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  • kdjac0434

    First a little background on myself. I’ve been playing DFS daily for NBA, NFL and MLB for a little over 2 years and I have been profitable. I play primarily cash games because I have a better mind for the safety in players than the go big or go home approach. I was playing around $100 a night on both DK and FD, mostly in DU and 50/50s. I’ve dabbled in some tournaments but I realize that the likelihood of winning a large entry GPP is very low especially for someone that likes the chalk. About a month ago I decided to stop playing. Part of it was stress (I don’t think I am willing to have $200 in play a night), part of it was time around lock (I have 3 kids and 6-7 pm isn’t the time I want to be glued to my computer, I am willing to monitor news but not be consumed by the waiting) part of it was the increase in overlapping lineups (it seemed everyone was on the same players as me and one bad pick meant a losing night) and partly losing started feeling worse than winning felt good.

    Having said all of that I still would like to play on some level. So what I am looking for are some suggestions on how to make this fun again. I am willing to have somewhere between $1 and $50 in play a night. Has anyone found themselves in a similar situation? What did you do? What would you do?

  • lloydjv1

    I wish I could help, but that would mean I am doing something right. The past two weeks for me have been nothing but losses the likes I have not seen in DFS. I don’t know where I have run off the rails lately, but apparently I am missing something although I spend a great deal of my day reading the NBA daily forum and researching the net for the latest news. Sometimes I think it’s just best to go with your gut. With that said I am interested to hear what others have to say, and I know there are some guys that win nightly, albeit depending upon how many LU’s they run out there. Personally I rarely play more than 10 per evening and mostly very small GPP’s.

  • detroittigers44

    I am in a similar position with the kids… I have a two youngsters and I work until 5PM ET… By the time I get home and have supper, there really isn’t time to spend with them if I am messing with lineups and waiting on news… I have just started attacking the smaller slates that start later in the evening. Either the turbo slates or the Late Night. Its still fun to play, it cuts my research time way way down, and you can still play either cash or tournaments. The last few weeks I have just done the 10:30 games and won the Mini Shot twice… $3 tournament, $200 for first. Not getting rich, but still getting to play DFS and enjoy sweating the games even though I don’t always make it to the end of them…. With NBA, typically all the news is out prior to the late games tipping off, so you aren’t sitting there waiting for major news.

  • Rthuyns53

    Try playing the “Step” contests on DK if you haven’t already. They are a blast and offer a different type of game play. Although, you will find yourself playing against a lot of pros but you can only enter one LU so that increases your success. The nice thing about Step contests is if you win the next step or a ticket for the same level you are still playing off of your initial investment.

  • thehazyone

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    Put in a couple tournament lineups in the lower buy-in contests each night. Maybe 2-3 in the $3. If you lose, don’t sweat it, and who knows… maybe you’ll hit one day and be like “well that was fun”

    Losing sucks for everyone. We’ve all been there. DFS is what you make it. If you want it to be fun, it can be. If you start treating it like work, stressing about it, then it becomes precisely that.

  • BRORANNOSAURUS_FLEX

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    Cash games, in my opinion, aren’t really fun. Start playing $10 a night in tournaments, and give yourself a chance at a real, life changing, sweat.

    If you know the chalk plays, then making a contrarian tournament lineup shouldn’t be all that difficult.

  • wolfjb1

    I have the same problem as far as having a 9-to-5 or 6 job and kids, so I don’t play much NBA or NHL. I play NFL and MLB because there are very few changes between 5-7 p.m. eastern in MLB, so I set my lineups before I leave work and just skim the news for last minute changes like a guy twists his ankle in the clubhouse before the game.

    I suggest playing in the quarter arcade for fun. Or, play the small $0.25 GPPs essentially as cash games. What I mean is, just try to get your quarter back and if you hit it big – meaning you win like $20, you’re happy. If you have a steady income and just a few minutes a day, you should have no real risk in “flushing” $1-5 down the drain every day and hoping to cash occasionally.

  • crazypaul

    Have your wife take lots of photos of the kids. Photos last forever, DFS might not.

    In all seriousness, just skip NBA DFS if it’s interfering with your family life. I have 3 kids & luckily for me I get off at 5 & my wife who is a nurse gets off at 7. I have the kids do their homework while I do mine ;) Then at lock, I cook dinner and we all eat when my wife gets home & enjoy a few hours of family time before they go to bed. The NBA grind can get stressful & tiring. MLB & NFL are much more “family friendly”

  • dakimbell

    @BRORANNOSAURUS_FLEX said...

    Cash games, in my opinion, aren’t really fun. Start playing $10 a night in tournaments, and give yourself a chance at a real, life changing, sweat.

    If you know the chalk plays, then making a contrarian tournament lineup shouldn’t be all that difficult.

    I like that, Bro_Flex, that is really good advice. Plus, if he is just playing the $10 tourneys and knows who the chalk is he can get really agressive with some contrarian lineups that can have a shot at a big pay day. I would recommend something very similar as well.

  • kdjac0434

    Thanks for the replies. One thing I should mention is that the time for all of it isn’t a big deal. I work from home, my wife supports me playing and I CAN make last minute changes. The missing out on the kids did happen, but it was more by choice than necessity. I found myself sitting at the computer from 6-7 in case someone got scratched. No reason I can’t have the rotogrinders app alert me and then go make the change.

    The points about the tournaments and being contrarian are valid. My mind usually goes to the “I’m scared to fade Westbrook” instead of hoping he busts or thinking my play is better.

    I’ve also played the quarter arcade a few times using the lineup builder and that was fun. I didn’t have much success but maybe I’ll give it another go.

  • Heterodox

    @rachelkyle said...

    The points about the tournaments and being contrarian are valid. My mind usually goes to the “I’m scared to fade Westbrook” instead of hoping he busts or thinking my play is better.

    I’ve also played the quarter arcade a few times using the lineup builder and that was fun. I didn’t have much success but maybe I’ll give it another go.

    Why not just make your one cash/chalk lineup and single enter a $50 gpp? The lineup should be +EV, and you still get a shot at a big score, but without the giant field size of the lower buy-in contests. Or just pivot the one or two least reliable or highest leverage players, if you don’t want to play a “cash” lineup in a gpp.

    I don’t know what’s on offer for NBA, but I did this a few times for MLB last season, when the “handful of entries in a big gpp” approach wore thin for me. I didn’t make it my regular thing, though, because $50 per night is just a bit too much for me, so I started maxing the quarter arcade, which I find really enjoyable, but you could do just as well putting 1-3 lineups in higher buy-in, smaller field tournaments. I actually enjoy making 50 lineups by hand, and I find it far less stressful when I know I can balance my exposure and not live or die by one fluky outcome, but I also have the time to do it. I wouldn’t use a free optimizer, and I’d be leery of paid services, though I’m thinking of giving one a shot. But I have never found much use for the one here, or FantasyLabs’.

    Another thing that I’ve found really fun was joining a league with some players here. It’s kind of stupid, I mean I don’t know any of them, it’s not like they’re my actual friends, and it’s not like the money is big or anything, but condensing the field down to a small group of regular competitors has just been a lot of fun, and we can critique each other, see each other’s tendencies, track results, and maybe as we all get more comfortable some good-natured trash talk will start to take place.

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