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  • bhdevault

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    6:30 PM EST : New England ( -2.5 ) at LA Rams ( 2.5 ) —- T: 56

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  • squidkill

    @JH822547 said...

    Rams D for all the monies, Brady finally gets exposed.

    You couldn’t be more off. It’s not about Brady. This runngame and defense are a wagon. Goff and the rams get exposed

  • ripking

    Gronk last game td . Hogan 60 yard bomb. Reynolds hugest scoring rams receiver

  • mike42

    @squidkill said...

    I am saying this now. This game will not be close. Just a gut feeling here. This the Pats roll. And they NEVER roll in Super Bowls. This team is different. This team is really feeding off of this narrative and are looking destroy the haters. Team shocked me as well. They flipped a switch at some point late. Goff is not ready for this stage. Maybe I should be more nervous. But I’m not this time 🤷‍♂️

    I see why u think that but I don’t think u guys win this easily, I think u actually have to play from behind. Those 2 first halves you guys outsmarted Reid/Sutton/A Lynn and just dominated early as a result. I don’t think u outsmart Wade/McVey early, I think this game comes down to Brady having a big/good game because I also don’t think your power run game matches up well Vs the Rams on turf. Suh playing like an all pro during the playoffs and coupled with Donald on the middle of that D I’m buying the 2.4 yds a carry that D gave up Vs 2 good/elite run games.

    I don’t think you guys coast in this one and it’s why u didn’t last year, your playing against coaches the last 2 years that you can’t just outsmart. Peterson and McVey are made up of the same stuff BB is. Half your postseason success can be attributed to the stupidity of opposing coaches and you can’t rely on that this year.

    I also think the athletic disadvantage NE is facing will be prevalent when you watch this game. Lot of great athletes lining up against so so athletes. I think Brady has to win this in the 4th. Hopefully he doesn’t get tendinitis. Very common for men his age.

  • mtdurham

    @Dunzor said...

    The stadium won’t be full of Atlanta residents,

    Atlanta residents dont even attend Falcons, Hawks, Predators, or Braves games…. so yeah expecting them to attend the Super Bowl seems like a stretch to me too

  • squidkill

    @mike42 said...

    I see why u think that but I don’t think u guys win this easily, I think u actually have to play from behind. Those 2 first halves you guys outsmarted Reid/Sutton/A Lynn and just dominated early as a result. I don’t think u outsmart Wade/McVey early, I think this game comes down to Brady having a big/good game because I also don’t think your power run game matches up well Vs the Rams on turf. Suh playing like an all pro during the playoffs and coupled with Donald on the middle of that D I’m buying the 2.4 yds a carry that D gave up Vs 2 good/elite run games.

    I don’t think you guys coast in this one and it’s why u didn’t last year, your playing against coaches the last 2 years that you can’t just outsmart. Peterson and McVey are made up of the same stuff BB is. Half your postseason success can be attributed to the stupidity of opposing coaches and you can’t rely on that this year.

    I also think the athletic disadvantage NE is facing will be prevalent when you watch this game. Lot of great athletes lining up against so so athletes. I think Brady has to win this in the 4th. Hopefully he doesn’t get tendinitis. Very common for men his age.

    Son of bum is a concern. Those Denver defenses caused problems vs pats
    I’m not sold on Mcvay, lots of hype and hair gel. My mom and aunt both have tendinitis. Pats by a million. 🤘

  • djjoeyg

    Does BB double cooks like they did Hill last week? They know cooks speed and they cant stay man to man with him. I think we see more Reynolds and Everett on sunday and I think BB is just fine with that. I still don’t know what to think about Gurley. if we are being honest, he didn’t pass the eye test last week. Everyone keeps saying he is fine…which normally means he isn’t. It is not like the coach is going to tell us and the pats his knee needs a scope or something. As the week has moved along im starting to make line ups with no backs or only white or rex in them. CJ is not a pass catching back..and if Gurley looks like last week Gurley he is not startable.This game does not set up well for Sony but he will be heavily owned. Last week they played the worse run defense but not this week. LA has limited the cowboys and saints to a combined 98 rushing yrds. I think this will be a huge Brady game. If they win they’ll match the Steelers for most Lombardi Trophies won (6).and Brady can become the first player to win six rings, breaking his tie with Hall of Famer Charles Haley. I say Brady at captain where he belongs and I would not be surprised if Rex leads all back in fantasy points. I think BB likes Rex because its easier to disguise run/pass with him as he is not so one dimensional like sony or white…..this is all assuming LA can stay with them. We saw that the last quarter vs the Chiefs. If the pats get up 2 on them though then that goes right out the window but I think LA comes to play.

