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  • bbbomb

    • Blogger of the Month

    I’m open and willing to run this blog back if anyone has new or different questions regarding fights, specific fighters or strategy.

    DK just put out the match ups and salaries for UFC on Fox this Saturday.

    1. Gustafsson 11.4k vs. Johnson 8.8k

    2. Mousasi 11.6k vs. Hendo 8.4k

    3. Davis 11.2k vs. Bader 8.7k

    4. Corassani 10.2k vs. Sicilia 9.8k

    5. Tumenov 10.4k vs. Musoke 9.6k

    6. Robertson 10.3k vs. Aliev 9.7k

    7. Ogle 10.4k vs. Amirkhani 9.6k

    8. Krylov 10.6k vs. Nedkov 9.4k

    9. Taisumov 12k vs. Christodoulou 8k

    10. Bektic 11.7k vs. Redmond 8.3k

    Here is the link to my last blog post, UFC H2H Lineup and Post-Fight Analysis

    https://rotogrinders.com/blog-posts/ufc-fight-night-rewind-and-analysis-522633#reply-522633

    THANKS
    -Brett

  • sethayates

    Cool idea. Here is my question. In MMA most fights are three rounds except for championship fights. Those fights are five rounds. In DFS we usually try to target opportunity. Can you explain which situations I would want to target the main event (take both fighters?) to get two extra rounds or situations where I could fade that fight and still come out ok?

  • agendaman

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    cerrone has lost to henderson twice already saw a cerrone quote it’s just a fight appreciate your take on this fight plus 3 guys i like here-larkin-parke and case who has won 9 str. tx now

  • bbbomb

    • Blogger of the Month

    Will get these in thanks guys

  • scottmsteiner

    Is there any rationale in taking two fighters facing each other? I know you lose out in the win bonus, however if you project a fight to be close with enough scoring from both fighters I could see it as a good move if the salary fits and you don’t like any of the other underdogs.

  • lilscrapnike

    @scottmsteiner said...

    Is there any rationale in taking two fighters facing each other? I know you lose out in the win bonus, however if you project a fight to be close with enough scoring from both fighters I could see it as a good move if the salary fits and you don’t like any of the other underdogs.

    I think that there could be some merit to using a strategy like this to craft a cash game lineup, however for GPP’s it really hinders your ability to achieve that top score needed to win. I think it is definitely a strategy I will be looking at for my cash game lineup construction for the upcoming UFCFN 59, especially given how close some of the fights are predicted to be (numerous fights predicted to go over 2.5 rounds, plus not many huge favorites that stand out). Not to mention the pricing is super tight and there are only 3 fighters priced below $9k (not counting Louis Taylor since he’s injured & has been pulled).

  • miller_time

    @lilscrapnike said...

    I think that there could be some merit to using a strategy like this to craft a cash game lineup, however for GPP’s it really hinders your ability to achieve that top score needed to win. I think it is definitely a strategy I will be looking at for my cash game lineup construction for the upcoming UFCFN 59, especially given how close some of the fights are predicted to be (numerous fights predicted to go over 2.5 rounds, plus not many huge favorites that stand out). Not to mention the pricing is super tight and there are only 3 fighters priced below $9k (not counting Louis Taylor since he’s injured & has been pulled).

    Is hall still fighting?

  • Jasen777

    @miller_time said...

    Is hall still fighting?

    Yes, he got a new opponent, Ron Stallings.

  • scottmsteiner

    @Jasen777 said...

    Yes, he got a new opponent, Ron Stallings.

    So, how difficult is it for these fighters thrown into competition on short notice?

  • mrclutch

    I would definitely be interested in exploring the pros and cons of taking two fighters in the same fight. I consider myself pretty savvy when it comes to MMA as I’ve been watching religiously for about 8 years now. I know most of the fighters and what to expect, but I’ve yet to have time to break down all the possibilities with DFS.

    Even when you know a sport well, DFS makes it a completely different ball game. Just because I feel good about someone winning doesn’t mean anything when it comes to DFS scoring. Heck, I won 4 of 5 fights in the last event (w/underdog winners) and only lost a longshot punt. However I didn’t come near cashing as my winning fighters just didn’t get many points, even with some finished.

