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  • ifthethunder

    Saturday: Pocono Organics 325

    Sunday: Pocono 350

    Teams are supposed to use the same car for both races. Or else start at the back of the pack on Sunday.
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  • monarch

    @Pandamonious said...

    10th one down.

    https://tobychristie.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/LD12014_POST_POSTBOOK.pdf

    Those are excellent. Thanks!

  • superjon

    Built around Elliot and Kennseth

  • Pandamonious

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    @monarch said...

    Those are excellent. Thanks!

    No problem. Just remember I was nice this one time when we argue again when NBA comes back.

  • goboltsgo

    So I didn’t watch the Xfinity race but see timmy hill came in 8th. Wad this due to multiple accidents or did he look good and maybe warrants a shot in the next race for a punt pivot?

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    No way I’m playing Houff

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    @theIrrigator said...

    No way I’m playing Houff

    Even on DK?

    On FD you shouldn’t need him.

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    @goboltsgo said...

    So I didn’t watch the Xfinity race but see timmy hill came in 8th. Wad this due to multiple accidents or did he look good and maybe warrants a shot in the next race for a punt pivot?

    Didn’t watch either, but almost all my line ups were ruined by issues, so I assume he moved up mostly from other teams wrecks, issues. Trucks and Xfinity seemed to have increased wrecks/issues, so who knows what happens here.

  • yisman

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    All Cup cars through tech, no issues. Going to rear:
    1st-Preece (engine)
    7th-Byron (engine)
    25th-Elliott (transmission)
    27th-Bowman (backup)
    30th-Reddick (backup)
    36th-Logano (backup)
    38th-Jones (backup)
    39th-McLeod (transmission)
    40th-Houff (backup)

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    @Pandamonious said...

    Even on DK?

    On FD you shouldn’t need him.

    Even on DK. Dont see the upside. What position you think he finishes?

  • goboltsgo

    Hmm think I’m done tinkering if the one lineup I forced Hoff into hits it will be the most duplicated lineup I’m sure. Feels like I’m setting fire to a lu more than hedging seeing it’s the only one.

  • monarch

    @theIrrigator said...

    Even on DK. Dont see the upside. What position you think he finishes?

    I think you can fit five drivers that can get around 70 DK points each and what you are left with is Houff on down salary wise.

  • sanders_tj

    Houff isn’t winning anyone huge money so if you play GPP’s, he shouldn’t even be in your driver pool. Cash games are a different story.

  • depalma13

    @theIrrigator said...

    Even on DK. Dont see the upside. What position you think he finishes?

    Houff has a 4 point floor with a realistic 20 point ceiling.

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    @theIrrigator said...

    Even on DK. Dont see the upside. What position you think he finishes?

    Probably mid 30’s, but if he gets to 29-31, he’s probably good enough if all these big dogs get up front.

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    @sanders_tj said...

    Houff isn’t winning anyone huge money so if you play GPP’s, he shouldn’t even be in your driver pool. Cash games are a different story.

    Houff 1st place finish now lol

  • sanders_tj

    @theIrrigator said...

    Houff 1st place finish now lol

    Considering he’s cracked the top 30 three times this year, good luck with that. 😂

  • depalma13

    @sanders_tj said...

    Houff isn’t winning anyone huge money so if you play GPP’s, he shouldn’t even be in your driver pool. Cash games are a different story.

    I remember the first time I won one of the Big NASCAR GPPs. I used Jeffrey Earnhardt.

    It was funny when the guys on Sirius XM were talking about me using a driver who started in 40th place.

  • gje627

    @theIrrigator said...

    Even on DK. Dont see the upside. What position you think he finishes?

    I agree. I’m not super-excited about Houff either.

    $5,100 seems a little high for maybe 10 to 15 fantasy points (at most unless weirdness ensues).

    History at Pocono since 2005 says you need the top 3 to maybe 4 high scoring drivers and then “good” value after that. However, this isn’t history as in a big dominator or two … instead it’s all place differential and finishing position today.

    While we have a lot of PD plays today, we don’t have a lot dominators who can really load-up on dominator points. I’d happily not play an $11K driver in favor of a mid $9K driver scoring two fewer finishing position points and two fewer place differential points.

  • Hamlin-36%
    Bowyer-9%
    Bowman-30%
    Reddick-40%
    Jones-67%
    Bubba-7%

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    If Houff finishes 30th, and Logano and Jones finish in the 7-10 range, and KB and Hamlin lead laps and finish 1-2, and someone like Bowman or Almirola finishes 8th, depending on what else happens, there’s a decent chance Houff will be in the winning line up on DK.

  • goboltsgo

    Wow Houff only 5% owned in the $3 dollar 20 entry on dk. Faded bc I really hoped hed take out like 20+ % of field. Even tinkered my lu with him to none bc everytime I looked at it I didnt like it.

  • monarch

    Kyle Busch is only 24 percent? Don’t they know he is going to win with +16 PD

  • yisman

    I used my final front row ticket (I had 4 and used 3 yesterday, got 0 dollars back)

    I punted with Houff (6.2%) to fit two guys with good PD upside

    I thought Hoff would be 10+% given all the expensive guys starting 15th or worse

  • kotbo

    Makes you wonder a late start now a delay?

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    @Pandamonious said...

    If Houff finishes 30th, and Logano and Jones finish in the 7-10 range, and KB and Hamlin lead laps and finish 1-2, and someone like Bowman or Almirola finishes 8th, depending on what else happens, there’s a decent chance Houff will be in the winning line up on DK.

    A lot of ifs

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