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  • y2mulder

    Tweet: ‏@howardstutz 3 minutes ago

    BREAKING: Nevada Gaming Control Board bans daily fantasy sports websites from Nevada. Says it’s gambling Story coming @reviewjournal #RJnow

    Letter: http://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=10481

  • Vigilantes

    @jesse3250 said...

    This is what happens when things are left unregulated. A few greedy people in the industry want everything for themselves. I still don’t understand how a few handful of people win most of the money. I have heard of an edge, but that’s more than a slight edge. Even in Vegas the casinos only have a small edge. WTF. Some people are going to be looking for jobs if fantasy goes down.

    DK let the 1%ers make the rules. Whatever they want, they get from them.

    Kickers add too much variance so the 1%ers don’t want them. No problem. Gone.

    There should have been way more restrictions on level of buyins or total number of contests someone can play. There is no way a Condia-Max-Ram-Jizz type should be blasting max entries in quarter and dollar games. Easy fix to set some rules, but that would slow down how fast they could gobble up the moneys.

    DK even gave these guys lavish gifts straight from the rake. Getting court-side seats to Clippers games isn’t cheap. Often they didn’t win these, they just got them as gifts. These guys not only got to make the rules, they got many bonuses on top.

    DK is way too buddy-buddy with them and some cases just are them apparantly. Clear conflict of interest with DK employees getting black out drunk with top pros using our rake. DK has not been a good champion for the industry.

  • Njcop2001

    @Hatorade said...

    That fact that there was no mention of season long fantasy in the NGCB notice makes me think this all about protecting the special interests of the casinos. How many of their residents play in pay season long leagues on CBS or with their friends? Are these people all in violation of the law now? What in their analysis differentiates dfs from season long? Seems to me the NGCB shouldn’t be a legal arm of the casinos. I’m sure an investigation of their practices could produce quite a bit of illegal and corrupt material.

    On a side note, yes Draftkings, apparently “This is the fantasy football season that could change it all.” THANKS ASSHOLES.

    As long as no one is taking a “rake” all Fantasy games played amongst friends is legal.

  • tone17

    Well, goodbye everyone

  • Hatorade

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    @Njcop2001 said...

    As long as no one is taking a “rake” all Fantasy games played amongst friends is legal.

    There was no mention of “rake” in their notice only that they would be considered illegal sports pools. There was also direct verbiage about wagering on the collective performance of individuals in sporting events that would definitely overlap to season long.

  • Redskins4

    @Hatorade said...

    On a side note, yes Draftkings, apparently “This is the fantasy football season that could change it all.” THANKS ASSHOLES.

    +1 DraftKings is not doing the industry any favors, thanks guys.

  • slcseas

    @Njcop2001 said...

    Just because you get some crumbs doesn’t mean the game isn’t rigged. There are players collecting massive prizes and you are happy with your crumbs. If you play often enough you realize how hard it is to place at the top of tournaments on a consistent basis no matter how much homework you do, but somehow some people have no problem doing it. I guess we all just need to build better line ups.

    Holy insecurity Batman!

    Since when did income inequality become a DFS issue too? Why can’t people just make peace with the fact that somebody does something better than they do and they get to reap the rewards? Tell me Mr. DFS socialist, what should we be happy with? If the money is spread around equally, we all lose to the rake. Sigh.

    Allow me translate:

    DFS needs to be changed until I’m making a lot of money! I’m entitled to it because I was born. I don’t want to quit, you should just make it harder for the people that are good at it. That seems like the most logical and fair solution.

  • tonytone1908

    @tomac said...

    To recap:

    The game’s not rigged.
    Yes, the game is rigged, but you are a fool if you think that it affects you.
    We need the sharks and scripting in order for the not rigged rigged game to succeed.
    The scripted sharks win 90% of the money, but you have a 50/50 chance of winning some of it too.
    If the scripted sharks who win 90% of the money in the not rigged rigged gane stopped playing, your chances at winning would decrease.

    Only part you left out is, there would be nothing left to win. They might win 90% of the money but without the money they put in what is left to win? Take away the sharks and their scripting and how big do you think the prize pools would be?

  • tomac

    Big enough for me.

  • tonytone1908

    @tomac said...

    Big enough for me.

    Really? Because the prize pools at Aces are about what would be left yet I don’t see you playing over there?

  • 63TMB

    @tonytone1908 said...

    Only part you left out is, there would be nothing left to win. They might win 90% of the money but without the money they put in what is left to win? Take away the sharks and their scripting and how big do you think the prize pools would be?

    It would be perfectly fine for those people who play cash games

  • tonytone1908

    @63TMB said...

    It would be perfectly fine for those people who play cash games

    And the rest be damned? You think they make more money on the large pool GPP’s or the $1 H2H’s?

