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  • bhdevault

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    Thursday, September 24th
    8:20 PM EST : Miami ( 3 ) at Jacksonville ( -3 ) —- T: 45

    Sunday, September 27th
    1:00 PM EST : Tennessee ( -1.5 ) at Minnesota ( 1.5 ) —- T: 45.5
    1:00 PM EST : San Francisco ( -4 ) at NY Giants ( 4 ) —- T: 42.5
    1:00 PM EST : Chicago ( 3 ) at Atlanta ( -3 ) —- T: 47
    1:00 PM EST : Houston ( 5 ) at Pittsburgh ( -5 ) —- T: 45
    1:00 PM EST : Washington ( 6.5 ) at Cleveland ( -6.5 ) —- T: 44.5
    1:00 PM EST : Las Vegas ( 6.5 ) at New England ( -6.5 ) —- T: —
    1:00 PM EST : LA Rams ( 2.5 ) at Buffalo ( -2.5 ) —- T: 46.5
    1:00 PM EST : Cincinnati ( 6.5 ) at Philadelphia ( -6.5 ) —- T: 46
    4:05 PM EST : NY Jets ( 9.5 ) at Indianapolis ( -9.5 ) —- T: 44
    4:05 PM EST : Carolina ( 6 ) at LA Chargers ( -6 ) —- T: —
    4:25 PM EST : Detroit ( 6 ) at Arizona ( -6 ) —- T: 53
    4:25 PM EST : Tampa Bay ( -6 ) at Denver ( 6 ) —- T: 43.5
    4:25 PM EST : Dallas ( 3.5 ) at Seattle ( -3.5 ) —- T: —
    8:20 PM EST : Green Bay ( 4 ) at New Orleans ( -4 ) —- T: —

    Monday, September 28th
    8:15 PM EST : Kansas City ( 3 ) at Baltimore ( -3 ) —- T: 52.5

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  • wilks3579

    @winnerchickendinner said...

    This week probably comes down to just finding the right combination of running backs. Got core guys for the WR/TE spots just going to rotate the backs with them. Also naked QB looks good this week.

    I usually end up with 3 RB’s in my lineups but this week I’m pretty sure it will be 4 WR’s to get a lineup that is a little more unique. I think with not really having to pay up at any of the positions most builds will include 3 high touch RB’s

    EDIT: I might be damn close to 100% DJ Moore this weekend…

  • Lbb11

    Last week someone posted a receiver corner back side of the field chart. Anyone have it for week 3? Thx!

  • thedkexperience

    I’ve been terrible for 2 weeks.

    Cardinals stack! Let’s do this.

  • beare

    mckinnon or wilson which for flex

  • NDNole

    @beare said...

    mckinnon or wilson which for flex

    Mckinnon and its not even close.

  • HoodsFromTheWood

    @NDNole said...

    Mckinnon and its not even close.

    I think Wilson out touches McKinnon

  • 33BeRad

    @thedkexperience said...

    I’ve been terrible for 2 weeks.

    Cardinals stack! Let’s do this.

    Doesn’t Detroit limit rushing QB’s? I thought i read they play a lot of zone against rushing QB’s to limit their rushing.

  • Njsum1

    @33BeRad said...

    Ok, how about Dak and Cousins. I know Dak played the Rams week 1 and Atl week 2 but we only have 2 weeks to go off so cut me some slack. HAHA! Cousins did horrific against Indy and did well against GB, not great but much better than his away game. Lamar didn’t play as well on the road and it couldn’t have been Houston’s def. HAHA!

    Haha…I’m not saying homefield isn’t a thing at all, just thinking it’s less of a thing as the crowd noise can’t make it difficult on the offense to change the play at the line of scrimmage.

    The piped in noise doesn’t get real loud. Like 70 decibels is what I’ve heard, whereas in Seattle, for example, with a crowd it can get close to 140 decibels.

  • thedkexperience

    @33BeRad said...

    Doesn’t Detroit limit rushing QB’s? I thought i read they play a lot of zone against rushing QB’s to limit their rushing.

    Probably. My theory this week was to set my lineup and not listen or read anything. Back to basics! Or something.

  • HoodsFromTheWood

    @Njsum1 said...

    Haha…I’m not saying homefield isn’t a thing at all, just thinking it’s less of a thing as the crowd noise can’t make it difficult on the offense to change the play at the line of scrimmage.

    The piped in noise doesn’t get real loud. Like 70 decibels is what I’ve heard, whereas in Seattle, for example, with a crowd it can get close to 140 decibels.

    Sportsbooks haven’t yet caught on that the scoring environments in the NFL’s COVID era may be a bit better than models/data suggest – This may potentially change as the season progresses, but it’s reasonable to assume that the lack of fans and overall stadium noise may be a bit more conducive to Away Team scoring, which in turn would inherently enhance the scoring environment for the Home Team as well.

  • rvnfn77

    @thehazyone said...

    Usually Saturday afternoon. I don’t start compiling that until Saturday am. Too much changes between now and then.

    It sure was good info and thanks by the way.

  • TopDawgs07

    You guys should follow Hazy on Twitter, he tweets his POWN every week…..

  • HoodsFromTheWood

    @thedkexperience said...

    Cardinals stack! Let’s do this.

    Vegas would agree with you, Cards projected to score 30. They’re big time pushing the pace this year and playing a D that’s given up 27 points to a mediocre Bear O and 36 to the Pack. You’re a go with your gut guy. Go with it!! WCGW?

  • BIF

    @33BeRad said...

    Doesn’t Detroit limit rushing QB’s? I thought i read they play a lot of zone against rushing QB’s to limit their rushing.

    Drake is going to smash this week as Detroit tries to contain Nuke and Kyler – can see him hitting the end zone a couple times with one he’s taking a screen or dump off on a QB scramble to the house.

