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  • BobFTD

    FanThrowDown Rep

    Message from MGT regarding FanTD Tax Reporting:

    News Edit:

    We spoke to MGT’s CFO. This is his official stance as of now:

    We will be reporting NET winnings. Our auditors gave us incorrect guidance.

    A fuller explanation and an apology will be posted in the morning.

    Original Post:

    We are sorry that this issue has escalated, but we appreciate your feedback.

    MGT’s CFO has engaged the most senior tax partner of our public audit firm. The research has been ongoing to ensure the proper treatment of gross versus net.

    The preliminary findings have been unfair to our players, however, when it pertains to the IRS, fair does not matter. We assure you that we will do what is correct. We will have the final answer by tomorrow morning.

    In the meantime, we know that passion fuels our business and we respect this conversation.

    If you have any specific questions regarding this policy, we encourage you to contact the CFO of MGT, Robert Traversa.
    RTraversa@mgtci.com

  • easternmh

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    @mahuz said…

    Mongero is what he changed his name to after becoming a registered sex offender.

    EM2 already proved this all, what do you doubt?

    Doesn’t the one link show the guys mugshot? He knows, it is what it is I guess… They d never admit that a pedo/pimp owns/founded/works for the site or however he’s linked to FTD

  • travs424

    i don’t want to get involved, but the guys posting the links and trying to harass the guy should know the law before they get in real trouble. this disclaimer is listed om every site that allows you to access public records about sex offenders

    “Any person who uses the information contained herein to threaten, intimidate, or harass the registrant or their family, or who otherwise misuses this information, may be subject to criminal prosecution or civil liability.”

    you guys might want to hope that it is not him or that you have a good lawyer

  • mahuz

    It is him, and that’s the whole point. Everything said is both true and public record. I don’t feel that someone of that character should have access to my money, how is that harassing?

  • Putz

    @mahuz said…

    It is him, and that’s the whole point. Everything said is both true and public record. I don’t feel that someone of that character should have access to my money, how is that harassing?

    You’ve stated it, but then repeat yourself in multiple threads. It’s there for everyone to read multiple times, what else do you hope to accomplish?

  • Tippy

    @mahuz said…

    Mongero is what he changed his name to after becoming a registered sex offender.

    EM2 already proved this all, what do you doubt?

    Look man, I’m not saying you are right or wrong in your claims @mahuz. I’m not saying it is or isn’t the same guy. What I’m saying is that you did 15 minutes of internet sleuthing and you could ruin someone’s life and cause them real trouble if you are wrong. You have even posted pictures of the guy and still can’t 100% say that it’s him. You know, if you really want an answer, show some balls and pick up the phone and call the guy. The number is on the FTD site. At least be a man about it and talk to him directly instead of flaming a message board. Until you can ABSOLUTELY confirm that you are correct, then you are being really irresponsible here and your attack is probably better served being pursued somewhere other than the RG boards.

  • clarnzz

    I see this as a big oppurtunity, most of the money in the know visits this site and none of it will trust the site to play it anymore. What an oppurtunity for me!!11!! Big bucks all for me to take from the people even more newb to DFS than I am!

  • Loughy

    • 2015 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    Completely agree. But you’d really wish this thread was kept on topic. These sex offender allegations, regardless of validity, are taking things overboard.

  • clarnzz

    Yeah, all the amateur PI stuff is the equivilant of reading the front of a tabloid while standing in line at the store. To be serious I had never even logged into the site till I read this thread to furthur the view that any PR is good PR. I’ve fiddled around in FD, DS and DK a bit and FTD gives the impression of a back room poker game compared to playing at the MGM Grand, and try as I may I couldn’t find the link to the escort service anywhere. :(

  • sjjl2008

    Really happy to see this news, as someone who plays a lot on FTD.

    Everyone else should be careful of blasting someone on here, whether its true or not. Yes, I understand and see what the documents/links say, but just be careful.

