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  • gaelicgirl

    @Yeoman said...

    Gasol only took three shots in the paint and one of them was in transition. I don’t see how Bogut would have helped.

    It would have been nice to have a 7’ 260 lb. guy protecting the rim and grabbing rebounds, though. Looney actually did a decent job of defending Kawhi when he was on him, maybe they could try putting him on Gasol next game.

  • OttawaCityMadman

    @yisman said...

    So according to sources, Kerr was deliberately lying to and misleading the public. That’s the real information in the story. Why am I not surprised?

    And the league just lets it happen. the injury stuff and letting players bully/terrorise their organisations to get traded make me sick. Im terrible at NBA but I still enjoy playing on DK. But that crap has to stop, or I wont be able to support any of it.

  • samuri8

    I guess I don’t see a problem with trying to put a wrinkle in your opponent’s preparation. It’s gamesmanship. It happens in NFL too, Pete Carroll does it often. As I’ve said before, I don’t think it’s good long term for sports to revolve around gambling instead of the other way around. Now, if a team is too flagrant about it over a long period COUGH (Philly) I might slap their hand if I were the commissioner but maybe not even then. Just my two cents.

  • Stewburtx8

    • 2012 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @Njsum1 said...

    You think Siakam is going to shoot 14-17 ever again? Van Vleet, Gasol, and Danny Green all shot better than usual as well.

    Although I said I like Toronto last week, and still do….as long as Iggy isn’t hurt, I see reason for optimism for your dubs.

    I think you are focusing on the wrong side of the ball. It was Golden State’s offense that had major problems in the half court against the Toronto defense. Gasol looked like the guy who won defensive player of the year several years ago. Lowry and FVV are the best guard defenders that Golden State has faced. Leonard, Siakam and Green are all very good to elite wing defenders.

    It’s crazy that with Steph and Klay that you could say Golden State lacks shooters. But they do. They even got a combined 5 for 8 from three from Jerekbo, McKinnie and Cook. But Toronto just dared Iggy, Green and pretty much anyone but Steph and Klay to shoot. Golden State can make some adjustments but they really NEED Durant in this series to force Toronto’s defense to actually make choices on who to guard and/or help off of. To me Durant’s return is the reason for optimism, but they could use him sooner rather than later.

  • telestraightshooter

    Raptors -2 game #2

    Raptors +140 series, down from +250

  • telestraightshooter

    Hindsight is 50/50 but damn! was Pascal a contrarian play or what?!?

    3% Cptn ownership
    31% can’t hit the broad side of the barn Danny Green
    11% solid effort, weak DFS production Shaun Livingston

  • tmarohl

    With as good as Toronto is, I can’t fathom GS not being able to win at least one of four in Toronto. If they do that, they will be champions. Also sounds like they are going to rush Durant back for game three if they go down 2-0. If that is the case, I would be cautious expecting much out of him because I still believe he messed up his achilles and he won’t be the same Durant. Probably just a spot up jump shooter that most likely will not be able to defend anyone.

  • 866

    They cannot stop SIAKAM. G S is in trouble. Nobody to match-up with SIA.

  • yisman

    @JDJohnDickinson
    37s38 seconds ago

    Andre Iguana’s MRI came back clean. Concern was over calf that was injured in Portland series. He should be good to go for Sunday night in Game 2

  • tmarohl

    @866 said...

    They cannot stop SIAKAM. G S is in trouble. Nobody to match-up with SIA.

    Siakim will stop Siakim. He is not going 14 for 17 again. The degree of difficulty on some of those shots was incredible. Probably fade him next game.

  • telestraightshooter

    @yisman said...

    @JDJohnDickinson
    37s38 seconds ago

    Andre Iguana’s MRI came back clean. Concern was over calf that was injured in Portland series. He should be good to go for Sunday night in Game 2

    I smell some smokeScreen here.

    After the gimppin started, Iggy was grabbin his left hammy;
    he was not favoring a calf muscle set.

    So the chess game inside the chess game that Kerr righteously plays…. suggests 33% bullshit.

    Be on lookout for “Iggy suffered a setback”

  • Njsum1

    @Stewburtx8 said...