  • 49noobers

    Sorry don’t generally ask season long questions here but this is tricky. Would you give away Juju and Ronald Jones for Akers and diggs?

  • BIF

    @hoods_from_the_wood said...

    I think Wilson out touches McKinnon

    I’m leaning that way as well – you see it all the time where the 3rd down back has a good game filling in for an in-game injury to RB1 (or RB2). That is because he is the most prepared backup remaining for THAT game.

    Last week the Niners lost RB1 Mostert AND RB2 Coleman to injury so McKinnon got asked to step up as Wilson was not supposed to be in that game for more than a play or two or special teams. As a result Wilson didn’t see the ball very much.

    Now with a week to prepare, Wilson better fits the RB1 type of workload than McKinnon who has always been a 3rd down or change of pace back his whole career.

    I could see up to a 50-50 split overall but I don’t see McKinnon dominating the touches. McKinnon should get 70-80% of the RB targets for sure but I think only 30-40% of the carries and less than a third of the goalline work.

    Both are probably playable – going to depend on who hits the box for a score or two. Easier to predict a goalline TD run by Wilson than a RB catch for a TD so I’m leaning Wilson.

  • BIF

    @49noobers said...

    Sorry don’t generally ask season long questions here but this is tricky. Would you give away Juju and Ronald Jones for Akers and diggs?

    I personally wouldn’t trade away Juju for Diggs – the RBs are probably a wash. RoJo’s role will diminish a bit but he’ll still get at least 25% of the carries. Akers role should increase a bit but it’s a 3-way committee there too.

    Diggs would be overvalued on the trade market after 2 big games – JuJu will eat soon too.

  • Njsum1

    @hoods_from_the_wood said...

    Sportsbooks haven’t yet caught on that the scoring environments in the NFL’s COVID era may be a bit better than models/data suggest – This may potentially change as the season progresses, but it’s reasonable to assume that the lack of fans and overall stadium noise may be a bit more conducive to Away Team scoring, which in turn would inherently enhance the scoring environment for the Home Team as well.

    Take the OVER!!! Haha

  • HoodsFromTheWood

    @BIF said...

    Now with a week to prepare, Wilson better fits the RB1 type of workload than McKinnon who has always been a 3rd down or change of pace back his whole career.

    I could see up to a 50-50 split overall but I don’t see McKinnon dominating the touches. McKinnon should get 70-80% of the RB targets for sure but I think only 30-40% of the carries and less than a third of the goalline work.

    Both are probably playable – going to depend on who hits the box for a score or two. Easier to predict a goalline TD run by Wilson than a RB catch for a TD so I’m leaning Wilson.

    Factor in Shanny’s hatred for the turf and McKinnons ACL surgery

  • Njsum1

    @NDNole said...

    Mckinnon and its not even close.

    I really like McKinnon, yet I saw a blurb on rotoworld, that the Sanfran Chronicle believes JWJ Could see the most action on Sunday. That’s a bit concerning.

  • HoodsFromTheWood

    @Njsum1 said...

    Take the OVER!!! Haha

    Lol never dead when you do… Till the final whistle. Besides scoring wise, seems to me sacks and TO’s are down a wee bit thru the first 2 weeks. Maybe road teams hearing signals better etc leads to more efficient offensive production?

  • Kagresto919

    I think Derrick Henry might be my favorite GPP play of the week… so many RB’s I love this week though, going to be tough to get the exposure I want to all of them.

  • infantryboys

    @BIF said...

    I’m leaning that way as well – you see it all the time where the 3rd down back has a good game filling in for an in-game injury to RB1 (or RB2). That is because he is the most prepared backup remaining for THAT game.

    Last week the Niners lost RB1 Mostert AND RB2 Coleman to injury so McKinnon got asked to step up as Wilson was not supposed to be in that game for more than a play or two or special teams. As a result Wilson didn’t see the ball very much.

    Now with a week to prepare, Wilson better fits the RB1 type of workload than McKinnon who has always been a 3rd down or change of pace back his whole career.

    I could see up to a 50-50 split overall but I don’t see McKinnon dominating the touches. McKinnon should get 70-80% of the RB targets for sure but I think only 30-40% of the carries and less than a third of the goalline work.

    Both are probably playable – going to depend on who hits the box for a score or two. Easier to predict a goalline TD run by Wilson than a RB catch for a TD so I’m leaning Wilson.

    Beat writer for the 49ers seems to agree with you, BIF.

    https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Jerick-McKinnon-Jeff-Wilson-are-now-49ers-lead-15584876.php

    Jerick McKinnon, who caught a touchdown pass in week one versus the Arizona Cardinals and ran for a touchdown against the Jets, is the “veteran” of the new running back platoon, though at 5-feet-9 inches, he’s not necessarily known as an every-down option. His career-high in carries for a season is 159 in 2016, when he was a member of the Minnesota Vikings. Most crucially, he’s still working back into game shape, after missing all of 2018 and 2019 with a torn ACL. He has just six rushing attempts and three receptions in 2020.

    The next man up is 24-year-old Jeff Wilson, who has two carries and three catches this season. He’s had a bit role with the 49ers since 2018, but could actually get the most action this coming Sunday.

  • 33BeRad

    @thedkexperience said...

    I’ve been terrible for 2 weeks.

    Cardinals stack! Let’s do this.

    Just go with the GOAT Russ and both his receivers.

  • thedkexperience

    @BIF said...

    Drake is going to smash this week as Detroit tries to contain Nuke and Kyler – can see him hitting the end zone a couple times with one he’s taking a screen or dump off on a QB scramble to the house.

    My initial build has Kyler, Drake and Hopkins. I feel pretty confident they can each eat.

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