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  • zachj

    Anybody else notice that there is only 4 players available from Notre Dame on DK? Looks like just Grant, Vasturia, Connaughton, and Auguste are in the player pool

  • Gsulaw16

    I appreciate DK being willing to listen to feedback from players on the issues. I respect everyone there, and believe they are trying to produce an enjoyable product while maximizing profit (as any company should. That said, my feedback on the issues:

    -We don’t add or remove players from a posted player pool.

    I am 100% on board with this rule/policy. The only real issue for me is the slate where players were added and removed. I understand that it was a “bug” rather than human error, but the purpose of a rule/policy is uniform applicability. This can be resolved by clearly stating any exceptions to the rule/policy ahead of time rather than for waiting for the circumstance to occur and applying the exception few if any were aware of. Especially when the exception would be the result of internal mechanisms (i.e., bugs, etc.) that the player can’t (and shouldn’t) have knowledge of.

    Removing Injured/Bench-warming players-

    This is a little more concerning, particularly in light of the explanation. To be sure, injury news is harder to find in CBB than in NBA. That said, with sufficient study it is not all that difficult. Moreover, finding this news, like any research is a part of the skill/edge that goes into being good in a given sport. Attempts to appeal to the more novice player by “leveling the playing field” is certainly good for overall growth, but takes away a skill element from those who are dedicated to playing that sport all season, and it did not help that the “micromanagement” ramped up at the times “new money” (NBA all-star break, tourney) came into the sport. Bottom line, monitoring injury is no harder, and no less a skill, in CBB than say, projecting a player against a given team given DvP, and shouldn’t be treated as such.

    Blocks, Steals

    Count me as a no vote for adding these, FWIW. I enjoy DK because it provides a different experience from other sites in this respect. However, if you do choose to change, I would simply suggest not prioritizing it over the above-discussed issues, and the changes that Stewburt and others have suggested.

  • Markness

    DraftKings Team

    Gsulaw16, I agree with you that we should ideally have the extreme/rare scenarios covered in our policies and we will aim to do so going forward.

    The incident you are referring to involved players being mistakenly added to the player pool due to a technical glitch. Our action to then remove those players was a correction to get back in line with our policy. Fortunately, we have code that prevents any existing salary from being overwritten, so the players that were mistakenly added were pretty much all out for the season (ie: Kobe Bryant). They also stuck out like a sore thumb as they were not rounded to the nearest $100. These added players were not on any rosters when we subsequently removed them from the player pool. It was one of those extremely rare glitches that looked sloppy, but I would argue it had zero effect on actual gameplay.

    On the topic of sites helping users avoid picking players that are reported to be out days in advance, I think that’s good for everyone. Injury news and indicators are used across all DFS sites, so the concept is clearly not specific to DraftKings. The game requires so much skill and strategy outside of simply checking another site for injuries a day in advance (I’m not talking about monitoring news throughout the day). Preventing new players from a terrible experience that was easily avoidable is good for everyone.

  • jfendler

    @Markness said...

    On the topic of sites helping users avoid picking players that are reported to be out days in advance, I think that’s good for everyone. Injury news and indicators are used across all DFS sites, so the concept is clearly not specific to DraftKings. The game requires so much skill and strategy outside of simply checking another site for injuries a day in advance (I’m not talking about monitoring news throughout the day). Preventing new players from a terrible experience that was easily avoidable is good for everyone

    If this belief is the prevailing one at DraftKings, it is only a matter of time before your player base shrinks. Some overly ambitious state legislators will happily pounce on the opportunity to shoehorn DFS under the “gambling/game of chance” umbrella, and additional states will ban daily fantasy sports.

    As far as preventing “terrible experiences,” well, this is life. Sometimes you have great experiences. Sometimes you have terrible experiences. We, as adults, are responsible for the consequences of our actions.

    I’m sure DraftKings has a very competent in-house legal team. That said, it’s only a matter of time before those in positions of power take notice of DFS’ exploding popularity.

    It is in everyone’s best interest to continue making this a true game of skill.

  • Gsulaw16

    While I would potentially disagree on some points relating to the second issue, for example, removing injured players is very different than having indicators/news, my overall thought is fair enough and am happy agree to disagree, where I disagree. I really appreciate the thoughtful response and knowing someone has thought through the issues, even if they come to a different conclusion than me. I’m game for just about any rule/policy DK chooses to adopt, as long as its known in advance and applied consistently. I have no doubt that’s what ya’ll are striving for, and I appreciate it.

  • Stewburtx8

    • 2012 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @Gsulaw16 said...

    While I would potentially disagree on some points relating to the second issue, for example, removing injured players is very different than having indicators/news, my overall thought is fair enough and am happy agree to disagree, where I disagree. I really appreciate the thoughtful response and knowing someone has thought through the issues, even if they come to a different conclusion than me. I’m game for just about any rule/policy DK chooses to adopt, as long as its known in advance and applied consistently. I have no doubt that’s what ya’ll are striving for, and I appreciate it.

    I’ve always been against the idea of sites providing injury news on their site (and definitely don’t think they should ever remove players completely). To me the site should just be the facilitator, and not providing information. No DFS player who has the potential to be a long-time player is going to quit because they played an injured guy one night. If anything, they will learn from it and not make the same mistake again.

    Unfortunately it seems like the sites providing this information is here to stay. One thing I think they need to be careful of though is that I have seen instances where they have incorrect indicators next to a player’s name. For instance, a player has an “O” next to his name but is expected to play. To me, this can cause them many more problems/complaints than not providing any information would.

  • theseige

    • 2015 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    • x2

      2016 DraftKings FBBWC Finalist

    @Markness said...

    Last thing, we will most likely add Blocks and Steals for next year now that they are covered live by our stats provider.

    Gross… I love that you guys don’t do that, so much scorer discrepancy between teams and leagues… hope you reconsider this

  • bowens1984

    • 2014 StarStreet MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    • RG Season Champion: NBA

    How is there not some type of quality control in place where a draft kings employee reviews the salaries and player pool before games are posted? It would have taken anyone who follows college basketball less than a minute to notice Jackson was missing.

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