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  • bhdevault

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    Sunday, February 4th
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  • malickiville

    @superstars92 said...

    Yea the two biggest news stories I wanna know are

    1. Why did Malcolm Butler get benched?
    2. Why was Zach Ertz TD different than that of Jesse James and Dez Bryant TDs? I agree it should have been a TD, but past precedent was sort of broken there. I understand the “more steps”, but is that the only explanation?

    Brother man, without question if they had ruled this incomplete, I would have given up all hope in the NFL. Dude took at least 2, maybe 3, steps before contact and dove for the end zone. As soon as he hit the front of that line, while in the air, it’s a TD. James and Bryant were both different, but I want to be clear—-I don’t agree with those calls either. James didn’t take 2 complete steps, etc.

    Ertz play in the middle of the field would have been down by contact and NOT a fumble 100% after looking at it over and over IMO. James and Bryant I can “sort of” see how retarded the rule is and they can sway on it, but this Ertz play IMO wasn’t even close. Dude took at least 2 steps running before he was touched!!!!

  • KindGuy

    @elving188 said...

    CJ Kaltenbach
    ‏@TheSeigeDFS
    9m9 minutes ago
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    If everyone had my sources Hogan woulda been 100% owned in DFS, again you can troll all you want but this is my team and I know what’s going on

    lmao i just saw this..sources?? Cooks getting hurt??

    .

  • BIF

    @malickiville said...

    It’s all relative man. That dude putting $1M on Eagles ML is prob pocket change to him. They weren’t “heavy underdogs” btw, they were +150 to +250. They weren’t +2500 or some crazy line like +13, it was 5.5 and came down to 4.5 or 4. That is NOT a heavy dog.

    Not busting your balls, just saying, they were not big dogs. To that dude $1M is probably like $100 to you or I, OR he has a shit ton of money and still needs action. I’ve been broke as fk before and also had more money than I knew what to do with, but still needed action if it was sports, girls, etc. Doubt anyone “content” in their life would even bet to begin with hahaha

    I heard the Million dollar bet was at +155 so he won $1.55M profit plus got his Milly back

  • NoLimits0

    @elementasrat said...

    Well, you kinda answered the question yourself. Like I said before, the 5 users who won the milly tonight all multi entered. Noone in their right mind puts Duron Harmon (who?) in a single bullet.

    I bet someone can probably analyze their exposures and all of that fun stuff.. paging NoLimits again.

    Sure I can analyze that and I can send you a PM. I’ll do it tomorrow since I wanna sleep soon. It’s for the MM right? I didn’t play that just the 3 dollar but I’ll export the CSV.

  • lloydjv1

    Nice to have cashed a bit, but I admit I had both QB’s in several LU. I wouldn’t call it a successful evening, but at least came out on the positive side.Give the Eagles credit though for finally being the team that could follow through and stop the Brady train. Really good game overall, but I can’t think of a single commercial I was impressed with. Until next NFL season, time to look forward to MLB.

  • kiteman

    @superstars92 said...

    Oh 100% agree you have to be very very lucky to win GPPs. I am not disputing that. I guess my point is in the Single Game Format Mode, there is even MORE luck involved than the regular mode or NBA or golf. I’m not sure if you agree on that point or not, but I am just arguing the relative nature of the luck I guess.

    Of course you have to be lucky to win a GPP. I mean, unless this crap is rigged you are talking about getting 1st out of 150,000+ people. Those odds are just awful, and even the winner of them would likely agree.

  • superstars92

    @malickiville said...

    Brother man, without question if they had ruled this incomplete, I would have given up all hope in the NFL. Dude took at least 2, maybe 3, steps before contact and dove for the end zone. As soon as he hit the front of that line, while in the air, it’s a TD. James and Bryant were both different, but I want to be clear—-I don’t agree with those calls either. James didn’t take 2 complete steps, etc.

    Ertz play in the middle of the field would have been down by contact and NOT a fumble 100% after looking at it over and over IMO. James and Bryant I can “sort of” see how retarded the rule is and they can sway on it, but this Ertz play IMO wasn’t even close. Dude took at least 2 steps running before he was touched!!!!

    Yea you are right. He did take 3 huge strides. I guess that was the main difference. I still believe James did make a separate football move once his knee hit the ground and he stretched the ball. I also think Dez took like 2-3 steps, but I guess Ertz’s 2-3 steps were very controlled and huge strides.

    Ok just need an answer to 1. So weird what they did to Butler, who’s 100% gone now for FA.