    I think you are focusing on the wrong side of the ball. It was Golden State’s offense that had major problems in the half court against the Toronto defense. Gasol looked like the guy who won defensive player of the year several years ago. Lowry and FVV are the best guard defenders that Golden State has faced. Leonard, Siakam and Green are all very good to elite wing defenders.

    It’s crazy that with Steph and Klay that you could say Golden State lacks shooters. But they do. They even got a combined 5 for 8 from three from Jerekbo, McKinnie and Cook. But Toronto just dared Iggy, Green and pretty much anyone but Steph and Klay to shoot. Golden State can make some adjustments but they really NEED Durant in this series to force Toronto’s defense to actually make choices on who to guard and/or help off of. To me Durant’s return is the reason for optimism, but they could use him sooner rather than later.

    You must have missed last thread when I posted how Toronto wasn’t getting enough respect. Citing how GS hasn’t faced a defense like Toronto and they have home court, and other reasons. I posted how the GS -250 line was solely because the oddsmakers needed people to bet on Toronto, not a true and accurate line.

    I write that because your post made it sound like I thought hands down GS was the better team. When the opposite was true.

    Now to this point..1) of course GS would be better off with Durant, any team would.
    However, I know what I saw yesterday, and Toronto seemed a bit lucky. Golden State played very good defense as well, yet Toronto was hitting tough shots and shooting above their norm.

    I’m still picking Toronto to win, my point was that I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Iggy is in fact healthy, for GS to win game 2, as Toronto May have won, yet they didn’t really look dominant.

  • Stewburtx8

    • 2012 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @Njsum1 said...

    However, I know what I saw yesterday, and Toronto seemed a bit lucky. Golden State played very good defense as well, yet Toronto was hitting tough shots and shooting above their norm.

    I was only speaking to this point, not that you felt Golden State was a much better team. I did not feel Toronto was lucky at all. They were the better team, especially in the half court. It never really felt like they did not have control of the game. If anything I thought Golden State was a little lucky at times to get open shots on several offensive rebounds and also to get a 5 for 8 shooting performance from 3 from Jerekbo, McKinnie and Cook. Thompson and Curry were 7 for 15 from 3.

    The only big outlier performance on the Toronto side was Siakam. He did get a lot of easy looks but also made a few threes and jump shots that he may not make in future games. But Leonard and Lowry, their 1st and 3rd best scorers finished 7 for 23 from the field. They can certainly improve.

    Obviously Golden State will make adjustments, but outside Durant returning (which is obviously the big IF), I did not see much positives on the Golden State side last night. They looked like a team with only one guy who can create his own shot AND shots for others (Curry). Of course they could come out and win Game 2 as they are the champs and still have 3 all-NBA caliber players.

  • Njsum1

    @Stewburtx8 said...

    The only big outlier performance on the Toronto side was Siakam. He did get a lot of easy looks but also made a few threes and jump shots that he may not make in future games. But Leonard and Lowry, their 1st and 3rd best scorers finished 7 for 23 from the field. They can certainly improve.

    Kawhi looked a bit hurt to me, more then he did versus Mil. I’d expect less defensive pressure on Kawhi next game. More on the other guys. And I don’t expect the other guys to play as well when more attention is on them. And I’m not sure Kawhi will do well enough (because he looked hurt, otherwise I’d think differently) to make up for the lack of contributions from the ancillary pieces.

    Although Lowry didn’t score, he played an exceptional game, imo. Leonard didn’t seem his normal dominant self on either end. If he’s not limping…different story. I’m saying that I don’t have confidence that the other players will do it consistently throughout the series. Maybe they’ll do it next game at home, maybe not 🤷‍♂️

  • gaelicgirl

    @866 said...

    They cannot stop SIAKAM. G S is in trouble. Nobody to match-up with SIA.

    Draymond has other ideas.
    “I gotta take him out of this series, and that’s on me.” – Draymond on Siakam’s big game

  • telestraightshooter

    @Njsum1 said...

    Although Lowry didn’t score, he played an exceptional game, imo

    Per Lowry on press day, he can’t feel his thumb, probably will need “procedure” in off season. Wrecked it in last series, hasnt topped 40 dK pts since

  • telestraightshooter

    @gaelicgirl said...