    I look forward to learning more about the scoring and figuring out a strategy that works best!

  • Bstacks

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    @scottmsteiner said...

    So, how difficult is it for these fighters thrown into competition on short notice?

    Very difficult. Ron Stallings actually owns a gym 20 mins from mine so it was funny seeing him added to the card. Short notice on a fight is brutal unless it’s a guy who was already in training camp or fought recently enough to still be in shape.

  • bbbomb

    • Blogger of the Month

    I’ll discuss this a bit in the blog thanks!

  • scottmsteiner

    @Bstacks said...

    Very difficult. Ron Stallings actually owns a gym 20 mins from mine so it was funny seeing him added to the card. Short notice on a fight is brutal unless it’s a guy who was already in training camp or fought recently enough to still be in shape.

    Obviously we can’t use Stallings on DraftKings, but does Hall become a must use fighter in this situation? What kind of fighter is Stallings?

  • scottmsteiner

    @bbbomb said...

    I’ll discuss this a bit in the blog thanks!

    Thank you. I look forward to your blog and the other contributors here.

  • Bstacks

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    I don’t think Hall is a must play, but he certainly looks like a good play. Hall can be a bit of a headcase so it’s tough to know how being on his 3rd opponent will effect him. Stallings should be a game opponent, but Hall completely outclasses him striking.

  • soupdup

    With the way I had my DK lineup, and Taylor now being out, the only other Fighter I have available with my Payroll is Siver. Should I put him against McGregor or just totally restructure my picks?

  • scottmsteiner

    @soupdup said...

    With the way I had my DK lineup, and Taylor now being out, the only other Fighter I have available with my Payroll is Siver. Should I put him against McGregor or just totally restructure my picks?

    As I see it, that is a sound strategy…leave Siver in.

  • lilscrapnike

    I think Stallings makes an interesting GPP play in this scenario (Only available on Kountermove & not DK). He is coming off a five round title fight loss in November for a smaller organization, and I think most people who see this will automatically drift towards putting Hall in their lineups. Not to mention Uriah Hall has the name recognition and KO power which we’ve all seen before. I think all these factors add up to extreme low ownership for Stallings. In my opinion, just because Hall is getting an opponent on short notice, doesn’t make him a must start. Stylistically this fight has the makings of a quick fight. Stallings has a tendency to sit down on his punches, and although explosive himself, he really leaves himself open to getting countered. The one thing I’m slightly nervous about is Hall’s propensity to allow below average fighters to hang around with him and take him to decisions (Thiago Santos in his last fight and John Howard three fights ago). Overall I definitely see myself having some exposure to Hall on DK in GPP’s as a pivot off of Connor, but can’t really get comfortable with him in my cash games.

  • DontThrowPick6

    @Jasen777 said...

    Yes, he got a new opponent, Ron Stallings.

    I’m assuming Ron Stallings won’t be available in DKs lineups, correct?

  • Bstacks

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    Stallings made it 5 rds in his last fight, but he got dominated the whole way.

  • bbbomb

    • Blogger of the Month

    Here is my mailbag blog, thanks to everyone who participated. I will have a full analysis blog up later.

    https://rotogrinders.com/blog-posts/mma-mailbag-mcgregor-vs-siver-edition-512327#reply-512327

  • dougy2fresh

    Here is the last event totals for each fighter. 5/9 fights went over 100 on their total. Reviewing my H2Hs and 50/50 (10 matches 8-H2Hs and 2 – 50/50s) the average score that won was 209.5 and the average number of wins was 2.4. At first I thought it wouldn’t be smart to use two fighters in the same fight but looking at the very small sample size it appears it may work. I’d be curious to see what others H2Hs and 50/50s were averaging.

