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  • kmsurfs2000

    I used to love basketball but now I am getting to the point where I cant watch it. The players today are so SOFT. The NBA really needs to either shorten the season or change the way it is run. The resting of players all season is now out of control. The teams of my youth were hard edged players that would never take games off especially vs rival teams. If it was not for daily fantasy I cant imagine anybody watching 95% of these games. The worst part is these guys get a game check when they take the night off while the fans pay big money on tickets.

    I only play DK now as well. Every night guys throw away money on FD when they find out a guy is taking the night off. Fantasy is hard enough as it is but to have to have ZERO chance because you are playing a rested player boggles the mind when other sites allow you to take him out.

    That is all for my rant as I have to find scrubs to start for the stars that are too soft to play tonight-looks like Kyrie is sitting so here comes Delly

  • TeamTwerk

    Shorten the season by a lot IMO. The refs are instructed to call a million fouls in an attempt to protect players from injury but it doesn’t seem to help. 75% of players in the league are injured to one degree or another by this point in the season. Maybe playing every other night for 6 months was somehow doable back in the day but not the way the game is played nowadays.

  • jsw3ent

    @TeamTwerk said...

    Shorten the season by a lot IMO. The refs are instructed to call a million fouls in an attempt to protect players from injury but it doesn’t seem to help. 75% of players in the league are injured to one degree or another by this point in the season. Maybe playing every other night for 6 months was somehow doable back in the day but not the way the game is played nowadays.

    “Back in the day” —they actually played defense—and didn’t travel on chartered jets—-it was much tougher on them back in the day.

  • TheRyanFlaherty

    Yeah it is pretty lame. You’d think a “rest day” would be any of the days during the week when there isn’t a game scheduled.

    I’m sure it can also be infuriating when you think of it from a monetary standpoint – Where stars are being paid a game check to do nothing, while fans are likely going to be disappointed and are paying face value for an inferior product.

    It can be tough though, because while I skew toward what I said above, I can see the logic in why some teams incorporate these philosophies.
    I also started thinking of potential solutions – mainly trying to stop the straight up “rest” days – but I realized, that’s pretty worthless too because if you made enforced negative penalties there, teams/players will just create phantom injuries.

    In the meantime I guess the best solution may be to root/support the teams/players who go out there and grind every day. For the most part I think Golden St. falls in that category and it’s likely a reason why so many fans gravitate and root for them, even if they aren’t your favorite team.

  • bigcrip

    it makes the good players have longer careers, which makes me happy. i could watch tim duncan in the paint for 20 more years

  • TeamTwerk

    @jsw3ent said...

    “Back in the day” —they actually played defense—and didn’t travel on chartered jets—-it was much tougher on them back in the day.

    Wouldn’t you agree that there are way more injuries in the game today than there were back in the day? If the game used to be so much more physical what do you attribute all the injuries to nowadays?

  • jsw3ent

    @TeamTwerk said...

    Wouldn’t you agree that there are way more injuries in the game today than there were back in the day? If the game used to be so much more physical what do you attribute all the injuries to nowadays?

    I think back in the day, players played through the injuries-( WILLIS REED )—-maybe training methods ?- like in baseball, pitchers used to throw 100—-150 pitches—-now if they throw 100 pitches —it is like the world ends——more and more need the Tommy John surgery because they are babied now.

  • tonytone1908

    @TeamTwerk said...

    Wouldn’t you agree that there are way more injuries in the game today than there were back in the day? If the game used to be so much more physical what do you attribute all the injuries to nowadays?

    Guys are just way too reckless these days. Guys like Rondo, Rose, Westbrook, these guys hit the floor 30-50 times a game. In the 90’s you rarely saw a guy on the ground unless he took a Rodman elbow.

  • tonytone1908

    @TeamTwerk said...

    Wouldn’t you agree that there are way more injuries in the game today than there were back in the day? If the game used to be so much more physical what do you attribute all the injuries to nowadays?

    Guys are just way too reckless these days. Guys like Rondo, Rose, Westbrook, these guys hit the floor 30-50 times a game. In the 90’s you rarely saw a guy on the ground unless he took a Rodman elbow to the head.

  • cedric19

    The thing that infuriates me is that 95% of people watching these games are betting on them or rostering players for fantasy, and it is still allowed for douchebags like Popazits to play unannounced little games with the lineups.

    As far as all the injuries, I sincerely believe that because of all the training technology and supplements players are stronger and more explosive than ever, but ligaments and tendons haven’t caught up with these advances. For example if you ever took creatine you know it quickly increases your muscle strength but you could more easily damage tendons or tear muscles.

    That being said I doubt 30 years ago too many players sat out because of a thigh bruise

  • crowntheirasses

    I wonder if the injuries stem from over training? I don’t know pretend to know the ins and out of how often the players are lifting and practicing vs. back in the day, but something is causing this injuries problem, and that would be my guess. For instance, seeing that LeBron on his “rest day” actually went to Miami to lift weights with Wade really had me scratching my head.

    I completely agree that the product has become much weaker and have ranted to the NBA about this very subject on Twitter, suggesting that they shorten the season dramatically or extend the time between games. Obviously, this is laughable so long as the money machine keeps printing, but it isn’t fair to the fans that pay the ticket prices to see a dramatically watered down product.