  • rotokevin

    2014 RG Bowling Co-Champion, CPA & DFS Tax Guru

    • 2014 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @BobFTD said…

    Anyways, back on topic. Just to copy this here from the other thread:

    We spoke to MGT’s CFO. This is his official stance as of now:

    We will be reporting NET winnings. Our auditors gave us incorrect guidance.

    A fuller explanation and an apology will be posted in the morning.

    Cross posting to this thread. Morning’s almost over. Any statement to share?

  • whits23

    2010 FFFC Finalist, 2010 DFBC Finalist, 2011 FFFC Finalist, 2014 DSBC Finalist

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    I am not in favor of pedophiles nor can i spell it but i think one thing has nothing to do with the other. If it had nothing to do with taxes it probably has no reason to be posted and i am surprised RG is allowing it. Should a person want to take money out because of that then that is fine i probably would too but would not post it in a forum. If you want to blast site owners of crappy contest and shady issues and high rake etc etc etc those are all in play. However if something is allowed on a forum then i guess it is actually in play and if i don’t like it i can choose not to read or not

  • JDub07

    I respectfully disagree. I will no longer play at FanThrowDown because of that. I have 2 young kids and people like that disgust me. I know some people here are saying thing along the lines of “ How do you know it’s the same person etc…” By doing a little research of public records and other things it is very reasonable to come to the conclusion that is the same person.

    I understand people make mistakes but this type of crime of harming children is a whole different level.

    I would have more compassion of somebody who might have served time because of an armed robbery or something along those lines. Maybe his financial situation was bad and by resulting to robbery he was trying to provide for his family and now he has turned his life around. I could play on a site under those circumstances. But molesting kids is on a whole different level. You can’t redeem yourself after that kind of stuff.

  • deactivated17417

    If the owner/operator of a DFS site has a shady past isn’t that something the collective DFS community should know and be shared? As a group we are putting Millions of dollars into these sites. I think this is some of the information we should discuss when someone brings it to light and I think this is the exact place we should be discussing it.

    You are correct in that it probably should of had it’s own thread instead of being lumped in with the tax and ToS stuff but sometimes it takes one thing for people to start looking at other things.

    My 2c anyway.

  • mikethebeast

    JDub, he was convicted of child porn under 16 and arrested for pimping mature women from what I saw (no idea what came from the arrest). Child porn still contributes to the harming of children and is despicable, but we should stick to the facts.

    The whole child porn thing disgusts me, I like how FTD pretended they didn’t know this guy and then his face is right on the website with “Founder” under his name.

  • JDub07

    Yeah, I don’t really have as much an issue with the pimping stuff. Hey if that Adults making mutual decisions so be it. But the children shit irritates me.

    I think it is more of a moral thing for some people. Me personally am not going to play there. Others, while they may think that is disgusting, might not have it influence whether or not they play on the site.

    But on top of the fact that they think they are going to insult our intelligence and say that is not the same guy is utter bullshit and pisses me off.

    Don’t sit here and argue with the public records. Thinking they are going to make all of us out to be fools is a damn shame.

  • mikethebeast

    100% agree JDub I don’t have too much of a problem with the pimping arrest, maybe he was the nicest and greatest pimp and all his girls loved him (if this pimping stuff is true).

    The child stuff, I can’t even say what I think we should do to people like that.

  • whits23

    2010 FFFC Finalist, 2010 DFBC Finalist, 2011 FFFC Finalist, 2014 DSBC Finalist

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    There are guys arrested at age 18 for having sex with their 17yr old girl friend and are called similar so i was not aware of why he was charged or even if same guy.

    Jdub and me think alike my only point was if you dont even have fact or know its same guy dont throw it out and if it is FORUM WORTHY put it in a thread. Also i am not sure what RG allows as a forum thread? IF we find out site owner was cheating on his wife can we post that? if he went to rehab gambling or drugs do we post that? They may not be as bad as what has been mentioned but what can or should we post or not post? I would love for Cal or Cam to address this as its a very thin line as to what we can or should post. I bet if we start googeling arrest reports or or looking for dirt on players..owners etc we can find all kind of stuff. Should we post it? Hell i am all for a dirt thread as i know my past but not all of us boy scouts are attracted to the world of fantasy

  • jmbwngfn

    4x FSWA Writer Nominee, RG Admin

    • 2011 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    So much for that morning statement….