    Draymond has other ideas.
    “I gotta take him out of this series, and that’s on me.” – Draymond on Siakam’s big game

    I love it

    Which Warrior has an emotional makeup most close the the old Ron Artest (Malice-in-the-palace)?

  • Stewburtx8

    • 2012 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @Njsum1 said...

    Kawhi looked a bit hurt to me, more then he did versus Mil. I’d expect less defensive pressure on Kawhi next game. More on the other guys. And I don’t expect the other guys to play as well when more attention is on them. And I’m not sure Kawhi will do well enough (because he looked hurt, otherwise I’d think differently) to make up for the lack of contributions from the ancillary pieces.

    Although Lowry didn’t score, he played an exceptional game, imo. Leonard didn’t seem his normal dominant self on either end. If he’s not limping…different story. I’m saying that I don’t have confidence that the other players will do it consistently throughout the series. Maybe they’ll do it next game at home, maybe not 🤷‍♂️

    All fair points. As my initial post stated, I am more focused on the other side of the ball. Toronto’s defense was very good and I am not sure what Golden State can do differently in Game 2 (and until they get Durant back). Obviously Curry or Thompson could go nuts even against contested shots, but the defensive game plan and execution from Toronto in Game 1 will make it very tough if they execute the same way in Game 2 (and beyond). Green and/or Iggy would have to start making outside shots.

  • tmarohl

    @Stewburtx8 said...

    All fair points. As my initial post stated, I am more focused on the other side of the ball. Toronto’s defense was very good and I am not sure what Golden State can do differently in Game 2 (and until they get Durant back). Obviously Curry or Thompson could go nuts even against contested shots, but the defensive game plan and execution from Toronto in Game 1 will make it very tough if they execute the same way in Game 2 (and beyond).

    Draymond needs to score a few points, and Siakim regresses to the mean, and GS wins.

  • Njsum1

    @Stewburtx8 said...

    All fair points. As my initial post stated, I am more focused on the other side of the ball. Toronto’s defense was very good and I am not sure what Golden State can do differently in Game 2 (and until they get Durant back

    Ahhhh….we sort of agree…I don’t expect GS to do anything more offensively. Toronto is an excellent defensive team. I expect Toronto to do less offensively.

  • gaelicgirl

    @telestraightshooter said...

    I love it

    Which Warrior has an emotional makeup most close the the old Ron Artest (Malice-in-the-palace)?

    Um…Draymond? LOL I love it, too.

  • BerkeleyBoss

    @Stewburtx8 said...

    All fair points. As my initial post stated, I am more focused on the other side of the ball. Toronto’s defense was very good and I am not sure what Golden State can do differently in Game 2 (and until they get Durant back). Obviously Curry or Thompson could go nuts even against contested shots, but the defensive game plan and execution from Toronto in Game 1 will make it very tough if they execute the same way in Game 2 (and beyond). Green and/or Iggy would have to start making outside shots.

    The Warriors were pretty efficient scoring the ball, with a 116.5 offensive rating on 59.5% TS. They just turned the ball over too much and played terrible defense.

  • gaelicgirl

    @Stewburtx8 said...

    Toronto’s defense was very good and I am not sure what Golden State can do differently in Game 2 (and until they get Durant back).

    The defense was very good, but Steph still put up 34 points and Draymond still got a triple double. Unfortunately, the Warriors’ transition defense was abysmal – they gave up 24 fast-break points and committed 17 turnovers. I’m not expecting either of those things to happen again in Game 2. Despite everything, the Raptors only won by 9 points and it felt like the Warriors still had a chance until very late in the game. I see plenty of reasons to be optimistic that the Warriors win on Sunday.

  • gaelicgirl

    @BerkeleyBoss said...

    The Warriors were pretty efficient scoring the ball, with a 116.5 offensive rating on 59.5% TS. They just turned the ball over too much and played terrible defense.


    That pretty much sums it up.

  • barko15

    For those interested my ultra contrarian strategy worked in the main $22.22 FD contest. I purposely made 7 bad entries with bench players as my MVPs and with McKinnie hitting the last 3 I won $3,125 (split 8 ways from the 25k promotion). I think this strategy offered tremendous positive EV but with the game 2 promotion only 10k I don’t know if it pays off again.

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