    Jon Jones (77) def. Daniel Cormier (31) TOTAL – 108
    unanimous decision (49-46, 49-46, 49-46) – Round 5, 5:00

    Donald Cerrone (49.5) def. Myles Jury (9.5) TOTAL – 59
    unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27) – Round 3, 5:00

    Brad Tavares (52) def. Nate Marquardt (15) TOTAL – 67
    unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27) – Round 3, 5:00

    Kyoji Horiguchi (49) def. Louis Gaudinot (11.5) TOTAL – 60.5
    unanimous decision (29-28, 30-27, 30-27) – Round 3, 5:00

    Hector Lombard (57.5) def. Josh Burkman (21) TOTAL – 78.5
    unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28) – Round 3, 5:00

    PRELIMINARY CARD
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    Paul Felder (89.5) def. Danny Castillo (10.5) TOTAL – 100
    knockout (punches) – Round 3, 2:09

    Cody Garbrandt (82.5) def. Marcus Brimage (21.5) TOTAL – 104
    TKO (strikes) – Round 3, 4:50

    Shawn Jordan (109) def. Jared Cannonier (5) TOTAL – 114
    knockout (punches) – Round 1, 2:57

    Evan Dunham (103) def. Rodrigo Damm (23.5) TOTAL – 126.5
    unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27) – Round 3, 5:00

  • bbbomb

    • Blogger of the Month

    I’m open and willing to run this blog back if anyone has new or different questions regarding fights, specific fighters or strategy.

    DK just put out the match ups and salaries for UFC on Fox this Saturday.

    1. Gustafsson 11.4k vs. Johnson 8.8k
    2. Mousasi 11.6k vs. Hendo 8.4k
    3. Davis 11.2k vs. Bader 8.7k
    4. Corassani 10.2k vs. Sicilia 9.8k
    5. Tumenov 10.4k vs. Musoke 9.6k
    6. Robertson 10.3k vs. Aliev 9.7k
    7. Ogle 10.4k vs. Amirkhani 9.6k
    8. Krylov 10.6k vs. Nedkov 9.4k
    9. Taisumov 12k vs. Christodoulou 8k
    10. Bektic 11.7k vs. Redmond 8.3k

    Here is the link to my last blog post, UFC H2H Lineup and Post-Fight Analysis
    https://rotogrinders.com/blog-posts/ufc-fight-night-rewind-and-analysis-522633#reply-522633

  • miller_time

    Who are your favorite underdogs on this card that have a chance to get a surprise finish?

  • johnnyj580

    @scottmsteiner said...

    Obviously we can’t use Stallings on DraftKings, but does Hall become a must use fighter in this situation? What kind of fighter is Stallings?

    I don’t know that its an exact science along the line that you’re thinking.

    Yes, it absolutely is detrimental to a fighter like Stallings here coming off of an extremely short training camp, but the bigger factor(s) are:
    1. Level of Competition faced:
    a) Has this fighter fought at this level before, or is this a big step up in competition? How has he faired against competition (if any) around this level?

    2. Fight History:
    a) Has the fighter been subbed in past fights? If he/she’s (you read that right) has been prone to subs in the past, is the current opponent along the lines of submission speciliast?
    b) Even more important than submission history is KO history. Has the fighter been KO’d in past fights? Why is this more important? A fighter’s “chin” deteriorates. I know no one wants to mention the word concussion, but with more and more research coming out, its obvious that in some of these knockouts fighters sustain, to some degree they are in fact concussed, even if the MMA news sites don’t want to focus on this. Once a concussion occurs the chances of a repeat occurrence are the same or better. Once a guy’s been KO’d, the chances of it occuring again are greater.

    But along the lines of “short camp” thinking, one thing that can alter a fight is the fighter’s weigh-in. Did he/she have to return to the scale multiple times? Meaning he/she didn’t make weight the 1st time and the commission allowed the fighter to come back in 30/60/120 mins to try and make weight again. Cutting weight, when the metrics are on point, is draining enough. When a fighter struggles after several hours to make weight, often times he/she is gassed in the fight the next day.

  • agendaman

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    winner of the gustafsson-johnson fight gets a match with jon jones i can;t bet vs. a swede fighting in stockholm sweden esp. if fight goes to a decision really like krylov via 1st. rd. k.o or tko. plus 2 dogs amirkhani and aliev gl.

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