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  • AVivier

    8/1 8:00 PM EST : Denver Broncos ( -2.5 ) at Atlanta Falcons ( +2.5) – T: 34

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  • hautalak

    @BaltimoreBlitz said...

    Weird they have the punters listed as kickers.

    Maybe they added punt average or something for this game specifically lol

  • salarycapfantasy

    It is, but technically they can end up kicking FG in games as they will be active. It won’t happen very often, but it is possible. An injury or something odd and they are technically the backups. I think they also don’t want to just have 1 kicker per team on the position for kicker.

  • baseballislife93

    So which Denver back up QB gonna get most run ? Rypien or Lock

  • CleverGroom

    @baseballislife93 said...

    So which Denver back up QB gonna get most run ? Rypien or Lock

    The situation is eerily similar to BAL in the HoF game last year: Joe Flacco, a credible journeyman backup who can run, a highly drafted boom-or-bust rookie prospect, and that other guy. My guess is 2 quarters for Drew Lock, 1.5 quarters for Kevin Hogan, and 0.5 quarters for Brett Rypien (and 0 snaps for Flacco).

    My sense is Matt Schaub is still the backup in ATL, with Kurt Benkert back as a camp/practice squad arm. That means we probably see mostly Benkert in this one. I’d set the over/unders at 1.5 quarters for Schaub and 2.5 quarters for Benkert, but they could easily each get a half instead of trading during the 2nd quarter.

    The guys I’d be focused on are Hogan, Lock, and Benkert. My general approach with a game like this is 1 QB on most LUs, 0 QBs on some, and 2 QBs seldom, if at all.

  • BIF

    @AVivier said...

    I want as many matches against people playing Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco as possible lol

  • mtdurham

    @heyfeefellskee said...

    you already got head 2 heads open, you degenerate!

    so excited to be back!

    LOL who’s the bigger the degenerate the guy posting H2H’s hoping to prey on fish or the guy searching the lobby looking to snipe H2H’s posted by fish lol…….

  • mtdurham

    @baseballislife93 said...

    So which Denver back up QB gonna get most run ? Rypien or Lock

    Is it bad that when I read this i thought “Man if they had DFS for the Lingerie Football League I’d be all-in on Angela Rypien in that format”

  • BIF

    @CleverGroom said...

    The situation is eerily similar to BAL in the HoF game last year: Joe Flacco, a credible journeyman backup who can run, a highly drafted boom-or-bust rookie prospect, and that other guy. My guess is 2 quarters for Drew Lock, 1.5 quarters for Kevin Hogan, and 0.5 quarters for Brett Rypien (and 0 snaps for Flacco).

    My sense is Matt Schaub is still the backup in ATL, with Kurt Benkert back as a camp/practice squad arm. That means we probably see mostly Benkert in this one. I’d set the over/unders at 1.5 quarters for Schaub and 2.5 quarters for Benkert, but they could easily each get a half instead of trading during the 2nd quarter.

    The guys I’d be focused on are Hogan, Lock, and Benkert. My general approach with a game like this is 1 QB on most LUs, 0 QBs on some, and 2 QBs seldom, if at all.

    I don’t think Lock is ready to play that much yet – everything coming out of that camp makes me think they will bring him along slow. I could see a pretty even split from all Denver QB’s and since their backup behind Flacco is an unknown, it wouldn’t shock me to see Hogan/Lock play 1Q each and then let Rypien hand it off and throw screens for 30 minutes. We have to remember, nobody really wants to play this 5th preseason game.

    Not that last year is an indication of this year but in Denver’s preseason opener a year ago, Keenun got one series, Lynch got a couple then Chad Kelly played the balance tossing it 21 times.

  • AVivier

    https://twitter.com/jeff_legwold/status/1155971390551412737?s=21

    Broncos coach Vic Fangio said Kevin Hogan will start at quarterback in the preseason game against the Falcons with Drew Lock set to go into the game second and Brett Rypien third. Fangio said “most of the starters” won’t play in the game.

  • monarch

    Falcons D at CPT looks to be a solid move

  • AVivier

    Anyone have any insight/guess on if Falcon WR Russell Gage will get significant playing time?

