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  • superstars92

    Kunu88/aboveandbeyond/MakeItRain84/Daut44/aejones (5 users) all have EXACT same lineup (same order) in my 1k double up (with only 55 entries)

    I just find this funny because I used to read about some other people posting how Kunu88/MakeItRain84/Daut44/etc. collude, and these users (check their post history) would post like “why would we collude, it’s negative EV to collude when there are so few people in a double up, blah, blah, blah,” or something like “yea we just share some projections, but we would never share the same lineup.” It’s actually funny because your EV doesn’t actually get hurt if you have identical lineups as everyone else (it’s still the same EV), and I love how they tried to use this flawed math argument to try and “convince” people they don’t actually collude or have any incentive to collude.

    The 1k double up only has 55 users, and these 5 have the exact same lineup (no other team is duplicated except this team). 55 is a small number of people too. It’s obvious they worked together because not only do they have the exact same lineup, but all players are in the same order.

    Personally, I don’t actually care because it doesn’t affect my EV either (I either beat all 5 or lose to all 5), but I do care that these people want to try and convince people that they don’t actually work together when they obviously do (which might be a violation in itself? – not positive on the exact rule, but it doesn’t sound ethical). For me, the lying and trying to give some BS arguments is worse than actually having the same lineup.

    Seeing this, I have way more respect for users like SaahilSud, youdacao, underjones, rayofhope, BirdWings, CSURAM88, Notorious, etc. (who ever else is in the same double up) because at least they are coming up with things on their own, and even if they do work with others, at least they aren’t so blatantly obvious and then try to come up with some BS excuse like they don’t actually collude.

  • pghrdv

    What I really think might be happening is that the pros or someone is selling !ineups like gambling sites sell picks to bet on in games! Do you think that is a possibility?? It seems to happen more than anyone notices but there are times that I see multiple ppl with same lineups just as you see notice it too?? Just a thought what’s your thinking on that???

  • nickrock23

    @daviskg8 said...

    I’ve been playing NHL H2H’s on Fanduel and last night I noticed that approximately 10 of my opponents had the exact same score against me. I went into the game entries and found they have the exact same lineup. I looked back at January 3rd and 4th results and found the same individuals with the same score and same exact lineups.

    I raise my concerns with Fanduel support and they tell me that Fanduel has a passionate fan base that tends to share information including the sharing of lineups. As a result, there was no suspicious activity. I was under the impression that this is against the TOS, but apparently no. Does Fanduel condone lineup sharing?

    Daviskg8, I am playing u tonight (MLB on DK) and another ID (mccarlmc) has your LU. Happens all the time, if I play 20 h2h, on avg 8 of them are identical LUs by different ID’s.
    Not sure if you are giving your LU’s away or getting yours from others, as it’s none of my biz, but I am curious what made you change your mind on this practice.
    Tonight I played only played 4 h2h, and 2 of those were the same LUs so it caught my attention. What are the odds? Maybe there just aren’t many players out there.
    peace

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