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  • CantCatchABreak99

    There are a number of lineup sellers out there that DraftKings knows about. In Single Entry Double Ups and Single Entry Tourneys, lineup sellers artificially inflate the cash lines. Selling lineups violates DraftKings terms of service. I’ve brought this to their attention on numerous occasions. They have assured me that something is being done about it, but it’s been nearly a year and they continue to do nothing. (I have gone beyond working with customer support and have exchanged emails with CEO Jason Robins, yet still nothing has been done.) I would hope that some media attention on this issue would force DraftKings to take action. Curious if anyone out there has any ideas on how to go about it. In the 10/22/2018 Single Entry $25 Double Up there were more than 100 lineups IN THE MONEY that were identical. The players purchasing these lineups are doing nothing but inflating the cash lines of the cash games and single entry tourneys. When one person finishes ahead of me that’s one thing, but when that same person sells his lineup to more than 100 people then it artificially inflates the cash line. People are losing money because of this issue and it needs to stop.

  • TheRyanFlaherty

    @toasty99 said...

    Lineup selling isn’t a good thing but does it really matter? If everyone else uses the same lineup that helps you…. All you have to do is beat that one lineup.

    And who buys lineups? Players not good enough to build and win with their own lineups.
    People want to know where the “edge” has gone. Might have something to do with 10% or so, whatever percentage, of losing players using professionally built lineups.
    I’d much rather take my chances with being more profitable over time competing against a multitude of potentially crap lineups over having to beat a condensed field with multiple duplicate entries from professional optimizers and lineup sellers.

  • edro990

    @DraftKings_CM said...

    If you look closer, there is more to this than what you see at first glance. The media companies you describe do not use our player pricing when sharing their complete lineup suggestions, so the lineups they share may not even fit. Many content providers offer partial lineup suggestions, some offer core suggestions with pivots. We encourage providers to share their suggestions so long as they abide by our Terms of Service, the Fair Play Commitment, and the Community Guidelines.

    – DraftKings Community Team

    Never said I felt the DFS companies were complicit in this, but thanks for the feedback. It doesn’t change my opinion, but thanks.

  • stv1313

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    @TheRyanFlaherty said...

    I’d much rather take my chances with being more profitable over time competing against a multitude of potentially crap lineups over having to beat a condensed field with multiple duplicate entries from professional optimizers and lineup sellers.

    Has anyone else noticed that a well-known lineup seller has seemingly disappeared from FantasyDraft? It was getting rather annoying playing 10-man contests to find that 3-4 of the participants (a high percentage for a 10-man contest) had the exact same lineup and, unconcerned with the optics, posted the logo of the lineup seller as their individual avators? I assume that the users received a discount for posting the avator of the lineup seller.

    Those players seem to have disappeared the past 30 (or so) days. Either the lineup seller didn’t produce good lineups or, more likely, FantasyDraft actually took some action and banned those players. I don’t know the answer but I’m happy that, nowadays, I’m usually playing against 9 unique lineups each night when I play on FantasyDraft.

  • scott33

    @stv1313 said...

    Has anyone else noticed that a well-known lineup seller has seemingly disappeared from FantasyDraft? It was getting rather annoying playing 10-man contests to find that 3-4 of the participants (a high percentage for a 10-man contest) had the exact same lineup and, unconcerned with the optics, posted the logo of the lineup seller as their individual avators? I assume that the users received a discount for posting the avator of the lineup seller.

    Those players seem to have disappeared the past 30 (or so) days. Either the lineup seller didn’t produce good lineups or, more likely, FantasyDraft actually took some action and banned those players. I don’t know the answer but I’m happy that, nowadays, I’m usually playing against 9 unique lineups each night when I play on FantasyDraft.

    Nice man, glad that they’re gone. Kudos to FantasyDraft if they indeed took action. That’s the way it should be.

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