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  • mcb13100

    Riviera is a fairly long course that tends to favor players that have a natural power fade. With that said, off the top of my head I know that JB Holmes and Gary Woodland are bombers that fade the ball. Anybody else know of other players that fit that mold?

  • MGoBlue06

    Where is the best place to look up golf stats other than RG? I am trying to get into doing my own research instead of just reading other people picks and listening to pod casts.

  • JAYMONEY

    @MGoBlue06 said...

    Where is the best place to look up golf stats other than RG? I am trying to get into doing my own research instead of just reading other people picks and listening to pod casts.

    PGAtour.com. They have all the stats you need.

  • Dewoc19

    @10Beers said...

    are you on the right course regarding him? Including 2010 he’s posted no better than 61st place and has missed the cut 4/6 times.

    maybe i was looking at the wrong course then, where did you find that info?

  • amanuel777

    @Dewoc19 said...

    maybe i was looking at the wrong course then, where did you find that info?

    I would guess here:

    https://rotogrinders.com/articles/pga-first-look-northern-trust-open-1168800

  • Dewoc19

    @amanuel777 said...

    I would guess here:

    https://rotogrinders.com/articles/pga-first-look-northern-trust-open-1168800

    oh wow, i didnt even know about that…. i take back everything nice i said about CH3 and this tournament after seeing this. Thanks for this

  • lincolnduff

    @tprokopenko said...

    Bubba at $10400 looks enticing

    May be wrong, but Bubba’s strength is a fade off the tee… This would seem to go against his natural strength, but he is a past champion so he figured something out. Although I believe they have made some course changes since he won, including a couple tee boxes that now require a left to right shot off the tee instead of straight or even right to left. Plus Bubba is a whiny bitch, if were looking for a non technical reason not to play him haha.

  • lincolnduff

    Also, considering this course is long and tight, I’m guessing it’ll be best to focus on players that excel with long irons, proximity to hole from 200ish. Or maybe more importantly fade players who don’t excel in that. Putting I think will be less important this week, as the Poa greens tend to bounce and should slightly level the advantage of the great putters.

  • MrSnuffleupagus

    You would think Kuchar would be a beast here as his best shot is a fade and seems like the majority of holes here set up for him.

    Avoid bubba till florida

  • MrSnuffleupagus

    @MGoBlue06 said...

    Where is the best place to look up golf stats other than RG? I am trying to get into doing my own research instead of just reading other people picks and listening to pod casts.

    Golfstats.com is what i use besides pgatour.com

  • Dewoc19

    im gonna throw a name out here…. Vijay Singh. And let the criticism begin

  • TJRhodes

    @Dewoc19 said...

    im gonna throw a name out here…. Vijay Singh. And let the criticism begin

    Not a bad punt for the price, but he burned me last week looking very similar to this week, so tread lightly.

  • BIF

    @lincolnduff said...

    Putting I think will be less important this week, as the Poa greens tend to bounce and should slightly level the advantage of the great putters.

    While I generally agree about the Poa comment, Riviera’s greens are not primarily Poa (like Pebble) as they are a bent-mix and as a ultra-private club it does not see the public play that Pebble does which would typically bring more Poa transfer into the green complexes. I don’t recall many complaints about bumpiness in the past; small greens-tough pins and narrow fairways usually trump bad greens comments.

    I also think a key stat for this week is putting – Riviera typically ranks #1 in most missed putts inside 3ft and also at the top in lowest made % inside 10 feet. So I guess there are two ways to look at that; do good putters have an advantage as lots of putts get missed or is there no advantage to them as they’ll miss too ?

    I think good short putters will do better than average or poor putters – also the greens are very firm and fast this week (at least they were Monday) so if the chance of rain on Wed doesn’t happen, they’ll be very difficult to putt on. I personally would rather have a good putter this week over a poor one.

    I should also add that Riviera’s toughness is its par 4’s; that is also a key scoring stat which of course favors the best ball-strikers (there are stats for that as well).

  • amanuel777

    @lincolnduff said...

    Plus Bubba is a whiny bitch, if were looking for a non technical reason not to play him haha.

    Hahaha, he is a big whiny one, and I just can’t stand how he treats his caddie when he gets into his whiny bitch moods. But on the other hand, he is one of the most creative guys out there, who doesn’t really care too much about what common wisdom says. Remember his fist Masters?

