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  • squidkill

    @monarch said...

    DeMarcus Robinson has recorded double digit DK points in five of the last six games Sammy Watkins has missed this season. He just has no ceiling though.

    yeah 10 points 12 points anoint bringing down a gpp

  • thor33

    @squidkill said...

    ok so how do Browns win this? thoughts???

    Chubb has to have 20+ carries and Hunt10+ . Baker needs to play action boot all day. Ward man on Tyreek with a safety over the top . Unfortunately Cle doesn’t have a linebacker close to being able to cover Kelce so Cle needs to do what the Patriots did in the 2018 AFC championship game and come out in big nickel. KC does not run well as a team so you could get away with that style D . Also adopt that mush rush pass rush to keep Mahomes in the pocket. All easier said then done

  • Stangs13

    Cant decide on my last two spots. its between Trequan and the Saints DST vs Higgins and the Browns Dst. I have Baker, but already have two browns pass catchers.

  • NDNole

    @squidkill said...

    ok so how do Browns win this? thoughts???

    Double rb attack. Chubb and hunt break chunk plays and run the clock. Baker to Higgins for a score. It can happen.

  • NarrowJ

    CLE has to pound it run run run”

    ^^This only works if KC somehow is down 2 scores early, defense going to have to turn them over couple times for CLE to try to sit on it. I just see a 38-20 type of game where it’s “almost” a shootout but Baker and company will miss on enough 3rd downs that they can’t keep it close. He just doesn’t have the weapons to consistently convert on med-to-long 3rd downs imo. Dont see him turning it over a bunch, just not able to keep up.

  • NDNole

    @squidkill said...

    waiting for the “cleveland has to pound it” run run run

    wrong wrong wrong

    They will be crushed in a shootout via pass. My take is both rb for Cleveland smashing but not in a pound it out way. I think they can break chunk plays on KC. Game could shoot out, just in an unconventional way. It will also open up play action to Higgins who I think gets a deep ball today.

  • monarch

    @squidkill said...

    yeah 10 points 12 points anoint bringing down a gpp

    Helpful in SD though

  • NarrowJ

    Anyone have guesses on snap counts for KC WRs?

  • squidkill

    @NDNole said...

    They will be crushed 8n a shootout via pass. My take is both rb for Cleveland smashing but not in a pound it out way. I think they can break chunk plays on KC. Game could shoot oit, just in am unconventional way. It will also open up play action to Higgins who I think gets a dep ball today.

    Clev will have to score 30+ to win

  • fitz2k2

    No love for landry?

  • Theguy49503

    Im a fan of the double RB stack for Cle. Both will need to be involved if they want any type of success or want to stand a chance. The Browns aren’t going to get 4 ints like they did last week.

  • BIF

    @bazerko said...

    @BIF, do you see TB using Gronk as a blocker again this week?

    Not as much as last week but I’m still not super high on Gronk – I expect a little more target volume this week but he’ll likely need a TD to pay off.

    I only have a couple lineups and didn’t play him as I’m really high on Kelce but he does make for an interesting pivot/differentiation off all the Godwin and/or AB plays

  • BIF

    @squidkill said...

    probably no murray and Taysom for NO
    what is everyone gonna complain about if there’s no vulturing?

    Ty Monty in the backup vulture role fresh off a 100+ yard outing; that’ll tilt the masses on Kamara 😂

  • BIF

    @squidkill said...

    ok so how do Browns win this? thoughts???

    Only way I see is if Chubb gets 150+ on the ground, Baker mixes in a little play action and hits Landry/Higgins for a few chunk plays and they win turnover battle as well as TOP.

    A big ask against a team that has only lost 1 game they cared about in the past 14 months

  • BIF

    @Brendan239 said...

    Who’s the KC RB we want? I have Bell right now, but who’s out there with a 14 point lead?

    Williams is the only good running back on that team if CEH is out but I just don’t know if Andy Reid knows that. Just play Chubb as you know his volume is there.

