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  • tmarohl

    Anthony Davis just traded to the Lakers for Lonzo, Hart, Ingram, and three first round picks including the number 4.

  • Njsum1

    @gaelicgirl said...

    Probably the one thing everyone can agree on.


    And that this puppy is really cute 🐶

  • yisman

    @hobbes2d said...

    I don’t think they gave up that much. Basically just swapping awful contract for awful contract but at least Russ for the present future is a reliable NBA talent. CP3 is constantly banged up and flopping around and was basically a total zero that entire playoffs. That was probably the best full season Harden’s ever had start to finish. He finally didn’t “choke” in the playoffs. Dude had 1 eye nearly swollen shut and he’s knocking down clutch 30 footers playing with basically scrubs against the best team in the league. At the very least at least Westbrook will be an equal with Harden in terms of playing hard every night and coming to play so he gets some help in that regard.

    If I were Houston I would still look to trade Capela and get another quality piece onto that team that can play in the playoffs. Even with a severely flawed team Houston was able to take GS to the brink and there’s probably more parity than ever right now. Though I will say Houston is kind of screwed against the Clippers like most of the rest of the league will be lol. Edit Though if they pull off acquiring Iggy that would be a huge addition.

    they did give up too much because it was a swap of bad contracts but Houston also gave up two firsts and two swaps and the firsts are well into the future when Houston probably won’t be that good.

    Morey probably figures he won’t be the GM then so he doesn’t give a damn about future first rounders.

    I bet Houston could’ve gotten this deal done for less. It doesn’t seem there were any other serious suitors for Westbrook.

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    @yisman said...

    they did give up too much because it was a swap of bad contracts but Houston also gave up two firsts and two swaps and the firsts are well into the future when Houston probably won’t be that good.

    Morey probably figures he won’t be the GM then so he doesn’t give a damn about future first rounders.

    I bet Houston could’ve gotten this deal done for less. It doesn’t seem there were any other serious suitors for Westbrook.

    I agree with you and NoLimits and others on here. This trade is super strange to me because the Rockets gave up free optionality (with the picks) and didn’t improve to a championship level team, maybe even got worse in some people’s eyes. Since it’s championship or bust for the Rockets, I think this is a bad trade.

  • telestraightshooter

    The Oklahoma City Thunder are already working with Chris Paul agents to redirect him to a new team, sources tell ESPN.
    Leon Rose and Steven Heumann represent Paul.
    While the Miami Heat have been prominent in the conversations, there are other possibilities being explored for Paul.
    Sam Presti worked with Rose last year on a similar situation involving Carmelo Anthony.

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    and in directly related news – The 22 percent stake in the Oklahoma City Thunder previously owned by Aubrey McClendon is currently available for sale, according to a Bloomberg report from Scott Soshnick.

    The sale will be run by the boutique investment bank Inner Circle Sports.
    The Thunder are worth about $1.5 billion, according to Forbes.
    Oklahoma City has sold out 355 consecutive home games and posted an average local television rating of 6.69, which ranked second in the NBA.

    so asking price is $330,000,000
    for comparison, what is the value of Paul’s contract?
    ;^>

  • tmarohl

    @telestraightshooter said...

    The Oklahoma City Thunder are already working with Chris Paul agents to redirect him to a new team, sources tell ESPN.
    Leon Rose and Steven Heumann represent Paul.
    While the Miami Heat have been prominent in the conversations, there are other possibilities being explored for Paul.
    Sam Presti worked with Rose last year on a similar situation involving Carmelo Anthony.

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    .

    and in directly related news – The 22 percent stake in the Oklahoma City Thunder previously owned by Aubrey McClendon is currently available for sale, according to a Bloomberg report from Scott Soshnick.

    The sale will be run by the boutique investment bank Inner Circle Sports.
    The Thunder are worth about $1.5 billion, according to Forbes.
    Oklahoma City has sold out 355 consecutive home games and posted an average local television rating of 6.69, which ranked second in the NBA.

    so asking price is $330,000,000
    for comparison, what is the value of Paul’s contract?
    ;^>

    125 million

  • miggs6876

    @tmarohl said...

    Yes, I remember. They did that to him twice actually. The difference as I see it is for this to work is that Harden will not have the ball in his hands, because Russell needs it to be effective since he can’t shoot. That turns Harden into a catch and shoot jump shot guy when they are both on the floor. Might actually be in Houston’s best interest to limit the time they are on the floor together. That way they can both do what they do best, in shorter spurts. That would also mean that Harden and Russell would be fresher on the defensive end.

    It will be interesting to see what happens. I can’t help but think rocket fans have to like the trade. They weren’t going anywhere with CP3 and Harden. At least WB and possible other moves to come gives them a sense that they are moving ahead and still trying to win. Whether it works who knows. I give the rockets organization credit for not staying stale.

  • miggs6876

    If I were Westbrook I’d certainly be working on my jumper in the off season. Don’t know the stats but I remember him being a better shooter a few years ago. I could be wrong though. Just an eyeball test.

  • IronMonkey415

    Has to be the craziest off season… right?

  • Njsum1

    @miggs6876 said...

    If I were Westbrook I’d certainly be working on my jumper in the off season. Don’t know the stats but I remember him being a better shooter a few years ago. I could be wrong though. Just an eyeball test.

    His shooting percentage numbers (3pt and 2pt) have been pretty consistent throughout his career.

  • jcotdl

    @IronMonkey415 said...

    Has to be the craziest off season… right?