  • smallANDflaccid

    @Dewoc19 said...

    im gonna throw a name out here…. Vijay Singh. And let the criticism begin

    My main issue with him is that he is a par machine – until he blows up.
    So the bulk of variance you get it is on the other side of par with little upside, and he doesn’t do too much beyond make cuts.
    His stats can look good on paper, but in terms of DK points, he’s not as great.
    While I would enjoy hitting 18 straight holes of par on these courses, it is fairly useless for DK points.
    I would rather have someone that is a risk of hitting 3 eagles/birds as often as they are 3 bogies, given the point variance that comes with that – vs just steady pars mixed in with crapping the bed.
    I can remember back when he was amazing – but that was a long time ago. I am impressed he does as well as he does – but haven’t ever seemed to make DK points on him.

    Just my take.

  • TommyWantWingy33

    Can’t decide if I wanna do 3 $3 LU’S 9 $1 LU’S or little ggp with some cash games.

  • skeeter1114

    • Blogger of the Month

    @Dewoc19 said...

    how does anybody feel about Sergio Garcia, i know he has a tendency to choke, like a lot but theres no denying his skill and talent

    Love Sergio this week. Great course history, and he will probably be a bit underowned.

    Thoughts on J.B. Holmes at nearly 10k? Great form and course history, but is he too expensive since he isn’t a “household” name?

  • BIF

    @skeeter1114 said...

    Love Sergio this week. Great course history, and he will probably be a bit underowned.

    Thoughts on J.B. Holmes at nearly 10k? Great form and course history, but is he too expensive since he isn’t a “household” name?

    Not sure what you mean as a % by Sergio being “under-owned” but I think he’ll get a fair bit of ownership due to price structure this week (speaking of DK salaries). I’d suspect he’ll see similar ownership to what Jason Day, Bubba and Justin Rose saw last week (somewhere in that 6-9% range). Is that under-owned? Maybe yes, maybe No depends on what you expect I guess. I could see him on the higher end of that range.

    With Spieth and Rory being so high, you can’t really own both so many people will take 1 of Spieth/Rory and then another big name so I expect a fair bit of Adam Scott, Garcia, Holmes, etc being paired with a top guy; additionally I can see many others skipping Spieth/Rory and taking 3 of the next tier top guys. You could take 3 very good guys with an average salary of $10K and grab 3 “ok” players at $6666.

  • qatman

    I think I’ve talked myself out of Kyle Reifers. I hope I have. Right now deciding between Reifers/DJ and Holmes/English. English is a guy I never have that much success with – he seems like he should perform better than he does given his skill set, but at least he does usually make the cut.

    With the reversion to normal strategy (2 round cut, top 70) it’s probably better to go with the more balanced strategy, at least for cash.

  • JimKronlund

    @MGoBlue06 said...

    Where is the best place to look up golf stats other than RG? I am trying to get into doing my own research instead of just reading other people picks and listening to pod casts.

    rotogrinders.com/articles/pga-first-look-northern-trust-open-1168800
    hit the link at the bottom. A perfect interactive spreadsheet you can download. Made by hokie2009

  • awilson45

    Anyone have an opinion about Overton as a punt play? I really like the rest of the guys in my lineup, otherwise I’d upgrade to one of the 7k guys

  • sportsgrinder

    • Blogger of the Month

    @awilson45 said...

    Anyone have an opinion about Overton as a punt play? I really like the rest of the guys in my lineup, otherwise I’d upgrade to one of the 7k guys

    As a punt I don’t hate it. Coming in with three made cuts to start the year, about average in T2G and Putting. ok history at this event.

    I don’t know how much flexibility you have, but I also like Ben Crane and Mark Hubbard as punts in that range.

  • Dewoc19

    How about K.J. Choi, has been in the top 40 the past 5 years, I know he isn’t gonna wow me, but a should play all 4 rounds

  • TommyWantWingy33

    @Dewoc19 said...

    How about K.J. Choi, has been in the top 40 the past 5 years, I know he isn’t gonna wow me, but a should play all 4 rounds

    He is the main specialist in the “searching for a specialist” article (all of last week’s specialists were top 11 or better last week. Doubt this week will be as successful as that success you would think is unsustainable, but it’s still a very good article and I will be using Choi and a few of his other picks. Check it out on the home page.

  • mmccannwin

    charlie beljan at the cheap price of 5900 course history t2nd,15th and 69th. I personally don’t think i can stomach it. But he does have good course history.

  • sportsgrinder

    • Blogger of the Month

    My Aces article is up and ready for your critique!

    https://rotogrinders.com/blog-posts/fantasy-aces-ideas-for-the-northern-trust-open-1169508

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