  • blaze1

    @whits23 said…

    There are guys arrested at age 18 for having sex with their 17yr old girl friend and are called similar so i was not aware of why he was charged or even if same guy.

    Jdub and me think alike my only point was if you dont even have fact or know its same guy dont throw it out and if it is FORUM WORTHY put it in a thread. Also i am not sure what RG allows as a forum thread? IF we find out site owner was cheating on his wife can we post that? if he went to rehab gambling or drugs do we post that? They may not be as bad as what has been mentioned but what can or should we post or not post? I would love for Cal or Cam to address this as its a very thin line as to what we can or should post. I bet if we start googeling arrest reports or or looking for dirt on players..owners etc we can find all kind of stuff. Should we post it? Hell i am all for a dirt thread as i know my past but not all of us boy scouts are attracted to the world of fantasy

    Google “fanthrowdown founder” and click images. Compare the first picture that comes up to the mugshot. Clear as day, it is what it is at this point. I don’t think RG would attempt to help cover-up these sort of charges. The guy is convicted, he’s already guilty. The kiddy-porn thing is sickening, who cares if he’s pimping crusty old women. And the fact that this guy Bob even tried to back him up even worse.

  • JDub07

    Hey if it’s public record it should be able to be posted on a public forum.

    Slanderous stuff like cheating on his wife while pretty shitty and immoral in my book is not illegal.

    But I still stand by if it is public information it should be able to be shared on a public forum. Nobody is threatening or harassing the guy. People are just throwing the information out there.

  • bobbyrogers46

    Whits is right, although in our 30’s now, I have a buddy, ma good friend of mine who just turned 18, hooked up with a girl he knew 16 during spring break and he took charges for it which nearly made him follow in this same catergory as an offender. This friend of mine was lucky in the fact a few years prior, his father a retired police officer took several bullets in a shoot out and was considered a town hero and was able to get through to the right resources and uave the girls mother drop the charges.

  • JDub07

    @bobbyrogers46 said…

    Whits is right, although in our 30’s now, I have a buddy, ma good friend of mine who just turned 18, hooked up with a girl he knew 16 during spring break and he took charges for it which nearly made him follow in this same catergory as an offender. This friend of mine was lucky in the fact a few years prior, his father a retired police officer took several bullets in a shoot out and was considered a town hero and was able to get through to the right resources and uave the girls mother drop the charges.

    That’s not the same thing. An 18 year old dating a 16 year old who may only be 1 grade below is not the same as having a hard drive full of underage girls.

    I know that their are 100s of cases in this country where people are labeled a sex offender for the rest of their life for having sex with their 17 year old girlfriend when they are 19. That is why you need to look into the charges and see exactly what the situation is.

    So who knows what the true story is with this guy but I think he should come out in the clear and give his side of story and people can come to their own conclusions.

  • blaze1

    @bobbyrogers46 said…

    Whits is right, although in our 30’s now, I have a buddy, ma good friend of mine who just turned 18, hooked up with a girl he knew 16 during spring break and he took charges for it which nearly made him follow in this same catergory as an offender. This friend of mine was lucky in the fact a few years prior, his father a retired police officer took several bullets in a shoot out and was considered a town hero and was able to get through to the right resources and uave the girls mother drop the charges.

    Unfortunately, this guy Jonathan has ALREADY been convicted. We’re not slapping charges on him based on accusations. This guy has been arrested, charged, and sentenced in the court of law.

    An 18 year old with a 16 year old is a different story and DON’T get it confused with, or even use it in the SAME THREAD as this.

    Kiddy-Porn. This is serious stuff. Two different things, this guy is GUILTY as charged, and in my opinion he deserves to be a lot more than “called out”!

  • Tippy

    @JDub07 said…

    That’s not the same thing. An 18 year old dating a 16 year old who may only be 1 grade below is not the same as having a hard drive full of underage girls.

