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  • DFSx42

    I came here with popcorn in hand but was pretty shocked to find no discussion of it.

    Worst part about it is that DK has an obvious case of cheating and yet promotes the win.

    This is just horrible. This tweet here sums it perfectly.

    https://twitter.com/williambierman/status/1214015801721868288?s=19

    Vote with your wallets folks. Boycott Draft Kings. We can’t just continue to sit back, watch this and continue paying rake when there’s so many other options out there.

  • Supanice

    @Unico10 said...

    They won’t do anything until someone puts up a class action suit

    If I take down a GPP I’ll do it myself.

  • 49noobers

    @Supanice said...

    If I take down a GPP I’ll do it myself.

    Just think about genuine players who finished 2nd and lost $900k because of this BS. Had I finished 2nd in this particular contest, I would be taking DK to court over this.

  • Unico10

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    And before anyone comes out with some stupid defense about sore losers and some other idiocy…..

    1) I am very cynical and understand that when you mix money/people/computer/sports…. people will always try to find an edge.

    2) I have decent success and no, wouldn’t have won today if they hadn’t played

    The point to me is solely about integrity of the contests and long term viability
    They talk about going public?? Are you f’ing kidding me??

    No way they can survive the scrutiny involved with an IPO if they cannot show some integrity.
    This isn’t complicated
    It only gets complicated for the ones that want to find ways to excuse it.

  • Steverino01

    DK already gave her a rose. They are as good as married now.

    https://twitter.com/DraftKings/status/1214003682393706496

  • Supanice

    @49noobers said...

    Just think about genuine players who finished 2nd and lost $900k because of this BS. Had I finished 2nd in this particular contest, I would be taking DK to court over this.

    The cheating brothers have won millions, the reason I made a report to DK about them is in a single entry contest they were the only 2 people in the entire contest to play Fitzpatrick and one of them knocked me down $500

    The official DK response is that they do not consider family members being family when considering collusion and it is not illegal to share “projections”.

    If they were sharing “projections” and not colluding, they would have the same lineups, not 500 over multiple contests with no duplicates.

    Nevermind they are running 2v2 and 3v3 game stacks with the same players but never duplicates. It is a joke.

    It is the same on twitter when you see 10 lineup trains in double ups of the same poker friends every single week. DK just doesn’t care.

  • Steverino01

    DK had lots of overlay in many different contests due to their insanely top heavy payouts. Many people are getting tired of the 25-40% to first place and 20% or less are mini cashing only 1.5X. If DK isn’t careful only the pros and/or cheaters will be left to play on their site.

  • Unico10

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    The most amusing thing…. really…. is when people complains about collusion in cash games that people have the same exact lineup the response is “same optimizer, same projections”
    When people plays 300 (or 600 for what we know) unique lineups with no overlap “they share optimizers, talk strategy, but enter separately… nothing to see

    🤣🤣🤣😂😂

  • lfn1992

    @Steverino01 said...

    DK had lots of overlay in many different contests due to their insanely top heavy payouts. Many people are getting tired of the 25-40% to first place and 20% or less are mini cashing only 1.5X. If DK isn’t careful only the pros and/or cheaters will be left to play on their site.

    This. Top-heavy prize structures encourage this type of behavior, especially in 2- or 4- game football slates with a minimum of realistic QBs to choose from.

  • SenderGreen

    Btw this Jade from Bachelor has posed nude before. Just fyi. Hope it’s helpful for fantasy.

  • 33BeRad

    Draftkings don’t care and won’t do anything about any of it. Not the first people to do it as had been said and won’t be the last. It’s an uphill climb to win any of these gpp’s, I’m sure the 20 max entries have their unborn children and pets in their.

  • BIF

    @Steverino01 said...

    DK already gave her a rose. They are as good as married now.

    https://twitter.com/DraftKings/status/1214003682393706496

    Like I said earlier, they’ll try to use this to their advantage and get free media attention from it

    At least the 3rd blatant collusion Milly winner I’ve seen in the last 2 years

  • depalma13

    Looks like I will be signing my wife up this week. Oh yeah, and my cat too.

  • bhdevault

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    Mod Note

    I moved all the discussion from the NFL thread into this thread after it was created.

  • bigez952

    Another case of obvious collusion but there is nothing to see here as nothing will be done and we should just move on. I think they should burn the community guidelines and just let everything go so everyone can do as they please instead of selectively enforcing these rules.

  • Papas1175

    I agree. There needs to be a lawsuit. We’re getting scammed out of our money and dk promotes it in our faces

  • jayzee666

    @SenderGreen said...

    Btw this Jade from Bachelor has posed nude before. Just fyi. Hope it’s helpful for fantasy.

    The best and most informative post in this thread and any thread like this!
    Thanks!

  • ValuableTrader

  • Danielv22

    @gravycakes said...

    Pretty obvious collusion

    ttolbert05 plays: 40 Wentz, 59 Brees, 49 Russell Wilson (0 Watson, 0 Allen, 0 Tannehill)
    jaderoper plays: 48 Watson, 47 Josh Allen, 48 Tannehill ( 4 Wentz, 0 Brees, 0 Wilson)

    There’s got to be a third person who stacked Cousins and Brady… Don’t have ResultsDB available so can’t poke around. Anyone got it? It’d prob be a max 150 person.

  • jayzee666

    @Papas1175 said...

    I agree. There needs to be a lawsuit. We’re getting scammed out of our money and dk promotes it in our faces

    No lawsuits. It ends in a settlement, 95% of the settlement go to the lawyers, and everyone just keeps playing anyway!
    Just stop playing these MME and top heavy contests!

  • caleb21scott

    We should just get her in front of a committee sit her down and see if she even knows how to run an optimizer, what she uses for projections and how she came up with her unique lineups. Then when she answers what is an optimizer boom shes busted!

  • caleb21scott

    I mean “he’s” busted

  • bigez952

    If I had that kind of bankroll I bet my wife would be a max entry player as well even though she has never watched a football game in her life. I think DK has made it clear that collusion / team play via optimizers (shared projection sources) is perfectly legal. Until they publicly show evidence of one of these ever being shut down I will just continue to stay away from the rigged lottery contests with 30-40% to 1st place as you can’t beat the team play that goes on every week.

  • WhiteyJones8

    I have a related question that I’ve always wondered. If someone does get caught cheating what happens to the winnings? Let’s say that I sign my wife up for an account. I’m blatant about it and even use my credit card and enter the lineups on my cell phone. I enter a beginner only contest with the “new” account and take down $3000. DK catches me red handed and bans my account. What do they do with the money I won? Shouldn’t it go to whoever would have won? Has this ever happened? I’ve never heard a single person say they were later contacted by DK because they won some additional money. So the only logical answers are 1.) DK just keeps the money 2.) No one has ever been caught?

  • Jeddy3

    @tristanwolf said...

    Chris Randone is losing all credibility in the industry tonight. He is trying so hard to pretend nothing happened.

    Dude didn’t have any to begin with. Ever listen to one of his pods? Doesn’t know any names and barely knows what team they play for.

  • Lee123

    @Supanice said...

    They don’t do shit about chipotleaddict and papagates why would they do something about this?

    Theyll do something if people take a stand and not play on their site. But everyone will continue to play so it will be swept under the rug.

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