  • 63TMB

    @tonytone1908 said...

    And the rest be damned? You think they make more money on the large pool GPP’s or the $1 H2H’s?

    You think people will just stop playing? This is an addiction for plenty of the big time players.

  • Nookx

    @kgeorge said...

    @tonytone1908 said…

    Exactly, people seem to think that governments are made up of perfect angels rather than the most corrupt criminals you’ll find anywhere. I’d rather have ESPN, NFL, NBA, MLB, etc making sure fd and dk are treating customers fairly rather than some corrupt criminals with guns.

    This

  • dizzle

    @Putz said...

    Makes no sense in this case and has no place here. The other side could easily argue that if you vote conservative, the moral right will shut everything down that is deemed immoral, in their view, such as drinking, smoking, gambling, while they engage in this same activity behind closed doors outside the public’s view.

    But they haven’t…

  • btwice80

    @tonytone1908 said...

    And the rest be damned? You think they make more money on the large pool GPP’s or the $1 H2H’s?

    I definitely make more in cash games.

  • QQSTUKIE

    @tonytone1908 said...

    And the rest be damned? You think they make more money on the large pool GPP’s or the $1 H2H’s?

    pretty sure the sites are happy to BREAK EVEN on the BIG GPPS, cash game = bread and butter.

  • Njcop2001

    I just watched Senator Bob Menedez on OTL on ESPN. He doesn’t want to shut down DFS. He said his goal was to make sure the consumer is using a fair product and regulations may be necessary to ensure that. Oh, and FD and DK refused to come on air to answer questions.

  • Sports100

    @glorifiedmonkey13 said...

    A few people have touched on this, but this is a direct result of FD & DK running the most obnoxious advertising campaign in the history of media. I would guess many people who’ve never played DFS now hate the industry simply based off those advertisements.

    +1

  • footballfplyer55567

    @Njcop2001 said...

    I just watched Senator Bob Menedez on OTL on ESPN. He doesn’t want to shut down DFS. He said his goal was to make sure the consumer is using a fair product and regulations may be necessary to ensure that. Oh, and FD and DK refused to come on air to answer questions.

    Which means his goal is to maximize revenue for the government (or his state), while businesses prefer to avoid paying fees/taxes associated with the like that can be 20%+ of their bottom line.

  • Njcop2001

    @footballfplyer55567 said...

    Which means his goal is to maximize revenue for the government (or his state), while businesses prefer to avoid paying fees/taxes associated with the like that can be 20%+ of their bottom line.

    Would you prefer these sites to do whatever they want with no oversight whatsoever ?

  • tonytone1908

    @QQSTUKIE said...

    pretty sure the sites are happy to BREAK EVEN on the BIG GPPS, cash game = bread and butter.

    FD will make $747,125 on the Sunday Million alone. If they take 20 cents per $1 H2H game they need 149,425 games to equal that. Who do you think posts the vast majority of H2H games? The sharks.

    You guys need these people and whatever else they bring to the table or you got nothing left. Nobody gets it.

  • theoddsmaker

    @Njcop2001 said...

    I just watched Senator Bob Menedez on OTL on ESPN. He doesn’t want to shut down DFS. He said his goal was to make sure the consumer is using a fair product and regulations may be necessary to ensure that. Oh, and FD and DK refused to come on air to answer questions.

    Do you guys think this whole not getting out in front of this is the real issue? Reminds me of when a goalie comes out to stop a breakaway player from scoring a goal as opposed to sitting back and allowing a penalty shot type opportunity for a goal. Lame analogy i know

  • Olhausen

    @Njcop2001 said...

    Just because you get some crumbs doesn’t mean the game isn’t rigged. There are players collecting massive prizes and you are happy with your crumbs. If you play often enough you realize how hard it is to place at the top of tournaments on a consistent basis no matter how much homework you do, but somehow some people have no problem doing it. I guess we all just need to build better line ups.

    Yep I’d say you do need to build better lineup’s cause I’m having no problems finishing high in tournaments. I played everyday this baseball season and if you put in the work and know how Gpp’s work you absolutely can win on a consistent basis. You’re just another example of someone who doesn’t win so they would rather think it’s rigged then admit they aren’t very good.

  • Redskins4

    @footballfplyer55567 said...

    Which means his goal is to maximize revenue for the government (or his state), while businesses prefer to avoid paying fees/taxes associated with the like that can be 20%+ of their bottom line.

    They already pay affiliates 30%+ of there bottom line, just lower affiliate fees and call it a day.

  • footballfplyer55567

    @Njcop2001 said...

    Would you prefer these sites to do whatever they want with no oversight whatsoever ?

    Who will provide valuable oversight?

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