  • superstars92

    @NoLimits0 said...

    @everyone above me: I actually am trying to work on that with a few other people here. I’m not sure if they want me to disclose their usernames but I can ask. If they give me permission I can link you to them and they’ll be able to help out even more in detail than me. It’s a project I’m working on in my side time. I’m not doing this full time though so gotta give me some time. I actually work more on that than regular DFS which I suck at haha.

    No worries just take your time. Any new information is good information and I think we are all curious to see it. Even if it’s a partial sample, that’s better than no sample. Plus enough partial samples can technically be random enough to represent an entire population.

    I’m not good enough at VBA to do that crazy stuff you are doing haha.

  • malickiville

    @BIF said...

    I heard the Million dollar bet was at +155 so he won $1.55M profit plus got his Milly back

    Of course, same if you bet $100 on +150, you pocket the $150. My point was it wasn’t some lottery play. Even +400 is not crazy for a football bet. Had this dude played $1M on a +900 type of line, I would say ballsy as fk. hahaha

  • superstars92

    @malickiville said...

    Of course, same if you bet $100 on +150, you pocket the $150. My point was it wasn’t some lottery play. Even +400 is not crazy for a football bet. Had this dude played $1M on a +900 type of line, I would say ballsy as fk. hahaha

    Well, I think it’s relative. This guy making the 1M bet probably has a net worth of 100M+.

  • elving188

    • Blogger of the Month

    @superstars92 said...

    Well, I think it’s relative. This guy making the 1M bet probably has a net worth of 100M+.

    Yep. Now he’s off to the casinos/strip clubs to dump it back. Or at least that’s what I’d do. :)

  • kiteman

    @superstars92 said...

    Well, I think it’s relative. This guy making the 1M bet probably has a net worth of 100M+.

    surprisingly, that is not true. many big bets are actually just winnings that accumulated from smaller bets and someone decided to risk them on something else. it’s like if you win $20 in a poker hand, the very next hand you are totally OK with calling $20 with a flush draw. it is relevant only because they had $1m in the first place, but to assume they had 100m and 1m was nothing to them is inaccurate in many instances.

    also, it’s really sketchy but many people still borrow from questionable bookies/brokers. that whole “where is my money or i’ll break your leg” really does happen in real life…

  • malickiville

    @superstars92 said...

    Yea you are right. He did take 3 huge strides. I guess that was the main difference. I still believe James did make a separate football move once his knee hit the ground and he stretched the ball. I also think Dez took like 2-3 steps, but I guess Ertz’s 2-3 steps were very controlled and huge strides.

    Ok just need an answer to 1. So weird what they did to Butler, who’s 100% gone now for FA.

    Dez and James as I said, I didn’t agree with the NFL and agree they were catches. The worst of all time being C Johnsons’!!!!!

    Butler makes no sense unless perhaps some behind the scenes shit went down. Butler said he has no idea either. Wonder if something went down that BB is protecting him by not saying anything??? Butler didn’t say “I don’t know WTF is wrong with these coaches”!!! He just said he didn’t know. Makes me think we will hear something. Not defending BB, glad they lost, just saying it seems odd.

  • elving188

    • Blogger of the Month

    @kiteman said...

    surprisingly, that is not true. many big bets are actually just winnings that accumulated from smaller bets and someone decided to risk them on something else. it’s like if you win $20 in a poker hand, the very next hand you are totally OK with calling $20 with a flush draw. it is relevant only because they had $1m in the first place, but to assume they had 100m and 1m was nothing to them is inaccurate in many instances.

    also, it’s really sketchy but many people still borrow from questionable bookies/brokers. that whole “where is my money or i’ll break your leg” really does happen in real life…

    WHERES OUR MONEY

  • KindGuy

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  • malickiville

    @superstars92 said...

    Well, I think it’s relative. This guy making the 1M bet probably has a net worth of 100M+.

    Of course my man. This post didn’t include my reply that it is 100% relative. OP stated dude made a $1M bet on Philly ML as a “big dog” at +150-+250 which I said is not a big dog.

    So “relative” in this case was that it wasn’t like dude made a HUGE risk on a semi-even dog. Wasn’t a huge dog or huge gamble was all I meant.

    You are correct, anyone playing $1M either has mega mills, or was trying to double up and was on drugs LOL

  • kiteman

    @elving188 said...

    WHERES OUR MONEY

    *like

  • elving188

    • Blogger of the Month

    Covers.com reported that he made a $3 million bet on the Eagles at the MGM, their second-largest Super Bowl wager ever. It was not specified if it was on the point spread or moneyline.

