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  • Benf15harp

    @dgballer said...

    Lmao

  • RipCityRings

    Korver is unrosterable because either Jaylen locks him down, or like last game Jaylen gets into foul trouble and he shoots 100% (including 4/4 from deep) and still doesn’t hit value.

    The only scenario in which Korver is a good play is if he comes out shooting lights out and manages to get at least a couple steals/blocks/assists. For a guy averaging 6.3 FGA per game that doesn’t strike me as a great bet.

  • superstars92

    @Benf15harp said...

    I’m still trying to compute superstars saying terry porter was an elite/near hall of fame caliber player. Career avg 12/3/5 lmao.

    Porter was used in the multiple All-Stars in the same team on the West example and was an great PG in his prime, but it doesn’t take away from the fact there were literally almost NO GOOD PLAYERS in the EAST (not on the Bulls) in the 1990s when MJ was great. I love how you cherry pick my argument to point out a small fact that takes away from the real facts.

    I bet you also think Shawn Kemp who “averaged” 14/8 was also a scrub. This is why you should watch basketball instead of look at stats. Shawn Kemp was in his prime a top 10 NBA player who woulda been a 1st ballot HOFer if he didn’t do drugs/alcohol. Just watch his highlights. Also just FYI, since you are a stats geek, “career stats” isn’t equal to “prime stats” and we are talking about prime since it’s only the top level of competition that needs to be considered.

    Make a list of great players on the East vs. in the West in the 1990s. There were 5x the amount of great players in the West than in the East. Just look at the facts. It was a cakewalk for MJ to make the Finals. Give him props for winning all those Finals though, but don’t say the East was hard. The East was a joke in the 1990s.

    Go ahead name some of those great players in the East in the 1990s. Let’s see here…Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, Young Shaq, Young Penny, maybe Alonzo Mourning. That’s it. The next best is John Starks lol.

    Jordan vs. the Celtics/Pistons isn’t a valid argument lol. He lost to those teams all those years (most in the 1980s) except for the Pistons last year. We are talking about how easy it is to win, not lose. People don’t even realize MJ won his titles in the 1990s not the 1980s so there’s no point in having this argument. This is like saying LBJ lost all those times earlier on in his career, which is unrelated to his current success.

  • ASitar

    Took Korver out…100% Monroe

  • RipCityRings

    Also here’s my hit piece on JR:

    1. He’s JR Smith.
    2. Shooting 21% for the series.

  • Benf15harp

    Barkley
    Isaiah Thomas
    Larry bird
    Reggie miller
    Patrick Ewing who wasn’t old in the early 90’s
    Wilkins
    Grant hill
    Penny
    Shaq
    There was plenty of great players in the east from the mid 80’s to 98

    But it’s not about the star players it’s about the whole team.
    No chance Lebron today even with the heat could of got past the pistons or Knicks back then.
    And those bulls would absolutely destroy the current nba and it’s overall lack of defense

  • casper

    @RipCityRings said...

    1. He’s JR Smith.

    hes at home 3400 on dk and plays better when disrespected i sent him a link

  • Benf15harp

    @superstars92 said...

    Porter was used in the multiple All-Stars in the same team on the West example and was an great PG in his prime, but it doesn’t take away from the fact there were literally almost NO GOOD PLAYERS in the EAST (not on the Bulls) in the 1990s when MJ was great. I love how you cherry pick my argument to point out a small fact that takes away from the real facts.

    I bet you also think Shawn Kemp who “averaged” 14/8 was also a scrub. This is why you should watch basketball instead of look at stats. Shawn Kemp was in his prime a top 10 NBA player who woulda been a 1st ballot HOFer if he didn’t do drugs/alcohol. Just watch his highlights. Also just FYI, since you are a stats geek, “career stats” isn’t equal to “prime stats” and we are talking about prime since it’s only the top level of competition that needs to be considered.

    Make a list of great players on the East vs. in the West in the 1990s. There were 5x the amount of great players in the West than in the East. Just look at the facts. It was a cakewalk for MJ to make the Finals. Give him props for winning all those Finals though, but don’t say the East was hard. The East was a joke in the 1990s.

    Go ahead name some of those great players in the East in the 1990s. Let’s see here…Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, Young Shaq, Young Penny, maybe Alonzo Mourning. That’s it. The next best is John Starks lol.