  • mike42

    @squidkill said...

    Son of bum is a concern. Those Denver defenses caused problems vs pats
    I’m not sold on Mcvay, lots of hype and hair gel. My mom and aunt both have tendinitis. Pats by a million. 🤘

    Do you think they put Gilmore on Woods in the slot? What did they do with K. Allen when they played him? I’ve heard double Cooks, Gilmore on Woods but idk how much slot Gilmore plays.

  • joephoto

    https://youtu.be/h2qoMwW7fQE

    Not sure if this link works here, but it is the 1966 Boston Patriots Highlight film, they played at Fenway Park,
    given to me by the late Jim Nance, I posted it with my youtube.com public access stuff.

    I think the 1st game I went to was 1967, they played at Harvard Stadium.

  • Dunzor

    @mike42 said...

    Do you think they put Gilmore on Woods in the slot? What did they do with K. Allen when they played him? I’ve heard double Cooks, Gilmore on Woods but idk how much slot Gilmore plays.

    I thought Reynolds was the slot receiver with Kupp out and Woods & Cooks played the outside?

  • squidkill

    @mike42 said...

    Do you think they put Gilmore on Woods in the slot? What did they do with K. Allen when they played him? I’ve heard double Cooks, Gilmore on Woods but idk how much slot Gilmore plays.

    Only Tuesday son. Haven’t dug that deep yet. Probably gonna put one of their speed CB s on COOKS. K Crossen /jc Jackson/johnathan Jones with safety over top similar to how they covered tyfluke

  • JaBr

    @squidkill said...

    Only Tuesday son. Haven’t dug that deep yet. Probably gonna put one of their speed CB s on COOKS. K Crossen /jc Jackson/johnathan Jones with safety over top similar to how they covered tyfluke

    Agreed, I think that’s how they have to play Cooks because their #2 CB isn’t good enough on his own and Cooks is too fast.
    Gilmore on Woods I like, even though Gilmore isn’t typically a slot CB, but seems to go wherever and will play anyone 1-on-1.

    Not saying I’m confident or talking any trash, but some people are talking about the Rams skill players like they’re worlds better than the Chiefs’.
    For the Patriots to win, they need to keep scoring and play solid D. The Rams D I find tough to trust having them give up huge plays and just play awful. Their offense has bailed them out a lot, kind of like KC. Patriots cannot let that happen… obviously, haha.

  • mike42

    @Dunzor said...

    I thought Reynolds was the slot receiver with Kupp out and Woods & Cooks played the outside?

    Woods has been the main slot guy since Kupp went out.

  • shades

    Well,McVay says Gurley will play a lot… Going to just use him in 50% of lineups because we won’t know for sure.
    Rotoworld:
    Rams coach Sean McVay said Todd Gurley will “be a big part of this game.”
    Gurley touched the ball just five times in the NFC Championship game. He blamed being “sorry as hell” and not his knee for the limited workload, but it is difficult to believe his lingering left knee injury was not a contributing factor. With another two weeks to heal, Gurley should be ready for a bigger role this Sunday, especially considering how the Patriots have struggled at times to cover running backs in the passing game.

  • mike42

    @JaBr said...

    Agreed, I think that’s how they have to play Cooks because their #2 CB isn’t good enough on his own and Cooks is too fast.
    Gilmore on Woods I like, even though Gilmore isn’t typically a slot CB, but seems to go wherever and will play anyone 1-on-1.