  • rishipatel412

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    Do we get a list of active and inactive players from the NFL prior to lock?

  • mciama2000

    @AVivier said...

    Anyone have any insight/guess on if Falcon WR Russell Gage will get significant playing time?

    He’s been running with the one’s and the “official depth chart” has him 2nd behind Julio. Think he should get 1-2 series to start the game, don’t see them playing him much.

  • CleverGroom

    @BIF said...

    I don’t think Lock is ready to play that much yet – everything coming out of that camp makes me think they will bring him along slow. I could see a pretty even split from all Denver QB’s and since their backup behind Flacco is an unknown, it wouldn’t shock me to see Hogan/Lock play 1Q each and then let Rypien hand it off and throw screens for 30 minutes. We have to remember, nobody really wants to play this 5th preseason game.

    Not that last year is an indication of this year but in Denver’s preseason opener a year ago, Keenun got one series, Lynch got a couple then Chad Kelly played the balance tossing it 21 times.

    I honestly feel like last year’s BAL team is as good a comp as any, since DEN’s got an all-new coaching staff and QBs for 2019. The only thing I might look at for continuity in DEN is if maybe Elway had input on how they pace out the rookies this time of year.

    All of that said, I wouldn’t be shocked either if it’s a quarter apiece for Hogan and Lock, then a half for Rypien. None of the QBs are all that appealing to me. Hogan’s far and away the guy I’d like to play—Lord knows I’ve played him in regular season games before—but it’s not like there’s any Chase Daniel 2018 Preseason Week 3 smash plays jumping off the board at me.

  • CleverGroom

    @rishipatel412 said...

    Do we get a list of active and inactive players from the NFL prior to lock?

    No. IIRC, last year in Preseason Week 3 we were halfway through LAC’s first offensive series before it was reported that Melvin Gordon wasn’t even at the damn stadium.

    My advice is to religiously follow Twitter prior to lock. Work to build a list of follows that include NFL sources, news aggregators, and fantasy-specific wonks, and you should stay up to date on most stuff.

    I also have team-specific lists of beat writers that I need to update for 2019 (my philosophy is to keep it focused instead of exhaustive and shade away from paywalled content—I’ll holler when I get it sorted). Tweetdeck is also your friend. My process is to keep a pane open with each active team, then close them out as their games lock. Never know when you’re going to see a panicked report five minutes before kickoff that Herndon’s on the sidelines wearing sweatpants over an ankle the size of a cantaloupe.

  • baseballislife93

    @CleverGroom said...

    I honestly feel like last year’s BAL team is as good a comp as any, since DEN’s got an all-new coaching staff and QBs for 2019. The only thing I might look at for continuity in DEN is if maybe Elway had input on how they pace out the rookies this time of year.

    All of that said, I wouldn’t be shocked either if it’s a quarter apiece for Hogan and Lock, then a half for Rypien. None of the QBs are all that appealing to me. Hogan’s far and away the guy I’d like to play—Lord knows I’ve played him in regular season games before—but it’s not like there’s any Chase Daniel 2018 Preseason Week 3 smash plays jumping off the board at me.

    Exactly what I’m thinking Hogan lock first half then Rypien gets full 2nd half

  • mtdurham

    @CleverGroom said...

    No. IIRC, last year in Preseason Week 3 we were halfway through LAC’s first offensive series before it was reported that Melvin Gordon wasn’t even at the damn stadium.

    Reading things like that sentence make me wonder if i really wanna wager a whole bacon cheese burger on this crap….

    Well i just remembered im turning 37 next week and have no wife, kids, friends, job, or life.

    Yes… Yes i definitely do….

  • Johnnyp135

    Imagine coming in here and sharing strategies trying to get green RG thumbs ups

  • AVivier

    @CleverGroom said...

    I also have team-specific lists of beat writers that I need to update for 2019 (my philosophy is to keep it focused instead of exhaustive and shade away from paywalled content—I’ll holler when I get it sorted).

