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  • britdevine

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    We are always trying new things here at RotoGrinders, and are very excited to start offering up an easy way for you to find DFS Coaching!

    We are starting off small with trustworthy names you see and read here everyday, 2-time Million Dollar Winner Dave Potts (cheeseisgood) and myself as featured coaches with two very different offerings at both price point and specialties, and are very interested in adding other coaches if the demand is there.

    Feel free to check it out here:

    RotoGrinders Coaching Directory

    Don’t hesitate to DM either Dave or myself about our offerings or anything involved in coaching, and if you would like to become featured as a listed coach here on RotoGrinders, do not hesitate to email support@rotogrinders.com as we try to get a feel for the demand of our new coaching offering and build a list of those interested.

    Now you can finally get one on one time with some of your favorite writers and hosts here at RotoGrinders and beyond if all goes well!

    This is a trial run to see if the demand is there to make this a full time offering here at RotoGrinders, so make sure to chime in to the coaches or to support on any questions or concerns you may have.

    Thanks everyone and can’t wait to hear back!

    -Brit


    Admin Note: RotoGrinders is currently trial testing this marketing platform. We are working with two of our writers, CheeseIsGood and BritDevine, during this period to gauge if this is a service we want to continue to offer on RG. If you’re interested in either being listed as a coach, or want to give your feedback from a student or user’s perspective, then please email support{at}rotogrinders.com!

  • AgentScully

    I’m interested. AgentScully is the username. What else do I need to do?

  • eom

    I think “ trustworthy names” was an eric crain subtweet

  • AWoo

    You may want to “Define” what you can expect in these RG coaching offerings/more specifics.

  • Ross
    @AWoo said...

    You may want to “Define” what you can expect in these RG coaching offerings/more specifics.

    Click View Coaching Profile on this page for more details.

  • Ross
    @AgentScully said...

    I’m interested. AgentScully is the username. What else do I need to do?

    Hi,

    From the Coaching Page you can view the coaches, and contact them directly.

  • CheeseIsGood

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    @AWoo said...

    You may want to “Define” what you can expect in these RG coaching offerings/more specifics.

    Anyone who is interested can contact us with the specifics of what they are looking for and what we can offer. There are a couple different ways to go about doing sessions, so it can be tailored to everyones individual needs. You can send a message through the Coaching Directory page with any questions. Both Brit and I put up some info about what we offer on that page as well under the View Coaching Profile

  • Bigo1

    This is a fantastic idea. RG is the best platform to offer that service.

  • DFSProdigy

    Great idea !

  • chrispm

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    I had this idea when i first started playing but was too shy to ask any of the pros. This is so awesome!! I already sent you @CheeseIsGood a message.
    Thanks again
    Chrispm

  • MrFantasy

    While I think it’s an interesting concept being applied to DFS it’s also standard for coaches to provide graphs and winrates. That should be considered as you expand on your list of coaches.

  • petteytheft89

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    Yes I think that any coaching should be done with public graph and winrate similar to poker coaching. Problems generally arise when coaches aren’t being open about their results.

  • crazymac007

    Yes great idea “I need help builing a gpp LU”

  • ToeTagginTambo

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    I know it’s early stages, but the gap seems too wide between what is offered. Need a midstakes gpp guy for people that want to move up from the $1-$5 GPPs and play the slams and affordable qualifiers etc.

  • MRCOOKONUTS

    As long as the coaches can prove they are consistently,financially successful in DFS,then im all for it.

  • jamestriplesticks

    $75 an hour to learn about low stakes playing? makes zero sense.

  • britdevine

    • 2014 StarStreet MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    @jamestriplesticks said...

    $75 an hour to learn about low stakes playing? makes zero sense.

    Let me try to give you a better understanding of what actually goes into this

    First, most realize the value of the 3 and 5 session packages which brings the price down per hour.