    The last two weeks or so have been nuts. I think the amount of movement is kind of exciting on a macro level but I feel like the players have so much power now that this looks like it will be the new normal. We may see this same carousel every summer (probably not of this magnitude). I feel like we are living in the dystopian future we were warned of by the old-timers, ‘free agency will ruin the game, and players will have no allegiances to the jerseys they wear.’ This definitely seems like the high-water mark-to-date for players being able to command and control their own career destiny- not sure that is all bad but it is definitely different. Its just now that Lebron isn’t the only one doing it..

  • gaelicgirl

    @IronMonkey415 said...

    Has to be the craziest off season… right?

    Ray Ratto eagerly awaits the 2025 draft in which Sam Presti has all the picks.
    https://deadspin.com/the-nba-offseason-doesnt-get-better-than-this-unfortun-1836310668

  • yisman

    @gaelicgirl said...

    Ray Ratto eagerly awaits the 2025 draft in which Sam Presti has all the picks.
    https://deadspin.com/the-nba-offseason-doesnt-get-better-than-this-unfortun-1836310668

    OKC having the best offseason of anyone.

    I expect they’ll be able to turn CP3 into something too.

    People fixated on the Lakers and Clippers but those teams sacrificed enormous assets to try and go after a title in a 1-3 year window, and as I’ve repeatedly said, I’d be very surprised if the Lakers win a title in the next 3 years. IMO, LeBron is done winning titles. His ego is far outstripping his skill and effort. What’s amusing to think about is if LeBron had stayed in Cleveland rather than going to Miami, he’d probably still be ring-less. His teaming up with Bosh/Wade allowed him to win thanks to two other stars and allowed the Cavs to win 3 lotteries to entice LeBron to return.

    What the Thunder have in future assets is absurd.

  • gaelicgirl

    @yisman said...

    His ego is far outstripping his skill and effort.

    Same as it ever was

    He’s been the league’s premier narcissist for years

  • NoLimits0

    Don’t you guys know what Sam Presti is doing?

    He’s playing the long game for a 40 year LeBron James in 2024.

  • jcotdl

    I imagine Uncle Drew (just go with it) pulling us aside in a few years and lamenting the fall of the traditional and team-oriented NBA. He would whisper about how when players became agents and started to manipulate the market, young fans began to root for the players instead of franchises. Although it was exciting to see the players innovating, it became disenfranchising to see players routinely seek larger markets and greater profits. He would probably expound on how team defense suffered, coaching became devalued, and backroom dealings became the norm. He might say this was the end of the small-market team; this is an era where drafting well and developing talent may never garnish a championship, particularly so as players become increasingly nomadic.
    As we are all DFS players, this is obviously the player-agency that we envisioned and, ultimately, bet on. We have, as a community, totally invested in this reality and fostered its’ existence. Although fandom is evolving in-step with this progression, I do worry that a younger generation will have a totally different (diminished?) appreciation of the game. If someone were to ask my 9-year-old-self who the best players were, I am pretty sure they would all have played for the Bullets. I may have been wrong (definitely), but as a kid I would likely fought you to the death to prove otherwise.
    Sorry, I’m rambling. But at what point do we worry about the rabid youth fanbase that cannot root for teams and only follow their favorite players? As the DFS community, are we contributing to the decline of the purity of the game?
    -Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy

  • tmarohl

    Just got back from the Giannis MVP celebration at the Fiserv Forum plaza. Great excuse to drink beer on a beautiful 85 degree sunny day!

  • NoLimits0

    Dang no one got the Lebron James Jr reference.

  • tmarohl

    @NoLimits0 said...

    Dang no one got the Lebron James Jr reference.

    So you are saying they are going to have father and son in 4 years or so?

  • yisman

    Ben Simmons signs an extension.

    Five years for 170, the max

    On the subject of Simmons:

    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/76ers-tobias-harris-says-he-dared-ben-simmons-to-shoot-threes-during-recent-workouts/

  • gaelicgirl

    Bob Myers on D’Angelo Russell: “We didn’t sign him with the intention of trading him”
    https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/1150848401518366720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1150848401518366720&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnba

    Also, LOL
    https://twitter.com/SPUN/status/1150859554147598336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1150859554147598336&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fnba

  • tmarohl

    My proclaimed worst player in the NBA being waived today. Anyone think an NBA team will even have any interest? Woj reported that even Lebron doesn’t want him.

  • gaelicgirl

    @tmarohl said...

    My proclaimed worst player in the NBA being waived today. Anyone think an NBA team will even have any interest? Woj reported that even Lebron doesn’t want him.

    I heard on TV that they’ve been trying to trade him since November.
    He’s never gonna live this down

    but he can afford the Henny for life! He’ll be okay LOL

  • tmarohl

    @gaelicgirl said...

    I heard on TV that they’ve been trying to trade him since November.
    He’s never gonna live this down

    but he can afford the Henny for life! He’ll be okay LOL

    All the talking heads thought their would be a huge demand for his expiring contract a few months back. Turns out, not so much.

  • yisman

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27203077/heat-waiters-answers-trolls-new-physique

    Dion Waiters wrote on Instagram Monday that he read all the jokes on social media about his conditioning last season, but rather than “joining the circus,” he used it as motivation to improve his physique.

    The veteran Miami Heat guard, listed at 6-foot-4 and 215 pounds on the team’s roster, showed off his new slimmer, shredded look in the post, writing that he was in a “dark place mentally & physically” last season while trying to return from the ankle injury that ended his season in 2017-18.

  • gaelicgirl

    @yisman said...

    The veteran Miami Heat guard, listed at 6-foot-4 and 215 pounds on the team’s roster, showed off his new slimmer, shredded look in the post

    Saw his post on TV today, he looks great! Good for him.

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