    I know I said it before, but this is a great tool and big thanks to CG for doing this. Everyone should be using this (or something similar).

  • mtdurham

    @Johnnyp135 said...

    Imagine coming in here and sharing strategies trying to get green RG thumbs ups

    LOL, I could care less about the green thumbs up, I do this strictly for the ladies.

  • AVivier

    @baseballislife93 said...

    Exactly what I’m thinking Hogan lock first half then Rypien gets full 2nd half

    We’re all just guessing, but my best guess is that Lock gets a series or two in the 3rd. Coaches sometimes like to get people used to going in and coming out of halftime.

  • CleverGroom

    @mciama2000 said...

    He’s been running with the one’s and the “official depth chart” has him 2nd behind Julio. Think he should get 1-2 series to start the game, don’t see them playing him much.

    Ridley’s already got a sore hammy, Julio’s a perpetual injury risk, and Sanu’s annual preseason resurgence won’t last. This is a team that needs a WR4 and WR5 they can count on. What worries me is that Russell Gage and Justin Hardy are so far ahead of the pack that they may not need to play.

    Last season ATL played 4 QBs and targeted 17 players(!) in the passing game during the first week of the preseason. I really like that they’re down to 2 backup QBs and almost certainly won’t start Ryan, but the targets could still be incredibly diffuse.

    I think Devin Gray is the other guy I’d consider from ATL’s WR pool. He went 4-83-0 on 5 targets (2nd on the team) at NYJ to start last preseason. He’s one of the few guys they’ve kept around for a year despite not putting him on the active roster. He might be in that sweet spot where the coaches want to see more and aren’t afraid to risk him. They gotta put somebody on the field.

    And while we’re talking about ATL players, nobody got past 6 carries last year. What I wonder is if the Preseason Week 0 format forces them to hold Devonta, Ito, and Brian Hill out entirely, concentrating the RB touches a bit more. Kenjon Barner is a very well-known NFL quantity too, and mostly there to play special teams unless I’m mistaken.

    The point is mostly that Qadree Ollison intrigues me.

    We could see more of a role for the TE in Koetter’s offense, knowing what he’s done in TB the last few years. Eric Saubert is definitely worth a look. He’s another guy whose roster spot is probably safe, but I think he’s the only ATL TE I’d consider.

  • CleverGroom

    @AVivier said...

    We’re all just guessing, but my best guess is that Lock gets a series or two in the 3rd. Coaches sometimes like to get people used to going in and coming out of halftime.

    That’s true too: sometimes you’ll see a pattern like Hogan starts and plays into Q2, Lock takes over and plays into Q3 or the end of the quarter so they can see how he handles the adjustment, and Rypien finishes.

    Of course it’s a little strange since Lock probably winds up playing an entirely different defensive lineup at that point, but there’s only so much coaches can do. Preseason, innit? Good news for Lock owners would be that he could wind up starting against the second or third string and finish against strictly roster bubble players.

  • Smallchimp

    Can we just be men and roster both defenses and all 4 kickers, please?

  • salarycapfantasy

    @mciama2000 said...

    He’s been running with the one’s and the “official depth chart” has him 2nd behind Julio. Think he should get 1-2 series to start the game, don’t see them playing him much.

    Just because someone is running with the 1’s doesn’t make them a 1. You have to estimate their real depth position and assume they play one and 2 and even some extra. Honestly, this is all pretty simple and we already know who is playing and for how long. They already had a sim game on Sun and Mon. Each day was a half of a game. Just look at those and subtract the Matt Ryan playing time and Free as well, no Julio or Ridley and other guys who are actually starters. Lineman might get a bit longer as it several new guys and rookies and they are trying to figure out who can stick and win the job. In that case they won’t keep the skilled guys out there to get killed. They will get yanked quick enough.

    DQ is all about getting time for the youngsters week one and this is pre-week one so no one has to be out there too much. You will be seeing a lot of rookies and first or second year guys in this game. The game will most likely be like 15-14 or something silly. 14-12. Offense only scored once in the second half of the sim game and defense is ahead of offense and DQ has taken over the defense this season. Focus is on making turnovers.

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