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  • NIN1002

    Hello everyone who is reading this! First off, if this is in the wrong forum, then I apologize. My hope hear is to talk about my time playing at Yahoo and why I like the Yahoo DFS experience.

    A little bit about me….I have been playing Yahoo DFS pretty much since it rolled out. Before Yahoo DFS, I never played DFS before, so Yahoo was my introduction to DFS. Before I started the Yahoo DFS, I was playing the Pro Leagues at Yahoo pretty much since they were rolled out as well. For those that do not know, Yahoo has season long cash leagues ranging from $20 to $500 in entry fees. Depending on the sport, these are either 10 or 12 man leagues and the top 3 win money. The only other site I checked out for real money season long leagues is CBS, and I believe they keep more of your $$$ and have a different pay out structure. The Yahoo season long leagues (whether free or Pro) really haven’t changed at all over the past 15 years or so, so the interface is tried and true and it works.

    The other thing that you should know about me is I have NEVER played on DK or FD. I cannot make any comparisons to those sites as I have no knowledge or experience with them. I never felt the need to check them out as I’ve been very satisfied with my Yahoo DFS’ing. This article is not meant to break down the pros and cons of Yahoo vs. the other options out there, but merely my observations over the years and evolution of Yahoo’s DFS product. I consider myself a pretty active player, and aim to get in as many contests as possible on the days I have enough time to assemble lineups. I am not a high stakes player, and pretty much draw the line around the $50 mark for what I will enter into, but Yahoo’s games range anywhere from $1 to $5000+ depending on your bankroll and risk tolerance. Really no shortage of options to wet your whistle.

    I started my DFS life not really by design. Yahoo has implanted their “Yahoo Wallet” which is where your winnings from season long leagues end up. That money is on the site, and from my standpoint, I went free rolling with my winnings and that is where my bankroll began. Depositing can be done through your Yahoo Wallet, but I think (not 100% sure on this) you can deposit right off a credit card as well. Either way, your DFS and season long winnings will end up in your Yahoo Wallet and are clearly displayed in the top right corner when you are in the daily fantasy section of Yahoo’s fantasy sports. Cashing out is as simple as making a transfer to your Paypal account, and from there you know what to do. It’s one day to Paypal and one day to your bank account. There is no drivers license, identity verification, etc. needed (not sure what FD or DK’s process is, but I remember from my online poker days trying to cash out was extremely difficult at some of them that it was laughable if you could ever get your money off the site). The entire process is very transparent and requires little more than a Paypal account. Easy beans.

    Playing Yahoo DFS seems to be a simplified form of some of the other sites. I say this in the sense that all their games (football, basketball, baseball, hockey, and soccer) you have a bankroll of $200 to spend on your team. All the players in the player pool are locked into one position, so there is no flexibility with guys who play multiple positions having multiple designations. As we are in basketball season, your lineup is pretty straight forward: PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, UTIL. Eight players. Football you play 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, and 1 K. Baseball is one player at the eight positions on the diamond and 2 pitchers (no FLEX). There is nothing tricky, deceptive, or complicated about it.

    Working with a budget of $200 is also a simplified version of the other sites, but with smaller numbers. Pretty much eliminating a whole lot of 0’s at the end of a players price in my opinion. I have spent a great deal of time comparing Yahoo pricing to the other sites by just clicking on players and comparing their salary history on all the sites to see if Yahoo is moving the pricing around accordingly. The “bottom of the barrel” players will cost you $10, and it is kind of rare I don’t end up with at least one min priced player in my lineups every day. Truthfully, Yahoo has some quirky pricing which creates unique opportunities that differentiate it from the other sites. It’s not uncommon for me to be mulling over which min salary play I want to use on any given day (as it’s impossible to jam them all in there). The guys that work hard every day to publish the Yahoo experts content from rotogrinders are top notch guys and write just as good articles as anyone FD or DK has writing their daily blurbs (disclaimer: I have a Yahoo premium membership on RG, so I truthfully don’t know how good or bad the other guys are as that content is hidden from me). Yahoo also has some of their own DFS content that is published daily which is a nice secondary reference to use. From my standpoint, I appreciate the simplified pricing and it just makes everything faster and easier in my opinion when putting together lineups.