    Second, The longer sessions certainly are not a fly by night offering, there is plenty of planning that goes into what I am looking to teach and help others understand, including what each specific student is really trying to accomplish there is alot more that goes into these for me at least than just showing up, doing the session and then going about my day. For every hour paid for, there is likely at least 90 minutes on my end that goes into it between skype chats, assigning homework, creating custom lessons based upon each students wants and needs, plus the fact that most sessions typically would tend to run a little long as well plus the fact you now basically have access to me near 24/7 on skype for the foreseeable future to bounce ideas off of etc.

    So for $250 you are paying for 5 hours, but in reality a good coach is putting in much more than that, likely in the 6.5-7 hour range strictly in coaching/lesson plans plus at least for me near unlimited access via chat for the foreseeable future.

    Just trying to be as honest as possible and explain things from the coach end for those that are new to this, as a former small stakes online poker coach for over a year with a solid stable of students, I certainly understand the thought that it seems like a decent chunk of change, but if you can step back and see it through the coaching end, it really is much cheaper than it appears on the surface,

  • gridironguru99

    I’d be interested in coaching if looking for a night PST guy. Pure GPP player

  • bradkansas

    Really? What percent is $75 of what you’ve lost so far.

    Bradkansas

  • BennyRamirez

    People complaining about pricing need to stop trolling. It is on the coaches to price themselves as they want. Of course, some low-mid-stakes coaching would be of value to a lot of people at lower rates, but it isn’t on us to tell coaches at which price they ought to value the time required to coach.

  • bowens1984

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    $75 an hour is like a 150K per year salary, is that what you honestly think a DFS coach should make?

    Or a 300K salary for the $150 an hour high stakes.

    Thats mind blowing pricing.

  • meerkatmreow

    @bowens1984 said...

    $75 an hour is like a 150K per year salary, is that what you honestly think a DFS coach should make?

    Or a 300K salary for the $150 an hour high stakes.

    Thats mind blowing pricing.

    More like 52-78k salary for the 75/hr and 104-156k salary for 150/hr once you factor in overhead (consulting fees tend to be 2-3x the hourly salaried rate due to things like self employment taxes, healthcare, marketing, etc. Think what the business pays to have you as an employee v what you get paid by the business)

  • Razzle11

    @britdevine said...

    Let me try to give you a better understanding of what actually goes into this

    First, most realize the value of the 3 and 5 session packages which brings the price down per hour.

    Second, The longer sessions certainly are not a fly by night offering, there is plenty of planning that goes into what I am looking to teach and help others understand, including what each specific student is really trying to accomplish there is alot more that goes into these for me at least than just showing up, doing the session and then going about my day. For every hour paid for, there is likely at least 90 minutes on my end that goes into it between skype chats, assigning homework, creating custom lessons based upon each students wants and needs, plus the fact that most sessions typically would tend to run a little long as well plus the fact you now basically have access to me near 24/7 on skype for the foreseeable future to bounce ideas off of etc.

    So for $250 you are paying for 5 hours, but in reality a good coach is putting in much more than that, likely in the 6.5-7 hour range strictly in coaching/lesson plans plus at least for me near unlimited access via chat for the foreseeable future.

    Just trying to be as honest as possible and explain things from the coach end for those that are new to this, as a former small stakes online poker coach for over a year with a solid stable of students, I certainly understand the thought that it seems like a decent chunk of change, but if you can step back and see it through the coaching end, it really is much cheaper than it appears on the surface,

    As a former mixed games poker coach myself, I couldn’t agree more with what Brit says here. There is so much that goes into coaching sessions and the availability is most definitely outside of those less than strict one hour time frames. I guarantee that when you are done, you will think the amount you paid was a bargain with what you will have learned. This comes from somebody who has never had a DFS conversation with Brit.

  • bowens1984

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    Not disputing the talents of either guy here just saying thats a big dollar amount for someone to pay, most players have a hard enough time just beating the rake.

  • tvsfrink

    The good news is the market will decide if they have overpriced their services or not.

  • pmsimkins

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    DFS has really just become a race to see who can most effectively monetize their ability (or perceived ability). As frustrating as it is, it was always bound to happen.

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