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  • kbsktbll88

    @Dfspacman said...

    I heard if you’re a Canadian resident you don’t have to pay the tax

    I’m not sure about Canada’s tax laws. For U.S. residents though you are absolutely required to report any winnings no matter how small. Whether you get caught or audited if you don’t is a different story.

  • captainwacky

    @Kmasonbx said...

    It’s the thought that he has the talent so they can “fix” him. As long as the goal of basketball is to score more points than your opponent guys that have the talent to score 30 on any given night will be given every opportunity to show they can be a positive on the court.

    I mean, I get it, to a degree— there are guys who are obviously a cut above at scoring. But you can score more than your opponent by having them score less, and you can also produce points by being efficient. Getting 30 on 24 shots isn’t impressive or beneficial, and while I don’t want to make this all about Russell specifically, there’s just a crazy amount of market devoted to volume scorers who are net negatives.

    Luckily, I think this trend is going to change, but it just confuses me that it is still going strong. The fact that the Rockets were dumb enough to sign Melo for even two weeks or whatever is hilarious.

  • biardo6

    @deepfat said...

    Agreed although the personal insult wasn’t necessary to him/her wasn’t necessary.

    Thanks deepfat. I figured somebody would say what he said. I do watch basketball and have for years. As I stated … some people would laugh at an opinion that I had. Now to dreusch… I play against a lot of the guys on here in DFS every day. And I do well, despite the fact that they are very smart and have high basketball iqs. I won’t reciprocate your insult… but I’ll tell you that I was a soccer coach for 14 years. That team went the the state finals 8 times and won 4 of them. I understand movement off of the ball. Getting up and down, anticipation, knowing where the ball will be, exploiting the weak side, vision, first touch, peripherals, intangibles, and all of the other things that the so called sports iq guys understand. So in my OPINION… I don’t believe Lonzo Ball will be in the league in 5 years. Most people will disagree with that. But they’ve disagreed with a lot of things involving sports that I predicted. And I was happy to have on extra edge… and their money… by the way… do you want to do a 100$ H2H tonight? We can do screenshots and post our scores. I’ll send the invite.

  • hobbes2d

    @captainwacky said...

    I mean, I get it, to a degree— there are guys who are obviously a cut above at scoring. But you can score more than your opponent by having them score less, and you can also produce points by being efficient. Getting 30 on 24 shots isn’t impressive or beneficial, and while I don’t want to make this all about Russell specifically, there’s just a crazy amount of market devoted to volume scorers who are net negatives.

    Luckily, I think this trend is going to change, but it just confuses me that it is still going strong. The fact that the Rockets were dumb enough to sign Melo for even two weeks or whatever is hilarious.

    Just shows how desperate Houston was lol.

  • captainwacky

    Ironically, the ‘fix them part’ is so ass-backwards if you look at many of the most cost-effective stars in the league. Kawhi was ‘just a hustle/defensive guy’. Jimmy Butler was a nobody scrapper. Paul George was an unpolished guy who could ‘impact the game with his length’. Those three are absolute terrors, and while they all have nice offensive games, you won’t see a ton of mixtape work from any of them… they just dominate the game in so many facets.

  • damionismyname

    @kbsktbll88 said...

    No this is incorrect. By law you are supposed to pay it whether it’s significant or not to you. Significant is relative to the person, not to the law. $500 may not be significant so you, but could be to someone else. Just like $10,000 may not be significant to a shark, that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have to pay taxes on it.

    Companies by law are not required to send you a form unless you win $600 or more. Just like if you go to a casino and win $100 in a slot machine. The casino is not going to send you a form. But you are still supposed to report it.

    your not getting the IRS knocking at your door for taxes on $599 so this is irrelevant. If draftkings isn’t sending the form then don’t pay it unless you like filling out forms that will cause you more trouble than its worth.

  • ghost3490

    @biardo6 said...

    As ridiculous as this may sound… I’ve gone on a bit of a heater by playing guys that are level headed and that don’t hit the night life as hard. Don’t get me wrong… they almost all party and do their thing… but there’s somewhat of a narrative for those hard working guys that put their profession first. And I do think that the general soreness/illness is oftentimes the result of hangovers.