    Not saying I’m confident or talking any trash, but some people are talking about the Rams skill players like they’re worlds better than the Chiefs’.
    For the Patriots to win, they need to keep scoring and play solid D. The Rams D I find tough to trust having them give up huge plays and just play awful. Their offense has bailed them out a lot, kind of like KC. Patriots cannot let that happen… obviously, haha.

    I don’t think the Rams WR’s are world beaters, I think Gurley/Everett pose the biggest matchup problems for NE. I also think that Rams D that is loaded with first round type talent has legitimately begun to play welll together and has a veteran presence which is also important.

    I bet NE for the game but I’m taking LA early, I don’t think NE controls the game throughout. Basically just think that a well coached, athletic and veteran team shows up early and isn’t forced to air it out the whole game. For DFS, game script matters more then who covers. If NE starts the way it did the last 2 games, LA is in serious trouble because Goff isn’t the bring your team back type of QB. I can’t ever remember him leading a comeback . It’s just rare for any team to come out firing 3 games in a row in the playoffs.

    Last week I said I liked NO’s early to show up because they didn’t the week before. For this game, I like LA to show up early in part because they didn’t last week. NE has a strong secondary but is slow at LB/S, think that’s where u see LA attack early in this one. Gurley screens and option routes, Everett down the seam, etc.,.

  • djjoeyg

    Sean McVay said Todd Gurley will “be a big part of this game.”


  • Messiah717

    If you saw what Williams did in the second half against the Pats in the second half the Rams would be foolish not to feature Gurley heavily.

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  • squidkill

    @Messiah717 said...

    If you saw what Williams did in the second half against the Pats in the second half the Rams would be foolish not to feature Gurley heavily.

    Whoah be very careful here man. As you know, game plans greatly differ from opponent to opponent. You can’t just say because Williams had some success that means gurley will. Pats main focus was shutting down kelce and hill which leads to d Williams being the prime benefactor. Not sure they will be focusing heavy on shutting down any particular 2 or even 1 player. Two very different game plans with 2 weeks to dissect.

  • djjoeyg

    I think Gurley is in a great spot from a pass catching perspective, I just don’t know if he is going to look like last week Gurley or pre injury Gurley. Feels like you need exposure to him but I am doing about half my line ups without him.

  • Messiah717

    @squidkill said...

    Whoah be very careful here man. As you know, game plans greatly differ from opponent to opponent. You can’t just say because Williams had some success that means gurley will. Pats main focus was shutting down kelce and hill which leads to d Williams being the prime benefactor. Not sure they will be focusing heavy on shutting down any particular 2 or even 1 player. Two very different game plans with 2 weeks to dissect.

    I’m not saying he will automatically have a huge game but I just don’t see this matchup setting up as a CJ Anderson game.

  • Messiah717

    @djjoeyg said...

    I think Gurley is in a great spot from a pass catching perspective, I just don’t know if he is going to look like last week Gurley or pre injury Gurley. Feels like you need exposure to him but I am doing about half my line ups without him.

    I don’t think injury had anything to do with it. His poor play at the start earned him a spot on the bench. I mean the week prior he played well including a long TD run where he looked fine.

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  • JaBr

    @mike42 said...

    I don’t think the Rams WR’s are world beaters, I think Gurley/Everett pose the biggest matchup problems for NE. I also think that Rams D that is loaded with first round type talent has legitimately begun to play welll together and has a veteran presence which is also important.

    I bet NE for the game but I’m taking LA early, I don’t think NE controls the game throughout. Basically just think that a well coached, athletic and veteran team shows up early and isn’t forced to air it out the whole game. For DFS, game script matters more then who covers. If NE starts the way it did the last 2 games, LA is in serious trouble because Goff isn’t the bring your team back type of QB. I can’t ever remember him leading a comeback . It’s just rare for any team to come out firing 3 games in a row in the playoffs.

    Last week I said I liked NO’s early to show up because they didn’t the week before. For this game, I like LA to show up early in part because they didn’t last week. NE has a strong secondary but is slow at LB/S, think that’s where u see LA attack early in this one. Gurley screens and option routes, Everett down the seam, etc.,.

