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  • gje627

    FYI: In the event anyone is prepping for the upcoming NASCAR season and was not already in the know … for 2021 DK made a few fantasy scoring changes for the upcoming season. The first changes fastest lap scoring from 0.50 to 0.45 for each fastest lap a driver records and the second establishes a new scoring schedule for driver finish position (see table below). Fantasy scoring for place differential and laps led remains the same as prior years.

    Not really sure why DK made these changes (would love to hear from DK on this BTW …) but obviously since NASCAR scoring is very close among and between lineups, even these seemingly minor changes will be meaningful.

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    NASCAR DK 2021 FINISH POSITION FANTASY POINTS RULE CHANGE COMPARISON

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    FINISH POSITION 2021 2015 – 2020 DIFFERENCE
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    1 45 46 1
    2 42 42 0
    3 41 41 0
    4 40 40 0
    5 39 39 0
    6 38 38 0
    7 37 37 0
    8 36 36 0
    9 35 35 0
    10 34 34 0
    11 32 33 1
    12 31 32 1
    13 30 31 1
    14 29 30 1
    15 28 29 1
    16 27 28 1
    17 26 27 1
    18 25 26 1
    19 24 25 1
    20 23 24 1
    21 21 23 2
    22 20 22 2
    23 19 21 2
    24 18 20 2
    25 17 19 2
    26 16 18 2
    27 15 17 2
    28 14 16 2
    29 13 15 2
    30 12 14 2
    31 10 13 3
    32 9 12 3
    33 8 11 3
    34 7 10 3
    35 6 9 3
    36 5 8 3
    37 4 7 3
    38 3 6 3
    39 2 5 3
    40 1 4 3

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  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    Probably my biggest beef is the disqualifications. While it doesn’t happen often, the current practice of “disqualifications dont matter for DK results” is simply unacceptable.

    DQs would make for a terrible user experience because after every race you’d have to wait an hour or two to see if you really won or lost and it’s also biased to the guys in the top few spots who get checked post race. Stat corrections happenin other sports but they are usually much more minor changes and are the result of scorekeeper doing his job wrong not the player doing something wrong.

    As for stat corrections. They do occur after the race in NASCAR. Those correct actual scoring mistakes that happened during the race. The time between end of qualifying and the waving of the checkered flag.

    Before we dive in, we do want to say that we appreciate everyone’s opinions – they are all valid, even those that differ with our position. For sharing your thoughts, we applaud each and every one of you!

    In our DFS contests Finishing Position is defined as the driver’s standing order at the end of the race. Disqualifications related to same-day post-race inspection will not change a driver’s Finishing Position, Laps Led, or Fastest Laps stats.

    This experience is consistent with our scoring across all sports where, on occasion, official scorers may issue a stat-correction after games have ended and the official scoring validation process has completed. Corrections in NASCAR are rare, yet corrections can occur days after a game is played and finished.

    That is why we made the decision so any changes to official scoring that occur after contests have been finalized will not impact those finalized contests.

    In that same vein, why are drivers sent to the rear to start not scored from there? Their original starting position is invalid at that point.

    A driver’s starting position is based on qualifying position. If a driver’s qualifying position is disallowed, the starting position will be a new spot at the back of the race. If a driver’s starting position changes between qualifying and the start of the race for any other reason (e.g. going to a backup car) the original qualifying position will be used to calculate place differential.

    https://www.draftkings.com/help/rules/10

    I agree with the stage points here. This is an immediate improvement that would produce differing strategies and more variance in lineups.

    Stage points, I agree, will probably be added eventually

    Who knows what the future could hold? Only time will tell!

    The difference is a stat correction is because of an error by the scorekeeper.

    This quote is precisely why Live scoring updates are strictly for the enjoyment of the sweat – but they are not official.

    From our Rules and Scoring page:

    > “DraftKings’ official scoring validation process begins once all games within the contest are final. This process ensures that DraftKings scoring matches official stat providers when contest results are finalized and paid out.”

    https://www.draftkings.com/help/rules/overview

    We are not playing official NASCAR race results. We are playing end of qualifying to waving of checkered flag.

    This is a simple way of describing how our NAS contests work, nicely done! Yet we still urge all players to read the contest rules, it’s the best way to learn exactly how the contests are judged and scored.

    - DraftKings Community Team

  • livetorace17

    Thank you for your response!! I may not necessarily agree with everything, but I definitely appreciate the thought behind it (they are all valid positions that make sense, and I respect that) and the time taken to respond. One of many reasons I enjoy DK!

    Thank you!!

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