pointed out was that he was in no way the “25-50 reg” he claimed. Nor was he coaching people for $500/hour. The reason this is so relevant, is because he used these points IN THIS THREAD to try to justify his pricing and prove his credibility.

    All of this said, both you and Brett have confirmed everything I have said about his tendencies. In a decade of poker, and continued into DFS, he has NEVER been able to beat the games on DK, FD, or FTP/PS in the poker days. He has been a bottom feeder literally since I met him. Is that really someone you should be paying for coaching? Someone that admits to only playing on sites with 100%+ rakeback and yahoo DFS and rake free games? Clearly, CLEARLY, they aren’t very good.

    You keep mentioning all the things that he used to have, but you fail to recognize that the cars, house, etc have been sold and he has told people that he is broke.

    Backed in high stakes, starts playing lower, starts playing softer sites, starts telling people he’s busto, starts offering coaching. Am I insane to think there’s a trend here?

    Do what you all want, I feel like I’m beating this point to death, but people continue to bring it up over and over again

    Oh yea, you seem super excited about making 3 grand over a 5 month stretch. I find that odd. Also, even if what you say is true and the net was 100k across two years. Is 100k split between 7 guys (4 investors and 3 of you doing it?) investing millions of dollars across a 2 year window really supposed to be impressive? Especially when rake was lower and games were a ton softer? I’m lost.

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  • tomac

    @Ross said...

    So these guys should offer their services for free? This test is to see if WE want to expand the platform or not. Us choosing to limit the coaching pool during this time cost the clients nothing.

    I think maybe there is some confusion or messages getting mixed together. I was just trying to explain the role we play in the coaching platform and possible ideas for the future.

    I apologize for the confusion and amended my post. When I read it a second time, I got what you were saying. You are correct.

  • tomac

    I think if RG could just explain what the process is, that would alleviate a lot of the confusion.

  • awesemo

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      2018 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    • 2017 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    I don’t think many of the criticisms here are valid. You don’t need any qualifications to offer coaching; it’s up to the potential clients to decide whether or not it’s worth the money from the available information. It sounds like with the staking, it didn’t work out, but it didn’t sound like he did anything untrustworthy. And in my opinion, $150 per hour isn’t outrageous for DFS coaching given the amount of money involved, and the limited supply of coaches.

  • jkidd1084

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    • 2015 FanDuel MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    @killab2482 said...

    “Why would one of the investors be on here, coming off as a jilted lover?”

    He was never an investor in the company. Just a pure worker with no skin in the game. Just to clarify I was always an investor and the main worker behind the whole operation. Curt and Luke always maintained full time jobs, but they helped manage sites, get clicks in, and help with lineup formations based upon research.

    OI

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  • cjhart1454

    First of all, let me be fully transparent that I am Brett’s brother. I was the one that worked with Mike during 2013. I am not going to speak to their relationship and subsequent falling out. I want to simply set the record straight from things that have been said.

    Mike – your argument regarding him being broke is purely false. You may not see him playing high stakes on Fanduel or Draftkings but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t play them altogether. I think anyone who plays on FantasyDraft or Yahoo can back me up when I say he is one of a handful of players playing at the high stakes cash games nightly. If he isn’t sitting, I can assure you he is watching the lobby regularly for players he doesn’t recognize at those levels. He has a lot of respect for those that sit at those levels regularly. I am sure you can relate to “getting your money in good.”

    I know you also have been playing for a number of years. I think you can relate to the rake that is taken on Fanduel and Draftkings. Brett is always looking for any edge in fantasy or anything he does, all daily fantasy players should be as a general rule of thumb. FantasyDraft has been his main site due to the rake free option up until a couple months ago. Yahoo has given out reload bonuses which help him manage the rake. All of this allows a big volume player to maximize their bankroll. So, yes you are correct when you say he isn’t as visible on Draftkings and Fanduel. Those sites are known for their large guaranteed prize pools. He has found other sites that will allow him to get his nightly cash game volume in at a much lower juice. Again, I think you can appreciate that coming from the poker world.

    Lastly, you are stating the obvious with NFL daily fantasy. You will not find more variance in a sport BUT that is where the big money resides. If you play daily NBA, you should know there isn’t as much variance. Subsequently, this is where Brett’s success has been the last 3-4 years. He realized the number of betting days in NBA are much greater than 17 weeks of NFL which leads to less variance. Even the best (STLcards, noto, CSU, etc.) see their variances. The good players find ways to minimize it. I apologize for stating the obvious but it seems to be lost in your opinion, simply NOT facts, of Brett thus far.

    I am not here to bash you but I think you need to fact check your sources. To say he is “broke” is a blatant lie. I can appreciate you looking out for the RG players, especially those who don’t play under larger bankrolls like myself. In the same breath, I think many could benefit from Brett’s discipline and knowledge that he has continually improved since you and I were involved.

    To all of you Grinders, best of luck for those of you grinding NBA tonight.

  • reztes757

    2013 DD BLB Finalist (x2)

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    Can you please post a link to more info on your ICO. I’m really curious now. Also what is your role? Seems like you have a lot of other obligations to be taking in public money for a Blockchain project?

  • Njsum1

    Although wildly entertaining, don’t get me wrong, I’m loving it as we haven’t had this much buzz around here since DK got rid of late swap for NBA. However, this thread should have been locked after KillaB announced he was coaching. I didn’t need to read the ridiculous testimonials or the caveat emptor of the naysayers. We’re all supposedly grown ups here, we can do our own due diligence.