    I am speaking as a fan, wanting the Patriots to win, not talking DFS in my initial analysis.
    DFS-wise, Gurley poses the biggest mismatch for the Patriots D. I saw a couple people mention they thought Gurley looked OK 2 games ago, I disagree. Sorry, but you don’t bench your most explosive offensive player for 2 dropped passes. Maybe the time off has allowed the knee to heal, but I wouldn’t be shocked if that were not the case. CJ Anderson poses much less threat since he’s not nearly as quick or as sure-handed. I am a lot less worried about the Patriots’ lack of speed on D vs. Anderson than Gurley.

    IMO, Chung or McCourty can handle Everett a lot better than they could handle Kelce. I wouldn’t think they’ll use McCourty on Everett though.
    Gilmore on Woods
    JC Jackson + Harmon on Cooks (bracketed/double most plays)
    Everett gets the other/3rd Safety – Chung or Harmon
    Reynolds covered by J. McCourty or Jones
    Maybe they use D. McCourty as a spy on Gurley out of the backfield? I’m not sure.

    IMO, KC has better weapons with LA missing Kupp.

    Hill, Kelce, Watkins & Williams
    vs
    Gurley, Cooks & Woods

  • JaBr

    @Messiah717 said...

    I don’t think injury had anything to do with it. His poor play at the start earned him a spot on the bench. I mean the week prior he played well including a long TD run where he looked fine.

    I watched the game and felt differently. I wanted Gurley to be a beast (used him everywhere in DFS) and he put up OK stats, but he did not look as fast or shifty as he normally does. CJ Anderson actually looked like the better back against the Cowboys. I did not see the game last week though, so maybe he looked better? Still doesn’t explain the ‘benching’ though. A coach wouldn’t bench his best and highest-paid player for 2 drops.

  • mike42

    @squidkill said...

    Whoah be very careful here man. As you know, game plans greatly differ from opponent to opponent. You can’t just say because Williams had some success that means gurley will. Pats main focus was shutting down kelce and hill which leads to d Williams being the prime benefactor. Not sure they will be focusing heavy on shutting down any particular 2 or even 1 player. Two very different game plans with 2 weeks to dissect.

    Look, you can’t double up a rb. It’s one of the things that makes White soo effective and seemingly impossible to defend at times.

    BB could go nickel or dime and use a cb to cover Gurley but LA has an elite O-line and that would leave NE more susceptible to runs.
    You can chip RB’s out of the backfield but it slows down the rush. It wouldn’t surprise me if BB used a mixture of both strategies but the kid hasn’t done squat lately so it’s a little less likely that he commands constant attention from go.

    I think he gets 15-17 plus rushes and 6 plus tgts and a lot of those tgts are going to be with LB’s on him that are poor in coverage. I’d guess that BB focuses on stopping the run and makes Goff beat him but that’s still an Elite RB/O-line Combo playing on a fast track Vs a slow D. Also, it’s not like you can just stack the box Vs LA, they got weapons and a genius/good/great play caller. The most like scenario I think is Gurley getting 20 plus ppr friendly touches and him making enough plays to be a must and possibly the top scorer because he’s Gurley.

    If tendinitis was really an issue it would be flaring up during practice and in all likelihood he would be sitting out on occasion. Has he been sitting out practices? You can draw a pretty direct line there. If rest was needed and that’s what worked for BIF’s middle class risk they would be giving it to Gurley’s world class knee.

    I’m always looking for bounce back spots and this screams it. I haven’t noticed any physical limitations, he literally dropped the ball (2x) and got benched. I told people to fade him before the playoffs started because I questioned his heart and toughness which played out but that dude got humbled and I’m going to lock in the guy with highest ceiling to bounce back as most great athletes do after getting humbled.

    I’m not watching a lot of coverage but you should hear his teammates talking about how hard he’s practicing and “eye of the tiger” kind of stuff and IMHO you should buy it.

    Gurley+LA O-line+ fast track> NE’s front 7

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