  • monarch

    I’m looking at this from a SD perspective. Anyways the Chiefs are great at stuffing the run when they want to stuff the run. On the season they have been friendly to receiving backs. So I can see Chubb/Hunt approaching value on overall volume.

    The script I see is a quick Chiefs lead and the second half a lot of Kareem Hunt and Austin Hooper PPR friendly touches. 38-17 probably a Chiefs DST TD along the way.

  • Eyehatetodd

    @monarch said...

    DeMarcus Robinson has recorded double digit DK points in five of the last six games Sammy Watkins has missed this season. He just has no ceiling though.

    What has Hardman done in those games? I know Robinson is the one who mainly takes most of Watkins snaps when he misses, just curious on if Hardman has been more involved or not. I would think Hardman would be more of a GPP winner because of his speed alone, but we’ve seen big games out of Robinson too

  • ifthethunder

    @BIF said...

    Ty Monty in the backup vulture role fresh off a 100+ yard outing; that’ll tilt the masses on Kamara 😂

    There we go. Take a dead lineup, replace Chubb with Ty Montgomery. Now I can play Mahomes, Tyreek, and Kelce. Plus either Michael Thomas or Mike Evans and hope for a min-cash.
    ~

  • bostonfever

    @squidkill said...

    yeah 10 points 12 points anoint bringing down a gpp

    You’re going to need raw points to bring down a 2 game gpp. With DeMarcus at the price he is, that definitely would bring down a gpp lmao.

  • monarch

    @Eyehatetodd said...

    What has Hardman done in those games? I know Robinson is the one who mainly takes most of Watkins snaps when he misses, just curious on if Hardman has been more involved or not. I would think Hardman would be more of a GPP winner because of his speed alone, but we’ve seen big games out of Robinson too

    Not a whole lot. He had one 22 DK game vs the Jets other than that is has been in the low single digit range. I do have some Hardman though and some Pringle.

    I looked at the Chiefs last postseason and Mahomes put up huge totals but a LOT of that was to Damien Williams and Sammy Watkins with teams I would imagine keying in on Tyreke Hill and Travis Kelce. If that continues and I imagine it will then production should likely funnel to those ancillary receivers on the field a bit…Robinson, Hardman and Pringle along with whatever running backs are active.

  • squidkill

    @BIF said...

    Ty Monty in the backup vulture role fresh off a 100+ yard outing; that’ll tilt the masses on Kamara 😂

    yes good call or the fullback vulture

  • monarch

    If I had to choose Kelce vs Hill I probably lean Kelce from the standpoint that I can just envision Kelce eating in this spot and Hill absolutely torching Tre’Davious White over and over again in the AFC Championship game.

  • squidkill

    @bostonfever said...

    You’re going to need raw points to bring down a 2 game gpp. With DeMarcus at the price he is, that definitely would bring down a gpp lmao.

    u have sex with tube socks on fella

  • squidkill

    @monarch said...

    Not a whole lot. He had one 22 DK game vs the Jets other than that is has been in the low single digit range. I do have some Hardman though and some Pringle.

    I looked at the Chiefs last postseason and Mahomes put up huge totals but a LOT of that was to Damien Williams and Sammy Watkins with teams I would imagine keying in on Tyreke Hill and Travis Kelce. If that continues and I imagine it will then production should likely funnel to those ancillary receivers on the field a bit…Robinson, Hardman and Pringle along with whatever running backs are active.

    i just have this feeling Hardman is on the brink of an eruption. Like, they used the bye week to draw some Hardman plays. No evidence, just a gut

  • BIF

    @ifthethunder said...

    There we go. Take a dead lineup, replace Chubb with Ty Montgomery. Now I can play Mahomes, Tyreek, and Kelce. Plus either Michael Thomas or Mike Evans and hope for a min-cash.
    ~

    Whoa – I’m not advocating for Monty but if you are already dead, Kamara could get hurt in the first minute and it would be Ty Time

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