    Advice…in the future RG…next time a coach announces themselves…lock the thread. And on the coaches page don’t allow them to post prices. Simply have them write “for pricing and packages contact me directly.”

  • jkidd1084

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    • 2015 FanDuel MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    @cjhart1454 said...

    First of all, let me be fully transparent that I am Brett’s brother. I was the one that worked with Mike during 2013. I am not going to speak to their relationship and subsequent falling out. I want to simply set the record straight from things that have been said.

    Mike – your argument regarding him being broke is purely false. You may not see him playing high stakes on Fanduel or Draftkings but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t play them altogether. I think anyone who plays on FantasyDraft or Yahoo can back me up when I say he is one of a handful of players playing at the high stakes cash games nightly. If he isn’t sitting, I can assure you he is watching the lobby regularly for players he doesn’t recognize at those levels. He has a lot of respect for those that sit at those levels regularly. I am sure you can relate to “getting your money in good.”

    I know you also have been playing for a number of years. I think you can relate to the rake that is taken on Fanduel and Draftkings. Brett is always looking for any edge in fantasy or anything he does, all daily fantasy players should be as a general rule of thumb. FantasyDraft has been his main site due to the rake free option up until a couple months ago. Yahoo has given out reload bonuses which help him manage the rake. All of this allows a big volume player to maximize their bankroll. So, yes you are correct when you say he isn’t as visible on Draftkings and Fanduel. Those sites are known for their large guaranteed prize pools. He has found other sites that will allow him to get his nightly cash game volume in at a much lower juice. Again, I think you can appreciate that coming from the poker world.

    Lastly, you are stating the obvious with NFL daily fantasy. You will not find more variance in a sport BUT that is where the big money resides. If you play daily NBA, you should know there isn’t as much variance. Subsequently, this is where Brett’s success has been the last 3-4 years. He realized the number of betting days in NBA are much greater than 17 weeks of NFL which leads to less variance. Even the best (STLcards, noto, CSU, etc.) see their variances. The good players find ways to minimize it. I apologize for stating the obvious but it seems to be lost in your opinion, simply NOT facts, of Brett thus far.

    I am not here to bash you but I think you need to fact check your sources. To say he is “broke” is a blatant lie. I can appreciate you looking out for the RG players, especially those who don’t play under larger bankrolls like myself. In the same breath, I think many could benefit from Brett’s discipline and knowledge that he has continually improved since you and I were involved.

    To all of you Grinders, best of luck for those of you grinding NBA tonight.

    If he has continually improved, why has he ignored repeated requests from multiple people to simply share his results. For someone that is so disciplined and with such a strong math and analytical background, why is it so hard to just say BAM, look, here is the proof that I crush these games and deserve to be on here coaching. It’s that simple, no? It would take me literally like 15 minutes to get that information for someone.

    I totally get game selection. Of course it is a huge part of what we do and have done in the past. As much as I understand it and apply it to my own life, I still believe someone that has truly mastered their craft would be able to beat the main games on the main sites. Not playing any of the games, to me, means he knows he can’t beat them. If you can’t beat cash games on DK/FD, that’s fine. Blame the rake, that’s certainly within reason. BUT, if you can’t beat the rake on any of the major sites, why in the world are you trying to profit off of coaching others? Admitting that you aren’t even in the top 50? 100? players in the game and having the nuts to ask 250/hr and embellish everything from your past? Come on.. He’s coaching because he needs money and can’t beat the game. Think what you want, maybe he’s got too much pride to be honest with you, I don’t know. What solid DFS player puts 95% of their volume on Yahoo and Fantasy Draft?

  • bhdevault

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    @Njsum1 said...

    Although wildly entertaining, don’t get me wrong, I’m loving it as we haven’t had this much buzz around here since DK got rid of late swap for NBA. However, this thread should have been locked after KillaB announced he was coaching. I didn’t need to read the ridiculous testimonials or the caveat emptor of the naysayers. We’re all supposedly grown ups here, we can do our own due diligence.

    Advice…in the future RG…next time a coach announces themselves…lock the thread. And on the coaches page don’t allow them to post prices. Simply have them write “for pricing and packages contact me directly.”

    Good post and to be honest it has merit. Will definitely contemplate this going forward.

  • phillygamecox

    @bhdevault said...

    Good post and to be honest it has merit. Will definitely contemplate this going forward.

    Agreed – and this would also help with my post stating that the admins/co-founder should in no way instantly vouch for any coach – no matter how good they may be. Let the community decide if a coach is worth their time without any internal influence.

  • noheartanthony

    @Njsum1 said...

    Although wildly entertaining, don’t get me wrong, I’m loving it as we haven’t had this much buzz around here since DK got rid of late swap for NBA. However, this thread should have been locked after KillaB announced he was coaching. I didn’t need to read the ridiculous testimonials or the caveat emptor of the naysayers. We’re all supposedly grown ups here, we can do our own due diligence.

    Advice…in the future RG…next time a coach announces themselves…lock the thread. And on the coaches page don’t allow them to post prices. Simply have them write “for pricing and packages contact me directly.”

    Agreed-though I believe now that the post should probably stay open and be allowed to burn itself out for the sake of transparency.

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