    As a Bulls fan, it also really pissed me off how Thibs ground his players to a pulp. He is a great defensive coach, but the reality is that the Pop way seems the only sane approach in today’s NBA, especially with players that have tons of mileage.

    I like to see defense, I’m not a fan of big men shooting 18 footers, I miss bigs that can play with their back to the basket in the low post and I can’t stand seeing guys jacking the 3 outside of the couple of them that are any good at it. The long rebound run outs this causes are ridiculous and this idea that there will be a whole new generation that changes the game with their ability to shoot the 3 (4 point line? Fuck that!) is ruining the game to some extent too. The mid range barely exists anymore (outside of bigs shooting 18 footers from the “high post.”) There has been an erosion of fundamentals but at least many of the players from Europe still seem to be getting coached up in this respect.

    I still appreciate the game, but the NBA does have some soul searching to do with their approach going forward.

  • FoothillsFlash

    In the 90s, I’m pretty sure there was a season where Jordan played in every single game, maybe not a ton of min, but he played. As far as the NBA goes, it seems stupid that more than half the teams make the playoffs. Cut the playoffs back to 4 teams from each conference and get this thing over with a month sooner.

  • tvsfrink

    Easy solution: switch to hockey.

  • FkCoolers

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    @cedric19 said...

    The thing that infuriates me is that 95% of people watching these games are betting on them or rostering players for fantasy, and it is still allowed for douchebags like Popazits to play unannounced little games with the lineups.

    You’re totally right. We should tell him that season long Yahoo leagues and the $3 Sharpshooter are what really matter here.

    Boy you hit the nail on the head.

  • makeitra1n

    My personal favorite is the resting of players.spurs do it cause theyre old.and they have championships to back it up.kyrie Irving on the other hand…literally no excuse

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    I don’t really buy the “throwing money away on FD” argument. What about the night where someone who’s 40% owned is ruled out and you didn’t roster him? You’re already ahead of 40% of the crowd.

    Yeah, it’s a gamble, but some people don’t want to monitor their lineups the entire night.

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    @jbunting7711 said...

    I don’t really buy the “throwing money away on FD” argument. What about the night where someone who’s 40% owned is ruled out and you didn’t roster him? You’re already ahead of 40% of the crowd.

    Yeah, it’s a gamble, but some people don’t want to monitor their lineups the entire night.

    Much like everything else in life, people remember the bad breaks and not the good ones.

  • badtrip

    @FkCoolers said...

    Much like everything else in life, people remember the bad breaks and not the good ones.

    If I ever get a good break I’ll damn sure remember it!

  • noddy

    The players these days are mentally weak compared to “back in the day”. Just like our country unfortunately.

  • deejones49

    Like they cant work 30 minutes a day

  • rebkell

    @jbunting7711 said...

    I don’t really buy the “throwing money away on FD” argument. What about the night where someone who’s 40% owned is ruled out and you didn’t roster him? You’re already ahead of 40% of the crowd.

    I don’t buy into that one much, if you own the big player that gets scratched you are pretty much assured a loss, but if you didn’t you still have to beat a decent majority of the other 60%, of course I’m mostly referring to GPP’s. You have an advantage, but it’s nowhere near the disadvantage if you roster the scratch.

  • travs424

    I think it is because professional career schedule is much longer today then it was 25 years ago. pitchers, Nba, soccer players. almost every athlete that shows any signs of talent start playing sports full time when they are 12 years old. A good pitcher has pitched thousands of competitive innings before he is pro. he also has to pitch full time, there is no more off season for players with talent.

    an Nba player has been playing full time minutes,year round some playing every minute of a game because they are the best player on the team for 6-8 years before they are even eligible for an nba draft.

    I think back in the day it was not as competitive to become a pro and guys were not overworked until they actually became a pro.

  • hendry

    @TeamTwerk said...

    75% of players in the league are injured to one degree or another by this point in the season.

    eh?

  • TeamTwerk

    @hendry said...

    eh?

    Ok I don’t know the exact numbers but it seems like nearly everyone has missed games due to injuries this season. A lot of the injuries are recurring and lingering. When you can count on one or two hands the number of starting players that have remained healthy through out a season out of a starting pool of 150 players it seems like to me they are playing too many games, too frequently. Regardless, I don’t fault coaches for resting or saving players as a legitimate strategy.

  • coninefan

    “Everything was so much better back in the day” – every generation ever, as they get older.

  • KillaChap

    @coninefan said...

    “Everything was so much better back in the day” – every generation ever, as they get older.

    And as someone who used to think my grandfather was an out of touch old man when he said it, I can admit he was right.

    I personally think what we are seeing now is the culmination of weakness in our society. Kids getting time off for hang nails and then pampered and spoiled their entire lives. Lebron is one of the softest players of all time and the guy is built like a house. Anthony Davis is Samuel L. Jackson in unbreakable. You are paid to play a sport so get on the floor and play. Maybe instead of going to the club after the games, they should go home and go to bed at a respectable time and rest? I bet their bodies would last a lot longer especially with the technology and training methods out there. It’s also an attitude thing; look at how Lebron runs the Cavs or how Boogie disrespects his coach on the floor and on twitter (they should get off of twitter, too). Just a weak, weak generation.

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