    Do you have a naughty and nice list?

  • TomBradyBlueMamba

    @biardo6 said...

    Lonzo is never a favorite for me. Ever. His season high in real points is 23. And that is below pathetic. He has become a guy that can contribute in all categories over the course of the year, but I truly believe that he will be out of the league in 5 years. And a lot of people will laugh at that. I know he is a rookie, but if we are being honest… he isn’t good. And his 6k on FD with Rondo and James out should be a pretty good indicator that I’m not the only one that thinks that about him. He can’t shoot. Period. Last year… D’aaron Fox was frustrating as hell. Because you could tell that he was good. He was just very inconsistent. Lonzo is like that, except for the fact that he can’t run an offense. He’s hype. And I’ll gladly fade him tonight and take my chances… even at 6k.

    You know NOTHING about basketball. Stop gambling, you are done.

  • RandysCrow

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    @Luctyl99 said...

    Really like smart as long as harden is playing. Will likely get more minutes than usual because they need his defense against him.

    If I remember correctly, isn’t Smart getting into Harden’s head a thing? Or it used to be.

  • Njsum1

    @hobbes2d said...

    Essentially for that yes is part of what I’m saying. In general though I don’t ever look at pure correlative stats. I guess because when I look at things like usage and FPPM (which is what I care about the most) those things are kind of baked into that data anyway.

    Side note…Nice call on Jeff Green being a terrible play. That’s where I was leaning, and didn’t play him yesterday although he was projected highly. 4’s are always in foul trouble against Detroit.

    While I agree, that fppm and usage are the most important, I disagree that correlations are baked into that data. That data is from an entire season, where certain guys have good games and others don’t. So the average is what it is, yet one guy can often eat while the other struggles, and vice versa, and that’s not going to give you a high finish in a GPP, especially with 2 higher priced players.

    For example Blake and Andre defintely appear to have negative correlation. Yet over the course of the season they’ll both have good fppm. Yet for DFS purposes playing them both in GPP’s on the regular will likely be a losing strategy. I know you liked them both yesterday, which was due to matchup, yet even in a prime matchup they just did OK. They were also both priced over 9k. Which is why I think that situational and price analysis is more important then correlation analysis. If they were both 7k correlation analysis would be irrelevant, which is why I believe it to be irrelevant for the lakers tonight.

  • kbsktbll88

    @damionismyname said...

    your not getting the IRS knocking at your door for taxes on $599 so this is irrelevant. If draftkings isn’t sending the form then don’t pay it unless you like filling out forms that will cause you more trouble than its worth.

    Whether or not you get audited is a different story. You probably won’t. That wasn’t the point though. Whoever told you that you only have to report on $600+ was wrong. This is from TurboTax’s website, and you can find the same information on the IRS’s website.

    “Even if you do not win as much as the amounts above, you are still legally obligated to report. You also need to report any awards or prize money you won during the year in question. Yes, even if you only win $10, you still technically have to report it (even if the casino didn’t). Gambling income plus your job income (and any other income) equals your total income.”

    And as someone who had to deal with the IRS (for a different issue) I can tell you it’s not worth the headache of having to deal with them to dodge $100 in taxes no matter how slim the odds of getting audited are.

  • wmgilpin

    Javale unlikely to play per FL

  • tmarohl

    Everyone is going to be loading up on that Lakers/Kings game. Someone who loads up on GS/Portland or Milwaukee/NY will probably win everything tonight.

  • JustDFSin

    @CJtheGrump said...

    I’d kind of like to know if Lance Stephenson is going to get minutes with Lebron out. Seems like RG doesn’t expect him to. I don’t know about the other sites.

    Starting 5 of Lonzo, Hart, Ingram, Kuzma, and McGee? Who’s the 6th man? Gotta be Lance right?

    Pope is the 6th man. Kuzma,Ingram already play big minutes. Somebody has to take lebron’s minutes. I’d expect Lance to at least get 20 minutes

  • deepfat

    @tmarohl said...

    Everyone is going to be loading up on that Lakers/Kings game. Someone who loads up on GS/Portland or Milwaukee/NY will probably win everything tonight.