    I know that their are 100s of cases in this country where people are labeled a sex offender for the rest of their life for having sex with their 17 year old girlfriend when they are 19. That is why you need to look into the charges and see exactly what the situation is.

    So who knows what the true story is with this guy but I think he should come out in the clear and give his side of story and people can come to their own conclusions.

    But that’s the real problem here @JDub, you guys have already made up your mind that this is the same guy based off of a few flimsy internet documents. You have already made up your mind that this guy did something horrible. You guys are judge, jury and executioner. What if you guys are wrong? Are you 100% sure or just ‘reasonably sure’? Is there a .01% chance you might be wrong? How much pain and stress could you be causing an innocent person? Look, many of us have kids here and we feel strongly about this kind of issue, I get what you are feeling and where you are coming from. You don’t want to play on the site because of it, fine, protest with a withdrawal and move on.

    The real problem here is that we don’t know the details. I’ve got a buddy who I went to school with from K-12, played football with the guy for 6 years, he was one of my best friends. He became a football coach and about 5 years ago his stepdaughter accused him of molestation. Dude was arrested, lost his job, lost his house, lost all his money for lawyers, lost all his friends. The thing finally goes to court after dragging him through the system for years only to have the stepdaughter admit she made the whole thing up because he wouldn’t buy her a new Yukon Denali. What if she would have continued with the lie at trial? My buddy would have gone to jail. Even though he’s been acquitted, he can’t get a job now around kids coaching football because of this. It’s all he’s ever wanted to do with his life, yet people still don’t trust him because they don’t know the details. We don’t know the details on this FTD guy either.

    Again, I’m not making a judgment on whether this is the same guy at FTD or what the details were even if it is him. I think what you guys are doing is irresponsibly speculating when you don’t have ALL the facts. Yes, it’s a hot button issue that many are passionate about, but sometimes you have to back off until you have the whole story, otherwise you risk that .01% chance that you might be causing real harm to an innocent person.

    Maybe this does just come with age.

  • blaze1

    @Tippy said…

    But that’s the real problem here @JDub, you guys have already made up your mind that this is the same guy based off of a few flimsy internet documents. You have already made up your mind that this guy did something horrible. You guys are judge, jury and executioner. What if you guys are wrong? Are you 100% sure or just ‘reasonably sure’? Is there a .01% chance you might be wrong? How much pain and stress could you be causing an innocent person? Look, many of us have kids here and we feel strongly about this kind of issue, I get what you are feeling and where you are coming from. You don’t want to play on the site because of it, fine, protest with a withdrawal and move on.

    The real problem here is that we don’t know the details. I’ve got a buddy who I went to school with from K-12, played football with the guy for 6 years, he was one of my best friends. He became a football coach and about 5 years ago his stepdaughter accused him of molestation. Dude was arrested, lost his job, lost his house, lost all his money for lawyers, lost all his friends. The thing finally goes to court after dragging him through the system for years only to have the stepdaughter admit she made the whole thing up because he wouldn’t buy her a new Yukon Denali. What if she would have continued with the lie at trial? My buddy would have gone to jail. Even though he’s been acquitted, he can’t get a job now around kids coaching football because of this. It’s all he’s ever wanted to do with his life, yet people still don’t trust him because they don’t know the details. We don’t know the details on this FTD guy either.

    Again, I’m not making a judgment on whether this is the same guy at FTD or what the details were even if it is him. I think what you guys are doing is irresponsibly speculating when you don’t have ALL the facts. Yes, it’s a hot button issue that many are passionate about, but sometimes you have to back off until you have the whole story, otherwise you risk that .01% chance that you might be causing real harm to an innocent person.

    Maybe this does just come with age.

    Tippy, please see my previous posts in this forum. If you google image “fanthrowdown founder” and compare that to the mug shot, it’s clear as day.

    This guy got caught with Kiddy-porn on a hard drive and is GUILTY as charged.

    Tippy, do the google image search and compare the two pictures.

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