    William Hill U.S. was the second sportsbook to report taking a $1 million bet on the Eagles from Bettor X. Director of trading Nick Bogdanovich said his book accepted a $1 million money-line bet on Philadelphia at plus-165 odds.

    Sportsbook operator CG Technology and the South Point both took six-figure money-line wagers on the Eagles for $700,000 and $500,000, respectively, from him. A source told ESPN’s David Purdum that Bettor X put down an additional $500,000 on the Eagles moneyline.

    Supposedly going home +6M

  • AVivier

    @superstars92 said...

    Yea the two biggest news stories I wanna know are

    1. Why did Malcolm Butler get benched?
    2. Why was Zach Ertz TD different than that of Jesse James and Dez Bryant TDs? I agree it should have been a TD, but past precedent was sort of broken there. I understand the “more steps”, but is that the only explanation?

    He caught the the ball just inside the 6 yard line, and “fumbled” at about 1 yard inside the endzone, at no point bobbling the ball until the end. That’s about 7 yards, or 21 feet, he turned and ran with the ball. 21 feet is a long distance!

  • 49noobers

    @elementasrat said...

    Apparently the guy who went on that crazy heater during the world series is the same person who bet millions on Eagles ML tonight at various sports books in Vegas. Crazy stuff. Known as Bettor X.

    Proof he is a time traveler from future. :P

  • malickiville

    @kiteman said...

    surprisingly, that is not true. many big bets are actually just winnings that accumulated from smaller bets and someone decided to risk them on something else. it’s like if you win $20 in a poker hand, the very next hand you are totally OK with calling $20 with a flush draw. it is relevant only because they had $1m in the first place, but to assume they had 100m and 1m was nothing to them is inaccurate in many instances.

    also, it’s really sketchy but many people still borrow from questionable bookies/brokers. that whole “where is my money or i’ll break your leg” really does happen in real life…

    Yeah, so dude made a $1M bet in Vegas on “credit”? Or he was able to borrow that much on credit? I’ve been around gambling and books for years and years man but you are out of your mind if you think dude made a $1M bet on borrowed money.

    I “get” the fair chance he had $1M, and tried to double up (which would be FKN RETARDED!!) but I can see them having $5M and throwing down $1M.

    as for the whole “break your leg” thing, ummm, those days are long gone. Some dudes will kill your ass, and others will pay dudes to kill your ass, but they ain’t beating you down expecting money w/o knowing they are also going down at some point. Technology and social media has kept many many “secrets” much less secret.

  • kiteman

    i want to know the butler story as well. i had him in my LU, and while i still cashed, it was shady even to the announcers as to why he was benched. bizarre as heck. i stated earlier it must have been an argument with the coaching staff, but that’s only a guess.

  • b0wshankb

    Agreed, I just had Foles and cashed out 1k. Just 6 points away from tying 7 for 1st alone. Wish I took Harmon vs Bradham.

  • kiteman

    @malickiville said...

    Yeah, so dude made a $1M bet in Vegas on “credit”? Or he was able to borrow that much on credit? I’ve been around gambling and books for years and years man but you are out of your mind if you think dude made a $1M bet on borrowed money.

    I “get” the fair chance he had $1M, and tried to double up (which would be FKN RETARDED!!) but I can see them having $5M and throwing down $1M.

    as for the whole “break your leg” thing, ummm, those days are long gone. Some dudes will kill your ass, and others will pay dudes to kill your ass, but they ain’t beating you down expecting money w/o knowing they are also going down at some point. Technology and social media has kept many many “secrets” much less secret.

    good points. i just assumed some people are degenerate gamblers and eventually they wind up owing something to someone, and they also/or end up making really crazy bets hoping to get square. may not, and likely is not, this particular guy, but just in general assuming someone that bets a wild bet of 1m isn’t a billionaire necessarily, but perhaps in different circumstances entirely.

    also, that is all really scary lol. can we go back to talking about how awesome foles was? haha

  • FunkMac

    The Philadelphia Eagles are Super Bowl Champions. I’ve waited all my life for that. So awesome! Made a decent profit too. Had multiple Brady/Gronk/Foles/Clement lineups. Just couldn’t get those crazy Def dart throws right. Oh well. What a night!

    And hey Squid, I guess it was the end after all. ;) Such a fitting end to their dynasty. Losing to a backup qb. Coming full circle, baby.

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