    I’m starting to lean this way too. I’ll have a little exposure but zigging and zagging and all that.

  • biardo6

    Hart locked in

  • Panther85

    Capela should destroy Boston tonight, and be low owned

  • Just_Chof

    @wmgilpin said...

    Javale unlikely to play per FL

    whose FL if you do not mind me asking

  • RandysCrow

    • Ranked #39

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    @tmarohl said...

    Everyone is going to be loading up on that Lakers/Kings game. Someone who loads up on GS/Portland or Milwaukee/NY will probably win everything tonight.

    That is my plan. As I said on page 1, it sounds like I am going completely opposite of where everyone here is going….

    Makes me wonder if I am being too cute. Especially since I only play one line.

  • Njsum1

    @tmarohl said...

    Everyone is going to be loading up on that Lakers/Kings game. Someone who loads up on GS/Portland or Milwaukee/NY will probably win everything tonight.

    Im not loading up on on the Lakers Kings game, I’m loading up on Lakers, then spreading my exposure over the rest of the games/teams. I also have interest in PHI-Utah. Surprisingly big total on that game. And of course, the LNH 😎

  • hobbes2d

    @Njsum1 said...

    Side note…Nice call on Jeff Green being a terrible play. That’s where I was leaning, and didn’t play him yesterday although he was projected highly. 4’s are always in foul trouble against Detroit.

    While I agree, that fppm and usage are the most important, I disagree that correlations are baked into that data. That data is from an entire season, where certain guys have good games and others don’t. So the average is what it is, yet one guy can often eat while the other struggles, and vice versa, and that’s not going to give you a high finish in a GPP, especially with 2 higher priced players.

    For example Blake and Andre defintely appear to have negative correlation. Yet over the course of the season they’ll both have good fppm. Yet for DFS purposes playing them both in GPP’s on the regular will likely be a losing strategy. I know you liked them both yesterday, which was due to matchup, yet even in a prime matchup they just did OK. They were also both priced over 9k. Which is why I think that situational and price analysis is more important then correlation analysis. If they were both 7k correlation analysis would be irrelevant, which is why I believe it to be irrelevant for the lakers tonight.

    Yeah I see what you’re saying. Part of looking at that kind of data is knowing/figuring out how teams will use their players and run their rotations too. Keeping a close eye on those trends will help you whenever injuries occur.

  • gaelicgirl

    @RipCityRings said...

    I think people are going to overlook POR/GS tonight assuming it blows out.

    Lillard is only 8.3K on DK which is the cheapest I’ve seen him all season, and he always shows up vs the Warriors. He’s probably my favorite stud GPP play tonight.

    Run that back with Durant who should also eat vs one of the worst SF defenses in the league. While the blowout potential is real, I think with the Warriors’ recent struggles this one stays close enough for both to hit value (Dray and Klay also in play, what a day).

    Agree with most of this, locking in Dame, Nurkic, Steph and KD for the late slate on Yahoo. If the comments here are any kind of barometer, people will be heavy on the LAL/SAC game, might get ridiculously low ownership on better players.

    RipCity vs DubNation FTW!

  • Kmasonbx

    @captainwacky said...

    Ironically, the ‘fix them part’ is so ass-backwards if you look at many of the most cost-effective stars in the league. Kawhi was ‘just a hustle/defensive guy’. Jimmy Butler was a nobody scrapper. Paul George was an unpolished guy who could ‘impact the game with his length’. Those three are absolute terrors, and while they all have nice offensive games, you won’t see a ton of mixtape work from any of them… they just dominate the game in so many facets.

    Completely agree. The fix them part should be turning defensive minded guys that play hard into capable scorers. I also agree that things are changing. Front offices are getting smarter and I think within the next 5 years we’ll be seeing less and less of these 1 dimensional volume scorers.

  • Luctyl99

    Just using 5x as a base (which obviously isn’t going to win you a GPP) but Kuzma, Ingram, and Lonzo only need 93.5 DK points to reach that mark. I have a hard time believing that the trio wont get at least 100. Starting all of my lineups with those 3, fading Sacramento, and going from there.

  • wmgilpin

    FL = fantasylabs

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