    Yahoo is smaller than DK or FD…of that I am sure. Once again, this opens up it’s own set of possibilities. The same 50/50’s are out there and range from 10 players to 100 players with the usual range of buy ins. There are a variety of single entry tournaments every day ranging from $1 to $250 if that is your thing. And of course there are the big MTT’s. You should know that the MTT’s are obviously not nearly the scope of what I am sure FD and DK has. The most popular one that is universal in every game is the $1 with a max of 10 entries. This one usually has anywhere between 5000 and 8000 players in it. So, if you are looking for the life changing experience that the big sites promise you (or used to before they modified their marketing approach), Yahoo is not where it’s at. If you are looking for smaller pools with fewer people to sift through, then you have a much better chance at Yahoo to actually win one of these things as law of averages says you would be more likely to win a tourney with 5000 people instead of a tourney with 50000 people. I have taken down a handful of these MTT’s, and I’m more than happy clearing a few thousand dollars. Not all of us are going to be the 1%‘ers that earn their living playing DFS (and I hope most people are realistic with themselves), and winning a few hundred bucks makes me as happy as one can be. So, realizing I’m not looking to become the next millionaire or looking for exotic trips to foreign countries and hanging out with a bunch of bros is just fine by me (I hate traveling anyway). Yahoo has it all in one nice, ultra convenient, easy package for a guy like me who probably loves his season long Pro leagues more than any DFS action. If you are someone who is looking to play some Pro season long leagues, then Yahoo has everything you want in a one stop shop.

    Yahoo has seemed to really amp up it’s marketing and in game interface quite a bit the past 12 months. Imagine my surprise coming to RG almost every day for a couple years to get my info to all of the sudden see a banner at RG announcing a partnership with guaranteed $10,000 overlay for a free tourney for RG members! I never thought I would see that day, and then here it was. I won’t go through some of the internal changes I have noticed at Yahoo, but all I will say is the changes they have made to get yourself into more tourneys faster, easier, and logically find what you are looking for has VASTLY IMPROVED!!! This was something I really hated about Yahoo, but this is no longer an issue so no point in talking about what was in the past and fixed. I have also noticed the MTT’s seem to be growing almost every day with the amount of guaranteed money in them and this is a very promising and exciting thing to see for a Yahoo DFS guy.

    The last thing I want to mention is when I saw this RG/Yahoo partnership for a free tourney they came together for is I went into the forums to see who was talking about this. In the forums, I found that Yahoo has a representative that I guess would be the official Yahoo spokesperson in RG. What Yahoo does not have (or at least publically) is some sort of deposit bonus or reload bonus which always kind of irked me since I got an initial matching deposit bonus when I first started up (who doesn’t like catching some free money?), but then Yahoo discontinued these bonuses and instead offered reward points that can be used to buy into contests. Anyway, reading the forums, DanielHaight (that’s his RG screen name) was offering to match anyone and anything’s deposits or pretty much whatever you wanted. Just zip him a line, and ta da!! You will see your bonus money in place. Like almost every poker site I ever played on, this deposit is earned over a period of time and unlocked based on your entries and how much you spend so it should not be confused with just instantly having a pile of money shoved at you. But, what REALLY impressed me was I sent him a message with a variety of suggestions and things I liked/disliked about the Yahoo DFS experience and he loaded up my account with some of that free money for me to unlock (along with sending me a very long, thought out, detailed message of what Yahoo’s direction is and some of his thoughts on the product). Long story short, I was blown away by him reaching back out to me, responding to every single one of my thoughts and suggestions, and then….get this…actually making the changes to the Yahoo product. I was truly blown away by the response, level of service, and his obvious committed interest to seeing what can Yahoo do to be better. I certainly can’t speak for Dan or Yahoo, but I would guess he would be absolutely willing to work with everyone and listen to what you have to say if you took the time to reach out to him or get some sort of matching bonus for pumping in some money on to the site. I never even asked for a reload bonus…he just thanked me for all my years of playing and being a member that I suppose he felt he could give something back to me. I was genuinely touched by that, his level of response, and actually getting down to business and making some glaring upgrades to the product that were long overdue in my opinion.