    Jordan vs. the Celtics/Pistons isn’t a valid argument lol. He lost to those teams all those years (most in the 1980s) except for the Pistons last year. We are talking about how easy it is to win, not lose. People don’t even realize MJ won his titles in the 1990s not the 1980s so there’s no point in having this argument. This is like saying LBJ lost all those times earlier on in his career, which is unrelated to his current success.

    Shawn kemp was exciting but not a hall of fame caliber player

  • Benf15harp

    prime stats? Lol

  • superstars92

    @Benf15harp said...

    Shawn kemp was exciting but not a hall of fame caliber player

    I didn’t say he was (although he might have been if he didn’t do drugs/alcohol)….I said the West was so loaded Shawn Kemp is forgotten when he woulda been a top 3 player in the East on a non-Bulls team. I name like a ton of great players and I get pointed out for guys like Porter/Kemp, which isn’t the point.

    Like pointing out things about Porter isn’t the point. I’m just saying if you think the East was so difficult in the 1990s (1992-1998), can you name like 10 good players in the East not on the Bulls? The point of naming Porter/Kemp was to show the 2nd best players on teams were even All-Stars and pretty good in the prime. Kemp was more than exciting. Kemp/Payton and the Sonics were a top 5 team in the NBA for like a 5 season stretch but just never won a title (would have if it weren’t for MJ). They are like the current Rockets.

    I can easily name 10 good players in the West. How about 10 HOFers playing in the West at the same time?

    Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Gary Payton, John Stockton, Charles Barkley, Cylde Drexler, Karl Malone, Chris Mullin, David Robinson, and Dikembe Mutombo.

    I just named 10 HOFers who played in the West in the 1990s at the same time during the MJ Era. Now do that for the East please. Name like 5.

    Oh and I didn’t even mention Shawn Kemp, Shaq who played 1996-1998 in the West, Dennis Rodman who played 2 years in the West, Kevin Johnson who was a top 3 PG in his prime, Tim Hardaway, and a ton of others. I didn’t even mention Magic who still overlapped with part of the MJ Era. Of course, I’ll also mention Terry Porter as a good player and for you guys, that makes my argument of the 10 HOFers above automatically false.

    The point was MJ is the GOAT, but saying the East was stacked is just not true. The 1990s West was the most stacked conference in the history of basketball in any decade. That’s why MJ is the GOAT. He prevented like so many top 50 players from winning championships from his greatness.

  • scott33

    Fucking JR Smith, almost played the bum

  • sox9

    Looks like JR is the differentiator in the winning LU

  • sox9

    @sox9 said...

    Looks like JR is the differentiator in the winning LU

    got have him in at least one LU and Korver in at least one as well. either guy could go off for 25 scoring points+peripherals

  • sox9

    @sox9 said...

    got have him in at least one LU and Korver in at least one as well. either guy could go off for 25 scoring points+peripherals

    actually someone posted something like that earlier, 25 or 5 points was the gist of it.

  • sox9

    Morris 2 fouls early

  • sox9

    Can’t play the Celts in Cleve or the Cavs in BOS. I only have a few LU going but only one Celt in each LU.

  • aus1032

    @sox9 said...

    Looks like JR is the differentiator in the winning LU

    I’ve seen this show before. I’ve seen him start at 15 in the first quarter and finish with 16.25

  • RipCityRings

    Jaylen is playing so passive, hope he starts attacking along with Rozier.

  • sox9

    Monroe may only get in if it’s a blow-out, which is likely.

  • sox9

    @RipCityRings said...

    Jaylen is playing so passive, hope he starts attacking along with Rozier.

    Tatum MIA as well

  • sox9

    3 fouls on Morris, maybe Monroe does get in early

  • NDNole

    WTH is tatum doing?

  • sox9

    I don’t get why Nance has not been playing more. he is a bit of a matchup nightmare for BOS.

  • Mr_tjRoto

    Colin Cowherd is such an idiot.
    Making up stories out the side of his ars everyday something different than what he said the day before

    https://www.foxsports.com/watch/the-herd-with-colin-cowherd/video/1238460995778

  • sox9

    @sox9 said...

    I don’t get why Nance has not been playing more. he is a bit of a matchup nightmare for BOS.

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