    I suppose that’s it. If you read it this far, then thank you. This is not meant to be an attack on FD, DK, or any person, site, or anything like that. Hopefully this was read as just an understanding of why this one guy likes Yahoo DFS and chooses to stay there and no where else. I understand most everyone who reads this probably has deep loyalties to their site of choice and there you go. But, I really hope someone reads this and at least considers checking out what Yahoo is doing out there not only for DFS, but fantasy sports in general with a tremendous amount of daily content (that is 100% free to access). Perhaps Dan will see this post and he can talk about Yahoo and whatever promotions or matching bonuses or whatever Yahoo can do for you. They seem to be VERY open to anything and everything you have to say and will back it up with some $$$.

    Thanks guys and good luck out there!!

  • 615SCRATCHMAN

    I am glad for this awesome review. I have been needing a long overdue change and I just made my first Yahoo deposit but didn’t see where to put the promo? Did I mess up ? I got 1000 YSRP was that the bonus? Either way I am impressed ! Thanks to the OP and you DanielHaight.

  • fluffynuggets

    @615SCRATCHMAN said...

    I am glad for this awesome review. I have been needing a long overdue change and I just made my first Yahoo deposit but didn’t see where to put the promo? Did I mess up ? I got 1000 YSRP was that the bonus? Either way I am impressed ! Thanks to the OP and you DanielHaight.

    1000 YSRP = $5. Can be used to join any paid contest.

  • JustDFSin

    2 days in a row with stat problems?? I hope this does not draw out till 4 o’clock like it did yesterday

  • kaetorade

    • 2013 DraftStreet DSBBC Finalist

    @JustDFSin said...

    2 days in a row with stat problems?? I hope this does not draw out till 4 o’clock like it did yesterday

    This isn’t a Yahoo issue. If you check espn/nba.com/etc, they all have the same issue with the Kings/Nets game.

  • panters

    And thanks to Daniel for fixing the ownership percentages.

  • erickim

    It looks like the kings nets gm has been updated on all the sites, but yahoo doesn’t have the same stat lines with nba.com and ESPN. Yahoo closed the contests and paid out winnings with a box score that doesn’t align with the other sites.

  • Mrrutexas

    I noticed this too. Did Russell have 15 or 12 points?

  • DanielHaight

    • Yahoo Representative

    @erickim said...

    It looks like the kings nets gm has been updated on all the sites, but yahoo doesn’t have the same stat lines with nba.com and ESPN. Yahoo closed the contests and paid out winnings with a box score that doesn’t align with the other sites.

    Yes, we know we paid out on bad stats. We’ll be spending the better portion of today fixing this and making everyone whole. Fun day for us for sure.

    In the meantime, sure to be plenty more overlay on our $50K contest tonight: https://sports.yahoo.com/dailyfantasy/contest/2388433?pid=rotogrinders&aid=rotogrinders.

  • erickim

    Ok thanks Daniel. I appreciate the assistance. Also, I was wondering if I was still able to get the matching deposit bonus. I’ve made a few deposits over the last few months and wasn’t aware you were offering matching deposit bonuses. My profile name is SeasonedVet. Thanks!

  • Mrrutexas

    Thanks Daniel. Sorry about the busy work day but I appreciate it.

  • DanielHaight

    • Yahoo Representative

    @erickim said...

    Ok thanks Daniel. I appreciate the assistance. Also, I was wondering if I was still able to get the matching deposit bonus. I’ve made a few deposits over the last few months and wasn’t aware you were offering matching deposit bonuses. My profile name is SeasonedVet. Thanks!

    Done!

  • Jesoral

    Stats are still wrong for yesterday’s Brooklyn game

  • Supersharpie

    Daniel, why don’t you guys operate in Delaware? FD and DK have been back for close to a year now.

    I would probably move most of my action to Yahoo if given the chance.

  • Supersharpie

    I’ll take the lack of response to mean “we have no plans to resume operation in Delaware at this time.” Sometimes living in a small state sucks.

  • DanielHaight

    • Yahoo Representative

    @Supersharpie said...

    I’ll take the lack of response to mean “we have no plans to resume operation in Delaware at this time.” Sometimes living in a small state sucks.

    Yeah sorry, right now Delaware’s regulatory framework (read: costs) do not make sense for the size of our current operation. Hopefully we can grow a bit to justify the cost there!

    Dan

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